328i vs Camaro?

[76z28]

I have a 76 camaro and my friend thinks he will out run it with his stock 328i i mean he thinks he will blow it out of the water because well its made in Germany.
My camaro has about 420-425 horse and 400lbs -tq
weight is 3750 about with me in it
gears are 3.42 with a 3k stall converter



I want some opinions honestly i think i can get him but he thinks he will completely dominate me like he was in a zr1 or something

[Vegas69]

When I was your age, I would have shut him up with my right foot.

[formula]

1) specs on the 328i would help. at least year.

2) if you really want to know....go find out--but ferchrissake do it AT THE TRACK. I'm guessing this is probably your first car, built it by yourself/with your friends/with your dad? Ready to get out there and tear up the streets? I'm only 22, I played that game, and I will tell you right now--don't be an idiot, take it to the track.

-Had a friend have to break his own legs kicking his way out of a 4th gen camaro to get away from the engine that was in the passenger seat after street racing.
-Had a friend have to explain to his dad why his just finished 73 455 trans am that he'd put 30k into was in a ditch after street racing.
-Had to pull my own car out of a field, off of a tree after fooling around on the street.

Don't fool yourself into thinking that we were probably just bad drivers or foolish. I've only been pulled once in my car, and never gotten a ticket. I keep it super-safe 99% of the time--it's that one time that I stopped being responsible that ruined everything. You're blessed to have a sick ass car at a young age. Now do the responsible and safe thing, take it to the track. It's not worth it.

[76z28]

oh no worries i have all intentions of taking it to the strip next year after i am broken in and stuff(and mainly because that will be the next time i can race up there because im going to miss the last one this year...)

[JEFFTATE]

Are you gonna' roadcourse race , autocross , or dragrace ??

The 328i will probably eat your lunch on a roadcourse.
You might get him on a dragstrip though.

DO NOT STREETRACE !!

[76z28]

no i dont think the 328i will eat me on a road course
i weight less plus that is what the car was set up to do so it has the right suspension(thats what my dad did when he was young with this car) but now im setting it up for drag which is what im going to use it for

[modular93fox]

i would bet money on the bmw 3 series would win in an road course. that car was engineered to handle like a raped ape. i have no idea what you have done to your car but i had to take a guess, im sure its off the shelf parts put together in a garage. im not knocking it becuase all of my cars have been that away.. just throwing my vote out there..

[76z28]

lol lemme guess you're a OMG ITS AN IMPORT IT CAN RAPE ANYTHING guy.....
the 3 series doenst handle good unless its an m3 or the 335i... trust me my moms camery handles about as well and it has nothing on it
i have ridden in both hard...

[joejaze]

Road Course - My money is on the BMW.

[68byrd]

I agree with joejaze. I would be willing to say the 3 series would be pretty tough to beat on a road course with a 76 camaro. And the 335i suspension is the same as a 328i suspension.

[cheapthrillz]

lol lemme guess you're a OMG ITS AN IMPORT IT CAN RAPE ANYTHING guy.....
the 3 series doenst handle good unless its an m3 or the 335i... trust me my moms camery handles about as well and it has nothing on it
i have ridden in both hard...

[6fastback7]

i just took 2 BMWs out this weekend...both 3 series both X-drives...the 335 would eat you for lunch without a doubt...and unless you can hook good the 328 will take you too....my money is on the BMW
on the road course with 328 they could disconnect 2 spark plugs and still beat you around the bends....get behind the wheel of a new BMW and then you wont be talking trash about it lol

p.s i dont even like BMW in fact i tried talking my buddy out of buying a 335...then he made me drive it..now i have new found respect for German Engineering

[76z28]

Yep this forum is going to be like I heard lol power makes a difference at the track too I know I can take a 3 unless it's a m3 biased people here obviously.... The car isn't stock the 328 is I love how people are so biased towards german made products.... And so far the rumors I hear are looking true about this site

