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    1. #1
      Join Date
      Oct 2004
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      14

      please help,1973 formula

      I have a 73 formula (not real,its an esprit) i bought off the second owner.the car is super solid with only 60k on the odometer.Heres the problem,i have modified the pontiac 350 almost to the max,Solid flat tappet cam 480 lift,edelbrock intake,ported 46 heads,holley 670 avenger carb,150shot nos.The car is a dog.My 69 camaro with 406 sbc,vortec heads and small hydraulic cam will walk all over it.My buddy has a 77 firebird with 455 built pontiac and it will barely keep up with the camaro.Here is the question.Will it kill the value of the car if i put in a 350 chevy with vortec heads?I have a factory roller cam block that i was going to use the gm hot cam and ported 062 vortec heads.I want a build similar to the formula454 car on here except i want to use the small block.Die hard pontiac fans say to build a 455 but the cost is unreal compared to a small block.What kind of power can i get from the vortec heads and hott cam?



    2. #2
      Join Date
      Aug 2004
      Location
      Dunwoody, GA
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      it will only kill the value if you try to sell it. it just depends on who is buying the car really, but its an esprit which isnt desired that much compared to a real formula, so making it better all around could make it more valuable.

      going with an SBC isnt a bad idea, the engines can perform well.

      the whole package matters though, not just the engine. i say somethings not right about your combo. what else do you have trans and rearend wise? a pontiac 350 does not suck. the 400s and up just over shadowed it. you can build a pontiac motor for very cheap and it will perform very well. just remember just because its a V8 doesnt mean you can build it like its a SBC.
      Trey

      "The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese."
      ~ Jon Hammond

      1979 WS6 Trans Am stock LT1/T56 drive train out of my Formula. BMW M-parallel rims. C5/C6 brakes

      build thread https://www.pro-touring.com/showthre...ghlight=begins

    3. #3
      Join Date
      Oct 2004
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      14
      Gear is a 3.73 posi.The best i could do at my local track is mid 9sec range.I startd the mods on the original bottom end then i went .060 over bore and added the mods.The car sounds mean but does not have the ass to back it.I then added nitrous,didnt run at track yet but my buddies 5.0 mustang with 2.73 gear and minor bolt ons will crush me.I was debating on a vortec 350 build with gm hot cam.Any suggestions?I have a pontiac 400 but the cost to build it is huge.Even with hyperucraptic pistons the build would be around $700with out machine work.

    4. #4
      Join Date
      Mar 2003
      Location
      Boringville
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      1,987
      well i wasn't worried about resale value on my car, nothing is original;
      C5 brakes
      cowl hood
      chevy engine
      viper tranny
      recaro/autometer/4th gen interior
      aftermarket wheels
      corvette blue paint
      and the list goes on and on. Do whatever you want, these cars aren't really collectors yet so as of now it doens't really matter. especially on an esprit car. I would build a pontiac 400 or a stroked 455, you already have heads intake, exhaust etc. all you need is a short block which isn't really all that expensive, plus you sitll have the nos hooked up get. Get rid of that 350 and don't waste anymore money on it. I don't see why the 400 is expensive? put a cast crank/rods, forged pistons, bearings rings and gaskets, a better solid flat tappet, and you have the rest. SOunds pretty damn cheap to me.

    5. #5
      Join Date
      Oct 2004
      Posts
      14

      hey YODY

      What is the backspacing on your rear wheels,both sets?I have enkei V1 wheels and love the rear back spacing on your car.I have to get spacer made for mine because they came off 95 firebird.

    6. #6
      Join Date
      Oct 2004
      Posts
      79
      Hi,
      I would go with a stroker 400. The kits are $1800
      All new crank,rods,forged pistons, rings, bearings and balanced,
      With correct cam,intake and heads.
      You will be at close to 475hp and 500ftlbs tq.
      Jeff,
      1974 Formula 400
      1976 Trans Am SR71 Blackbird
      2000 WS6 Trans Am M6

    7. #7
      Join Date
      Oct 2004
      Location
      Illinois
      Posts
      186
      Hey 1bad69-70,

      You might want to check out Performanceyears.com , They have a forum that is dam near unsurpassed for classic pontiac info.

      Im sure they will be able to assist you in at least getting your 350 to run at least 14's in the 1/4 , the street or race section.

      **** .....Rock and Roll Engineering ( I wouldent reccomend them personally) built a 600 HP pontiac 350 that ran 11's in 1st gen f-body.
      A link to some pictures of my Firebirds and other toys

      http://community.webshots.com/user/ponchoman69




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