Project BLUEprint, 1965 Falcon

[NOT A TA]

I put the Kirkey #63 NASCAR style seats in my car and cut the head halo sides back. I think they're pretty comfortable and I use the car daily. They didn't have the #45 available then or I would have gone with those.

[Bryce]

I put the Kirkey #63 NASCAR style seats in my car and cut the head halo sides back. I think they're pretty comfortable and I use the car daily. They didn't have the #45 available then or I would have gone with those.

Thanks for the insight John. I guess I will have to sit in them before I buy them. How is your visibility? Like if you had to turn your head to change lanes? could you see?

[Bryce]

I have 21 big items on my "to do list" in order to complete the rear suspension. I got one more completed this afternoon. HAHA. Good thing RTTC is sold out, I might not even have my car done by then.

[Bryce]

more watts pictures and pictures of the TCI cradle mods. I will also be cutting the shock mounts off.

[Bryce]

Before I order shocks directly from AFCO any dealers have a good price on T2s?

[Bjkadron]

Looking good!

[Flash68]

That looks bad ass. Really enjoying this thread.

[Bryce]

Thanks guys.

[Bryce]

My brain has shifted gears. I started to think about steering again. My current manual box is 22:1, HAHA. I have been thinking about the borgeson integral power box (16:1) with a shelby quick steer pitman and roller idler (~13:1). Then to dial out bumpsteer I would build my own centerlink. Tie rods would be aluminum with aluminum rodends. Anyone run this setup? I would like to stay manual steering but I dont know if I could turn the wheels with the 245s up front. My lightweight front end helps tho.

Maybe I can have Lee rebuild my box with better/modern internals and a quicker ratio.

Anyone know of a aluminum steering box. Flaming river has some, I might investigate that option as well.

I gave up on the idea of a rack for the time being. The cost of a TCP rack is out of the budget. And there is no weight savings.

[csx4766]

I am planning to order Borgeson Box setup this week for my 67 Mustang. Researched this quite a bit and for the money its looks like the way to go. easy to set up, good turning radius, cost savings over the rack systems. I have not heard great things about flaming river, could be just here say. Plan to oder an ididit steering column with the box set up right from Borgeson

[Bryce]

Let me know how that goes. I have heard there were some clearance issues with the frame.

it seams like the best value.

[Bjkadron]

Fast ratio manual steering isn't bad at all once you get going. The only time you need the assist is when you are going really slow. Like parallel parking in a tight spot. I did that yesterday and it was NOT fun. But the feel is great! Loads up perfectly on the corners and such.

[Wesley J]

My experience: I started with a quick ratio rack in my Mustang and it was horendous. I'm a pretty strong guy and I had a really hard time parking. It was actually so bad that you could feel the tortional deflection in the column... Moved to power and life is all good. As you likely know, my car is smilar weight and ran a 245 front tire. I'm moving to a 275 so it'll be even more important.

Its very light steering right now....

[Bryce]

My experience: I started with a quick ratio rack in my Mustang and it was horendous. I'm a pretty strong guy and I had a really hard time parking. It was actually so bad that you could feel the tortional deflection in the column... Moved to power and life is all good. As you likely know, my car is smilar weight and ran a 245 front tire. I'm moving to a 275 so it'll be even more important.

Its very light steering right now....

HAHA, What happened to your car?

[Bryce]

Back to rear suspension:

With my current set up and ride height I can only run a 4" stroke shock with a 12.875 length at ride height. My lower shock mount is as low as possible and I have zero clearance to let the upper mount protrude through the floor. Maybe I need to do a rocker arm set up to get the desired travel. Maybe 4" stroke is enough 2" up and 2" down but stiffer springs will be in order. This is if i go with a matching AFCO shock.

Maybe I should look into another shock company, Varishock or strange.

Well this is my last road block. I have more fabrication but this is the last big part i need.

[carnalsupply]

Hey Bryce,

Might I suggest contacting my buddy Jimmy: with all the various shock and spring packages we use on the sprint cars he's got a REALLY good handle on various manufacturers, etc., and might be able to help you out. In fact, we're a dealer for a variety of different manufacturers and although I can't speak for him I bet he could find you a pretty decent deal.

His screen name is USAC 19 and you can find posts both in my build as well as yours.

[Bryce]

Hey Bryce,

Might I suggest contacting my buddy Jimmy: with all the various shock and spring packages we use on the sprint cars he's got a REALLY good handle on various manufacturers, etc., and might be able to help you out. In fact, we're a dealer for a variety of different manufacturers and although I can't speak for him I bet he could find you a pretty decent deal.

His screen name is USAC 19 and you can find posts both in my build as well as yours.

Thanks Bob, I will probably give him a call early next week. I looked at all the coilover companies in my price range and determine that varishock only has .25" more travel than the afco. So I am still leaning to AFCO. Penske will work on making me any length I might need. I will try to call them and and see what I can get in the 7500 series double adjustable. Its out of my budget, but maybe I can swing it if it works better.

[MichaelUser]

What about QA1.
http://www.qa1.net/qa1_industrial/shock_absorbers.html
Afco is now owned by Speedway motors. FWTW.

[Wesley J]

HAHA, What happened to your car?

Plasma cutter and a weak mind...

[Wesley J]

I went with a set of single adjustable QA1 coil overs. I'm running a 200 lb spring and its fairly stiff. I have no problem adjusting my ride height and have no bottom or top out issues as I'm still running my jounce bumpers to limit travel.

The compression/rebound dampening are supposed to be linked but I've found it to not work well with my setup. When I adjust the shock to provide what I feel is good rebound dampening, the compression is really harsh. I've settled on 3 clicks for the street (rebound is too fast) and 5-6 clicks when autocrossing (compression is f-ing harsh). I'll likely end up moving to a higher end or double adjustable in the future. As you can see I have more to worry about these days.

On a side note, the Bilstein struts ('04 Mustang) are truely fantastic which is surprising considering just how much lighter my front end is when compared to an '04...

Wes