[76z28]

And at the strip I could barely out run a 335 if I could get traction(I need drag radials and I will) you sound like my friend lol he said that about his integra too

[formula]

Yep this forum is going to be like I heard lol power makes a difference at the track too I know I can take a 3 unless it's a m3 biased people here obviously.... The car isn't stock the 328 is I love how people are so biased towards german made products.... And so far the rumors I hear are looking true about this site

You know what, kid? We're about as hard as can get into american cars. Every guy in here is pushing their car harder and to higher levels than you know about. I'm sure you've heard of rap--which means you've heard of T.I--Well when it comes to taking and old car and making it go, stop, AND turn as hard as it possibly can--whatchu know about that? CAUSE WE KNOW ALL ABOUT THAT.

Did you even take the time to LOOK at the cars around here? There are two groups of guys, really--guys who a) have the money to buy any damn bmw they want, and still rock old school muscle and b) guys who, if they took all the blood, sweat, tears and time they have into their cars into a second job, could easily buy any damn bmw they want with the amount of money they'd make--but instead, they're out in their garages working their asses off to get every extra second out of their american muscle. We bleed motor oil around here. The guys who say a bmw would walk your ass? They probably know because they've raced them. Since you had to come onto a forum to ask, I'm gonna go ahead and bet you probably haven't gone out and raced the 328. Or, realistically, probably much of anything. Me? I spent an entire day beating on the new 3-series at bmw's performance test track. I ripped it around their road course, I ran it on the skidpad, they even set up a test course for us that was part-dry, part-wet, with everything from 100mph straights to slaloms to hairpin turns in the rain, and I can tell you, after BEATING THE S**T OUT OF ONE WITH MY OWN HANDS (you know, instead of just "riding in one" like you) that they are EXTREMELY capable cars, and I have a whole new respect for even the measliest of the 3 series.

So here's the deal. If you want to stay, want to learn, want to find out what we're all about, feel free. If you want to hop on here with your little f***ing attitude and talk s**t about how we're all stuck up foreign car's asses despite nearly every person in here driving a sick ass vintage american muscle car BY CHOICE, then like cheapthrillz said,

We're not here to make you feel good about your car. We're not here to bash non-american cars just because "you got a reel big moter and yer daddy set up a racin' suspension but yer rippin all that out 'cause you like drag racin'". We're here to give you honest opinions about how your car will handle against other performance cars based on our REAL-WORLD EXPERIENCE. You think we're wrong? Get off your ass, go prove us wrong. Put the f*ck up or shut the f*ck up. That is, if daddy'll give you the keys, of course.

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

youll win as long as you have this..

[cheapthrillz]

You know what, kid? We're about as hard as can get into american cars. Every guy in here is pushing their car harder and to higher levels than you know about. I'm sure you've heard of rap--which means you've heard of T.I--Well when it comes to taking and old car and making it go, stop, AND turn as hard as it possibly can--whatchu know about that? CAUSE WE KNOW ALL ABOUT THAT.

Did you even take the time to LOOK at the cars around here? There are two groups of guys, really--guys who a) have the money to buy any damn bmw they want, and still rock old school muscle and b) guys who, if they took all the blood, sweat, tears and time they have into their cars into a second job, could easily buy any damn bmw they want with the amount of money they'd make--but instead, they're out in their garages working their asses off to get every extra second out of their american muscle. We bleed motor oil around here. The guys who say a bmw would walk your ass? They probably know because they've raced them. Since you had to come onto a forum to ask, I'm gonna go ahead and bet you probably haven't gone out and raced the 328. Or, realistically, probably much of anything. Me? I spent an entire day beating on the new 3-series at bmw's performance test track. I ripped it around their road course, I ran it on the skidpad, they even set up a test course for us that was part-dry, part-wet, with everything from 100mph straights to slaloms to hairpin turns in the rain, and I can tell you, after BEATING THE S**T OUT OF ONE WITH MY OWN HANDS (you know, instead of just "riding in one" like you) that they are EXTREMELY capable cars, and I have a whole new respect for even the measliest of the 3 series.

