328i vs Camaro?

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

[6fastback7]

guys if you want a fun weekend...head out to the BMW dealer and take the 335Xi out for a spin...i took my old man out and i couldnt wipe the smile off this face all day...and just before we went out in it we were across the street at the Chevy dealer and took both V6 and V8 camaro for a 30min boot each...i told my dad i bet you 100 bucks that BMW across the street will blow your mind even after we drove the 400Hp Camaro SS....i won the bet...my dad is 68 years old and had many a car in his day and he said he has never experienced a more powerful and responsive automobile in his life. Lucky for us no cops caught us because the sales rep gave us permission to drive it like we stole it! and we did

[cheapthrillz]

guys if you want a fun weekend...head out to the BMW dealer and take the 335Xi out for a spin...i took my old man out and i couldnt wipe the smile off this face all day...and just before we went out in it we were across the street at the Chevy dealer and took both V6 and V8 camaro for a 30min boot each...i told my dad i bet you 100 bucks that BMW across the street will blow your mind even after we drove the 400Hp Camaro SS....i won the bet...my dad is 68 years old and had many a car in his day and he said he has never experienced a more powerful and responsive automobile in his life. Lucky for us no cops caught us because the sales rep gave us permission to drive it like we stole it! and we did

Or for even more fun, come to SC and go to the BMW Proving Grounds for a day of thrashing. I learned a whole new respect for BMW's....

[JEFFTATE]

The old Camaros are great.
BMW's are great.
I just don't think an old Camaro with 425 hp will out handle a 328i.
A heavily modified older Camaro probably can.
But a stock-type suspension probably won't.

You could probably beat him in a straught line , if you had some sticky tires ( like drag radials ),
but if you spin the tires a lot , he may beat you.

[79-TA]

If your figures for hp and weight are accurate, you'll be fine in a straight line, especially from a roll.

For more insurance, get the drag radials you were talking about and take your car to the strip so you can figure out the launch before your friendly competition.


I highly doubt that you're going to square off at a trackday (as in roadcourse) or autocross. If so, there's a lot to address. Nevertheless, you should try such an event out sometime.



And lastly, make sure to bring another friend along as a camera man. A picture's worth a thousand words, and a video even more so.

[BIGX69]

MAN!!! I LOVE THIS FORUMTUFF LUV!!!!!

[79-TA]

ie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unoFG...er_profilepage

That was a 9.0 second 1/8th mile at 80 mph with a very conservative launch (after spinning off the line the race before.) My car weighs no more than 3700 pounds with me in it. Also of note, my car still has 2.73's out back so it was only just getting to 4000 rpm in 2nd gear when it went across the line. Your 3.42's will make a huge difference. How do you know your car's hp and tq ratings? Crate motor? Actual dyno run?


More details on the 328 would be nice. You can always search dragtimes.com to get an idea of what your friend's car would run.

http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes

[76z28]

ie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unoFG...er_profilepage

That was a 9.0 second 1/8th mile at 80 mph with a very conservative launch (after spinning off the line the race before.) My car weighs no more than 3700 pounds with me in it. Also of note, my car still has 2.73's out back so it was only just getting to 4000 rpm in 2nd gear when it went across the line. Your 3.42's will make a huge difference. How do you know your car's hp and tq ratings? Crate motor? Actual dyno run?


More details on the 328 would be nice. You can always search dragtimes.com to get an idea of what your friend's car would run.

http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes

yea i have searched and so far i have found 328s running mid 15s
so i think i have him
i bought the kit that was rated at 420 and instead of the cam that was coming in the kit i ordered the bigger one because it would have been a month before i got it(which will work better with my converter anyway)

[76z28]

HA THIS IS A BMW FAN BOY SITE
I HAVE RACED A 328i in my TRUCK A TUNDRA
and beat it with a full tank of gas and my dad sitting next to me
so DONT TELL ME A 328 will whip my ass because i have seen what they can do
and trust me its not alot
its the base series
even my friend a fan boy of bmw says my camaro will whip it
i came on here more over to see what other bmw fan boy would say
and well they all say the same thing

[79-TA]

its the base series

Yea, that's fine, but WHAT YEAR? Some lightly modded 328's can get pretty far into the 14's and even into the 13's.

And remember, it's all too easy to screw up a drag run. There are plenty of high horsepower cars that would have no problem running 12's but end up in the 14's due to an inexperienced driver. For instance, in the second run I made in my Trans Am, I spun off the line against a Nissan 240. I still blew the little nissan away, but my time was a full half second slower than my previous run (a 9.3 compared to a previous 8.8 in the 1/8th.) For some perspective, my commuter Mustang (if it had more aggressive rear gears) could have beaten my 400+ hp car with its measly 225 hp.



Go to the track, get familiar with the staging procedure (ie, don't be a jerk that double bulbs), and figure out which rpm you can consistently launch at without spinning (of course, it's ok to ride out a little bit of mild spin.) If your car is what you say it is, it has no business losing in any straight line contest against a stock 328. However, in drag racing, the quickest car does not always win. If you sleep at the line or redlight, you've lost. Don't be that guy. Get to the track, practice, learn, and have a good time. Oh yea, and get a video of it for bragging rights.




Lastly, drop the attitude. Just because the people on this site note that the 2nd gen suspension was designed 40 years ago doesn't make them BMW fanboys.

Just curious, what tires are you running on your car?

[Vegas69]

I just had a brand spaking new 328i loaner car for a few days. They are really slow but nimble as all 3 series. Drags...no contest, road course....the Camaro wins if he can drive at all....Autocross....bmw wins.

[Twentyover]

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[Twentyover]

Tell you what, since the OP hasn't posted since the 5th (guess he didn't get the answer he wanted), maybe we should let this thread sink to the bottom?

Maybe he went over to C-C to get heir opinion.....?

[Vicinity]

Holy crap. I got SO lost in this thread after Page 1.

Good info, though. I know what I'm learning about tonight.