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    1. #1
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      Apr 2001
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      Rockford Illinois
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      It's been a long day and I still don't know what is the problem.

      I had some really good help from Matt(Bow tie 67) and we went over just about everything we could and still can't find what is wrong yet. We have checked wiring , timing the distributor, even tried his laptop to communicate with the ecu and things seems right everywhere and we are getting big spark but 4 cylinders are getting hot and 4 are cold and seem to have no fuel. It seems to be a program problem but what?

      We went over the harness to the dual sync distributor and it did not seem to be right so we switch a couple pins and it seemed to do better. The ignition box has the red light flashing like it should indicating that it isn't the problem.

      The schematic for the harnes doesn't even have the same color wires as the harness but we followed the connections and redid it so it matched the schematic. It did seem to do better but no starting.

      I have an EMIC from Accel coming sometime next week to help and he is bringing a harness that he knows works from a running setup.

      I still wonder about a communication problem between the ecu and the laptops because of the com port errors that always come up. My laptop after a couple of tries will go to the screen and say it is communicating and his would do the same.

      We tried batch fire instead of sequential and still no luck.

      I wish I had the video that Accel has to do the install but I don't. It was my mistake to not demand that they send me one when I was on the phone earlier in the week and it would have been nice if they would have offered to send me one but alas that didn't happen.

      If there ever were instructions that don't make sense Accel can make them.

      So far at least everything still seems to be working and no burned up parts or non working ones just parts the seem to not be setup or timed right.

      At least I am getting to be more familiar with the tools and the order to do routine maintenance the fastest.

      Tommorow will be a day that has progress in a different sorts. I am going to go over all of mechanicals and make sure they are tight and working and then put the sheetmetal on.

      If things fall into place I can still make it to RTTH with the car, if not I am riding shotgun with Matt and will see you all there.

      This is the last time I should see the fenders on the wall and be able to get a pic of the engine from the angle you see them in the pics even if things don't go right with starting.

      If cars have souls maybe this one wants to start up and head out of the garage with no delays. If it all comes together right I could have it start up and then open the door and go for a drive and tune Tuesday or Wednesday.

      This is as much suspence as I can handle and will be almost as relieved to get it going as I have ever been next to hearing my cancer was gone.

      Let us PRAY !!!!!!!!

      Last edited by Jim Nilsen; 10-21-2009 at 07:19 AM.


    2. #2
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      Dec 2005
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      Maryland
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      I've done several harnesses with GM pcm's,I did one and had the same exact issue(one bank had no injector feed). It was a wiring issue,you need to check it with a volt meter.If there is no voltage at the injector(is it missing ground or hot)trace it back,is there any output from the pcm,if not it has to be the pcm or a sensor not telling it to fire(crank trigger,cam sensor in the dist.)

      I'm not familiar with Accels system,if you had the time I'd try to talk you into putting LS1 electronics on there.I ran my Hemi off them and worked great,I think a SBC would be easier to set up,and way more reliable. Ron
      Ron Schwarz

    3. #3
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      Quote Originally Posted by Ron S View Post
      I've done several harnesses with GM pcm's,I did one and had the same exact issue(one bank had no injector feed). It was a wiring issue,you need to check it with a volt meter.If there is no voltage at the injector(is it missing ground or hot)trace it back,is there any output from the pcm,if not it has to be the pcm or a sensor not telling it to fire(crank trigger,cam sensor in the dist.)

      I'm not familiar with Accels system,if you had the time I'd try to talk you into putting LS1 electronics on there.I ran my Hemi off them and worked great,I think a SBC would be easier to set up,and way more reliable. Ron
      Thanks Ron, I will have to try the voltage check. I do know that from one time to another I have had fuel at every cylinder but it has been as random as the spark to each cylinder.

      The sad thing about all of this is that when I have talked to Accel and was asked if I had the video to do the install and I said no they didn't offer to send one and I unfotunately wasn't thinking past my problem and didn't demand it.

      This whole thing is getting very disappointing from the Accel side of things.

      Thanks




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