So here's the deal. If you want to stay, want to learn, want to find out what we're all about, feel free. If you want to hop on here with your little f***ing attitude and talk s**t about how we're all stuck up foreign car's asses despite nearly every person in here driving a sick ass vintage american muscle car BY CHOICE, then like cheapthrillz said,

We're not here to make you feel good about your car. We're not here to bash non-american cars just because "you got a reel big moter and yer daddy set up a racin' suspension but yer rippin all that out 'cause you like drag racin'". We're here to give you honest opinions about how your car will handle against other performance cars based on our REAL-WORLD EXPERIENCE. You think we're wrong? Get off your ass, go prove us wrong. Put the f*ck up or shut the f*ck up. That is, if daddy'll give you the keys, of course.

HARSH!!!! Give me the keys to that 328. I'll smoke your ass around that track every time.... HP doesn't make you go faster through turns baby!

[joejaze]

You know what, kid? We're about as hard as can get into american cars. Every guy in here is pushing their car harder and to higher levels than you know about. I'm sure you've heard of rap--which means you've heard of T.I--Well when it comes to taking and old car and making it go, stop, AND turn as hard as it possibly can--whatchu know about that? CAUSE WE KNOW ALL ABOUT THAT.

Did you even take the time to LOOK at the cars around here? There are two groups of guys, really--guys who a) have the money to buy any damn bmw they want, and still rock old school muscle and b) guys who, if they took all the blood, sweat, tears and time they have into their cars into a second job, could easily buy any damn bmw they want with the amount of money they'd make--but instead, they're out in their garages working their asses off to get every extra second out of their american muscle. We bleed motor oil around here. The guys who say a bmw would walk your ass? They probably know because they've raced them. Since you had to come onto a forum to ask, I'm gonna go ahead and bet you probably haven't gone out and raced the 328. Or, realistically, probably much of anything. Me? I spent an entire day beating on the new 3-series at bmw's performance test track. I ripped it around their road course, I ran it on the skidpad, they even set up a test course for us that was part-dry, part-wet, with everything from 100mph straights to slaloms to hairpin turns in the rain, and I can tell you, after BEATING THE S**T OUT OF ONE WITH MY OWN HANDS (you know, instead of just "riding in one" like you) that they are EXTREMELY capable cars, and I have a whole new respect for even the measliest of the 3 series.

So here's the deal. If you want to stay, want to learn, want to find out what we're all about, feel free. If you want to hop on here with your little f***ing attitude and talk s**t about how we're all stuck up foreign car's asses despite nearly every person in here driving a sick ass vintage american muscle car BY CHOICE, then like cheapthrillz said,

We're not here to make you feel good about your car. We're not here to bash non-american cars just because "you got a reel big moter and yer daddy set up a racin' suspension but yer rippin all that out 'cause you like drag racin'". We're here to give you honest opinions about how your car will handle against other performance cars based on our REAL-WORLD EXPERIENCE. You think we're wrong? Get off your ass, go prove us wrong. Put the f*ck up or shut the f*ck up. That is, if daddy'll give you the keys, of course.

Nicely articulated!

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

[6fastback7]

guys if you want a fun weekend...head out to the BMW dealer and take the 335Xi out for a spin...i took my old man out and i couldnt wipe the smile off this face all day...and just before we went out in it we were across the street at the Chevy dealer and took both V6 and V8 camaro for a 30min boot each...i told my dad i bet you 100 bucks that BMW across the street will blow your mind even after we drove the 400Hp Camaro SS....i won the bet...my dad is 68 years old and had many a car in his day and he said he has never experienced a more powerful and responsive automobile in his life. Lucky for us no cops caught us because the sales rep gave us permission to drive it like we stole it! and we did