First GEN F-body BMR Rear Susp.

[68Formula]

Saw it in PHR (all the pieces at least). Anybody know more about it? Pricing? Any tests?

[jfaria78]

I emailed and called. I hope to get an answer, I like the torque arm/watts link idea. My buddy with a 5.0 does real well with his setup.

[OLDFLM]

BMR Fabrication
Torque Arm Conversion Kit (TAC001)
If you are looking for a rear suspension for your 1st Generation Camaro that has superior handling, greater adjustability, and lower installation costs than most aftermarket rear suspensions, you should consider a Torque Arm Conversion Kit from BMR Fabrication. This kit comes complete with a transmission crossmember, adjustable torque arm, Watts Link, double adjustable coilover shocks, shock upper crossmember, lower control arms, and all necessary hardware. This all adds up to a state-of-the-art rear suspension with performance benefits that make the archaic leaf springs obsolete. The long length of the BMR torque arm puts the instant center in the ideal location for a handling application and the Watts Link eliminates side-to-side movement of the rear axle housing and tires. The torque arm front mount uses a delrin-bushed, telescoping slider that allows the torque arm to slide forward and back without binding while also allowing full unrestricted axle articulation. Additionally, the torque arm is equipped for pinion angle adjustability. Watts Links provide the most ideal rear axle housing location, keeping the rear axle centered within the body even if the suspension is fully extended or compressed. The BMR Watts Link has 5 different vertical mounting locations, so it can be adjusted for all ride heights and roll centers. The coilover shocks are double adjustable, so the compression and rebound can be adjusted independently on each side. This truly bolt-in kit can be installed without any fabrication or welding, so the installation costs are much lower compared to other aftermarket rear suspension kits. All parts within the kit come powdercoated in either red or black hammertone. Fits all F-body vehicles from 1967-1969. For complete product details, contact BMR Fabrication, Inc., 12581 N. US Highway 301, Thonotosassa, FL 33592, www.bmrfabrication.com, (813) 986-9302.

[jfaria78]

Just got off the phone with Lee at BMR, he said they submitted the pictures that ar in PHR and Camaro Performers three months ago to coincide with the release. He said in about 2 weeks they should have the whole package on the internet for our viewing pleasure. He said that you will have to have a 12 bolt and pricing is in the range of $2600.00

Sounds pretty sweet, totally bolt on, no welding needed. I didn't ask if there was any options, but I am sure there will be a pretty good selection of sring weights/shock type.


James

[indebt69]

So, what's the word on this rear setup? How's everyone think it will work in a First Gen???

[jfaria78]

Anyone bought one yet?

[David Sloan]

I cant tell you anything about the BMR torque arm but i know for a fact that the Jakes Torque arm work's that is in this car.
http://i39.tinypic.com/sfbfw2.jpg

[XLexusTech]

i cant tell you anything about the bmr torque arm but i know for a fact that the jakes torque arm work's that is in this car.
http://i39.tinypic.com/sfbfw2.jpg

x2 !

[BMR Tech]

Hey guys, just wanted to post an update on the new Torque Arm Suspension for the First Gens. We are just wrapping up a few last minute details and are currently taking orders for July deliveries.

To correct a few unknowns, the kits are available for 10 and 12 bolt housings as well as complete kits with new Strange 9" housings (HD units with 3.25” axle tubes and welded backbrace). The 10 and 12 bolt kits ship complete with AFCO double adjustable shocks for $2595 and the 9" kit with housing for $2995. Neither kit requires any welding or fabrication to install. For more detailed information and install pics, visit our site at http://www.bmrfabrication.com/f1/f1ta.html.

[XLexusTech]

Hey Brett. 1 Quesiton is the lowest point on the Suspension the Arm mount under the Diff?

One of the things that has me concerned about the recent run on TA suspensions is that unlike the factory F body the arm is inder the rear.

[BMR Tech]

Hey Brett. 1 Quesiton is the lowest point on the Suspension the Arm mount under the Diff?

One of the things that has me concerned about the recent run on TA suspensions is that unlike the factory F body the arm is inder the rear.

Yes, the torque arm is mounted under the driveshaft making the lowest point on the suspension the arm mount on the differential. Late model F-bodies (3rd and 4th gen cars) were designed with oversize driveshaft tunnels to accomodate a torque arm and driveshaft unfortunately that is not the case with the first and second gen F-cars. Major floorpan surgery would be necessary to place a torque arm next to the driveshaft and that was just not the direction we wanted to go with this kit. Even if people were willing to cut and weld the floorpan, it would present other problems such as drivers seat crowding and exhaust packaging. The good news is that the lower torque arm mount on the differential does not hang any lower than a typical rear swaybar does. Additionally, their are benefits to placing the torque arm directly under the driveshaft. Doing so provides a more central location in the vehicle (as opposed to an offset torque arm) allowing the torque arm to articulate and pivot from the same location as the driveshaft. It also provides a more balanced "lift point" under acceleration since it is more centrally located instead of being offset.

[holschen]

can you get the 9inch as a complete rear with thirdmember and axles
can you make acrossmember custom fit for a 6l80e trans??
can i order it with airride?

[BMR Tech]

can you get the 9inch as a complete rear with thirdmember and axles
can you make acrossmember custom fit for a 6l80e trans??
can i order it with airride?

Yes, we are a Strange distributor and can ship the rearend complete with axles and third member, if desired. The housings can be made with any housing end so you can run whatever brake setup you wish.

A torque arm crossmember for the 6L80e may be possible but the length of the transmission may actually require a shorter version of the torque arm. We have not done any real time design or testing retrofitting the 6L80e but it is inevitable that the Pro Touring movement will demand this before long so it is definitely being considered. Do you know for sure if the 6L80 will fit in the tunnel without major surgery?

Airride is being discussed as a possible option but it will not be in the near future. Currently the kit is provided with double adjustable Afco shocks. If you are specifically interested in air, we could sell the kit minus the shocks and provide you with the shock dimensions to order the correct air replacements.

[XLexusTech]

does the mounting location work with Mini Tubed first Gen camaros?
I was just looking on the BMR page and noticed the mounting bracket look lie it is right where the frame notch would be,

[BMR Tech]

does the mounting location work with Mini Tubed first Gen camaros?
I was just looking on the BMR page and noticed the mounting bracket look lie it is right where the frame notch would be,

Yes, the mounting bracket goes across the frame notch area. Our main test car has mini-tubs with 20x12" wheels and no frame notch. This isn't an issue on the test car but we have not physically tested compatability with a car that has the frame notched. There are a few options surrounding this potential issue. 1-The frame bracket can be trimmed and welded to the frame rails eliminating the outer mounting bolts and plate that might possibly interfere. 2 - It might be possible to trim the bracket and still retain the bolt-in design by simply bending the outer bracket and running a shorter bolt to compensate for the narrower frame thickness. Regardless, it's not an unsolveable problem.....

[KINGZ28502]

Anybody know of any independent reviews or testing of this system yet? Very interested in the system but I would like to see some real world testing before diving in, maybe a comparison against a DSE rear kit?

[absintheisfun]

Anybody know of any independent reviews or testing of this system yet? Very interested in the system but I would like to see some real world testing before diving in, maybe a comparison against a DSE rear kit?

x2! anything?