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    1. #1
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      Quote Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2 View Post
      The Tank



      The pump/sending unit:
      How about a picture of the bottom of that tank? I still dont see how that short sump area can hold enough fuel in a hard corner. If the sides of the area were tapered in or completely straight maybe but the walls taper outwards. Like someone else said GM is using a venturi can that completely covers the pump and the fuel returns to the can. With the GM setup you may lose 1/4 of the fuel on a hard corner but the tank is almost still completely covered.
      I think that tank may be fine on a weekend warrior but not for track use.



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      Quote Originally Posted by notchbackgta View Post
      How about a picture of the bottom of that tank? I still dont see how that short sump area can hold enough fuel in a hard corner. If the sides of the area were tapered in or completely straight maybe but the walls taper outwards. Like someone else said GM is using a venturi can that completely covers the pump and the fuel returns to the can. With the GM setup you may lose 1/4 of the fuel on a hard corner but the tank is almost still completely covered.
      I think that tank may be fine on a weekend warrior but not for track use.
      The bottom looks no different than any other factory tank.

      The sides of the "sump" (or bucket) are straight up and down. It sould work fine.

      I guess we will find out when I sling it through the cones ;)
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      Quote Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2 View Post
      The bottom looks no different than any other factory tank.

      The sides of the "sump" (or bucket) are straight up and down. It sould work fine.

      I guess we will find out when I sling it through the cones ;)
      So how does the fuel enter the sump?
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      Made for own. $96.00 tank from rock auto, $20.00 fuel level sender, scrap steel plate I had sitting around and a sending unit with pump from 94 LT1 I also had sitting around. Also baffled the tank.

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      Quote Originally Posted by CarlC View Post
      So how does the fuel enter the sump?
      Weep hole in the bottom allows the tank to self level. Once fired, the return fuel is dispensed back in to the well making sure the pump is submerged at all times.
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      Could this be the pump?

      http://store.getgmparts.com/fe0114.html

      Lots of pumps on this site that look like the one in the tank but I would need to see the markings to tell which one this is.

      Might be possible to swich out the pump for a larger GM one? Just thinking...

      http://store.getgmparts.com/fuel-pumps.html
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      Ask Tony Whatley if he ever installed his Racetronix pump. He said he was going to install one of these.
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      I don't see why you couldn't.. I was more curious about the service issue (ie, direct replacement pump) and if there was a cheap GM pump with a higher output.

      The Racetronix pump is nice, I wonder if they would know?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2 View Post
      I don't see why you couldn't.. I was more curious about the service issue (ie, direct replacement pump) and if there was a cheap GM pump with a higher output.

      The Racetronix pump is nice, I wonder if they would know?
      The pump is a GM truck unit, not sure which one.
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      Hey, related question someone just asked on NastyZ, I thought one of you guys might be able to chime in here or there...

      http://www.nastyz28.com/forum/showth...35#post1503535

      Can anyone post up wiring info/diagram for this setup?

      thanks-
      Scott from NJ.

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      A Walboro 255lph should be easily adaptable. But if Spectre says it's a 190lph that would be perfect. No need to heat up the fuel more than necessary.

      Perhaps Spectre would supply a replacement AC Delco number for the pump? Everyone in the AM deals with AC Delco or Federal Mogul P/N's.
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      Quote Originally Posted by CarlC View Post
      A Walboro 255lph should be easily adaptable. But if Spectre says it's a 190lph that would be perfect. No need to heat up the fuel more than necessary.

      Perhaps Spectre would supply a replacement AC Delco number for the pump? Everyone in the AM deals with AC Delco or Federal Mogul P/N's.
      Nope, they won't, I have tried.
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      Quote Originally Posted by MuscleRodz View Post
      Nope, they won't, I have tried.
      What are they suggesting for replacement parts? Are they selling pumps separately?
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      That pump looks like the same one Rick's told me to use when my pump died. Once I got mine out it turned out I had a Walbro pump but apparently Rick's is now using the GM pumps. The pump they told me to use cross referenced to a Delphi FE0114 pump that I picked up at Oreilly's. It was from a 96 1500 pickup with a 305.
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      Quote Originally Posted by dhutton View Post
      That pump looks like the same one Rick's told me to use when my pump died. Once I got mine out it turned out I had a Walbro pump but apparently Rick's is now using the GM pumps. The pump they told me to use cross referenced to a Delphi FE0114 pump that I picked up at Oreilly's. It was from a 96 1500 pickup with a 305.
      Really? I would expect a Ricks tank to have a nicer pump like a Walbro or Bosche.

      This darn pump has numbers on it but I can't identify them. I guess I need to find a place that stocks them and visually compare the numbers on the casing...
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      Quote Originally Posted by BonzoHansen View Post
      What are they suggesting for replacement parts? Are they selling pumps separately?
      Not yet, pumps right now will have to be sourced from your local parts store, or other aftermarket source
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      Quote Originally Posted by CarlC View Post
      A Walboro 255lph should be easily adaptable. But if Spectre says it's a 190lph that would be perfect. No need to heat up the fuel more than necessary.

      Perhaps Spectre would supply a replacement AC Delco number for the pump? Everyone in the AM deals with AC Delco or Federal Mogul P/N's.
      The pump is numbered, there should be some way to figure out which GM pump it is.

      Would be nice to know what's needed for a replacement.
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      Time to make nice-nice with your local AC Delco rep Steve.....
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      Jeff Tate is a GM parts guy, get him in here...
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      Would one of these likely fit on a '67 Camaro with DSE mini-tubs and a G-Bar?

      I'm going EFI.

      I have a GM NOS tank that looks like it will fit with my combo, but then again, I don't have wheels and tires yet, and don't have exhaust pieces to mock up.

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