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    1. #1
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      yeah i was kidding with the land mines and alligators ..i always wanted a castle style house with a moat thou...i do believe its bs that any thief can get anything from a homeowner or the city if hurt in a robbery..

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      I was not allowed to change locks or restrict there access to the property cause if they injured themselves I could be sued, This was the advice by my lawyer who was a property specalist.On the barbed wire thing what the police recomended is thorn bushes.

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      Quote Originally Posted by paul67
      I was not allowed to change locks or restrict there access to the property cause if they injured themselves I could be sued, This was the advice by my lawyer who was a property specalist.On the barbed wire thing what the police recomended is thorn bushes.
      What they might sprain their wrist putting a key in a switched lock?

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      Quote Originally Posted by paul67
      I was not allowed to change locks or restrict there access to the property cause if they injured themselves I could be sued, This was the advice by my lawyer who was a property specalist.On the barbed wire thing what the police recomended is thorn bushes.
      Then I think I would take the dorrs off the frames & take the windows out too.
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      Well maybe he should just take down the barbed wire fence... and put up a 120,000 volt electrical one that looks perfectly safe to climb over. :D

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      Quote Originally Posted by dropit69
      i always wanted a castle style house with a moat thou
      OK, that's funny stuff. Sorry to be so pompous.

      Anyway, it sounds like we aren't talking about the Fox News story any more.

      I don't know British law (or American law for that matter) about tenants and property owners. Some of what you are relating could be a result of laws to try and prosecute slum lords, I'd guess.

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      "Mr Malcolm's plight comes just weeks after Bristol council angered allotment holders by urging them not to lock their sheds in case burglars damaged them breaking in."

      That was the funniest quote of all from the full article.

      It would be interesting here in Aus, most of the properties in the rural / semi rural areas have at least one strand, usually three or four of barbed wire, its a deterrent to the live stock wanting to escape...

      This is just a joke, sorry to say but you Brits are turning this into a fine art, and here we in Australia thought the Americans were the worst when it came to silliness like this, I guess we've been grossly misinformed :D

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      Get rid of the barbed wire and gat some regular old pasture fencing. What?? Yup, and while you're at it get some big ol' hogs (they eat anything-- like "meat") to keep in that "pasture." If someone were to "fall in" the thing, it'd be their own fault, right?
      HAHAHA!!
      Oh yeah, hey Ozzie-boy, ease up. Wasn't it your government that took away a bunch of guns/rifles from your citizens? See, we're not the only ones.

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      Quote Originally Posted by PonchoJohn
      Get rid of the barbed wire and gat some regular old pasture fencing. What?? Yup, and while you're at it get some big ol' hogs (they eat anything-- like "meat") to keep in that "pasture." If someone were to "fall in" the thing, it'd be their own fault, right?
      HAHAHA!!
      Oh yeah, hey Ozzie-boy, ease up. Wasn't it your government that took away a bunch of guns/rifles from your citizens? See, we're not the only ones.
      Touché

      We seem to follow the mother land's lead on most things, well depending on who is sitting in the Prime Ministers Office that is, means it is either Mother England's lead or the US' lead...

      And we don't talk about those dark days of almost fully disarming the population...

      Hmm 'hogs' you say, perhaps some of the wild variety with the big tusks? Although simple pasture fencing won't keep em in

      (but anyways all my comments were in jest, so don't take them seriously please, you know us Aussies, we pick on everybody, especially ourselves, what do you expect from a 'convict nation' )

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      This was in America.
      http://www.tampabay.com/news/humanin...icle847365.ece
      Glad they don't have covenants where I live.

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      No they would make you use trout instead of the sharks.

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      Quote Originally Posted by wedgehead
      No they would make you use trout instead of the sharks.

      TrouTs w/lazers on their heads would still be pretty SicK and EviL!

      Plus if they ZaP each other it would be good eatn'Z!
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      Quote Originally Posted by amx2334
      This was in America.
      http://www.tampabay.com/news/humanin...icle847365.ece
      Glad they don't have covenants where I live.
      Can understand the covenants, but to take someone to court over them? What happened to community spirit, surely people could have helped him to actually re-sow the lawn and mend the sprinklers if they were that worried rather than footing out the cost of re-sodding...

      Is it just me or is the first thing that disappears in these 'gated' communities is common decency and goodwill towards your neighbors?

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      Quote Originally Posted by amx2334
      This was in America.
      http://www.tampabay.com/news/humanin...icle847365.ece
      Glad they don't have covenants where I live.

      That is some BS! I would flame the whole yard then paint thy DirT GreeN!
      What is this SicK wOrld coming to??????????
      Kevin

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      Is it just me or is the first thing that disappears in these 'gated' communities is common decency and goodwill towards your neighbors?
      No doubt some people can be that way, but I think that's a pretty broad brush. Or would you also say that all the Americans who've been out helping others all over the world must be from non-gated communities? Just sayin'.

      It seems to me that Mr. Prudente could have helped himself a whole bunch of ways before he was found in contempt of court. As he said himself: "To me, keeping the house is more important than the grass," said Prudente, a retired registered nurse from New York. "I just ignored them."

      He ignored them, too, after the association filed a complaint in court. He ignored a court order in May, signed by Bray, giving Prudente 30 days to sod the yard.

      Hope he learns his lesson.

      jp
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      Quote Originally Posted by parsonsj
      No doubt some people can be that way, but I think that's a pretty broad brush. Or would you also say that all the Americans who've been out helping others all over the world must be from non-gated communities? Just sayin'.

      It seems to me that Mr. Prudente could have helped himself a whole bunch of ways before he was found in contempt of court. As he said himself: "To me, keeping the house is more important than the grass," said Prudente, a retired registered nurse from New York. "I just ignored them."

      He ignored them, too, after the association filed a complaint in court. He ignored a court order in May, signed by Bray, giving Prudente 30 days to sod the yard.

      Hope he learns his lesson.

      jp
      I was actually talking about those in Australia not the US (can't comment about those as I've never lived in a gated community in the US) so yes perhaps a broader brush than required. And please do not get like that about American's helping others, of course you do like any other decent country in the world, it is what we all do help others in need, just some seem to forget it, and for some funny reason here in Australia it seems to be in the gated communities with special covenants that it starts!

      Perhaps I just need to shut up and stay out of threads like this then as I seem to offend more often than not... Sorry, not my intention at all.

      And don't get me wrong I'm not defending his actions, just concerned about the lead up to the court dramas. I'm sure it mentioned that he replied to them (not the courts, the body corporate or what ever they are called) citing financial difficulties. But ignoring a court order is not a smart thing though I'll agree with you.

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      UPDATE
      Now this is the America that I grew up in.
      http://www.tampabay.com/news/humanin...icle850257.ece

      I agree that ignoring it wasn't the thing to do but to go to jail? The cost of jail time will exceed the sod.

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      Quote Originally Posted by amx2334
      UPDATE
      Now this is the America that I grew up in.
      http://www.tampabay.com/news/humanin...icle850257.ece
      Hell yeah!
      Trey

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      Quote Originally Posted by bwhinnen
      Perhaps I just need to shut up and stay out of threads like this then as I seem to offend more often than not... Sorry, not my intention at all.
      No offense was taken. Really. I just think it is too easy to jump on the bandwagon of "that poor man". Most times reasonable people work out a reasonable compromise in these things. By his own account he ignored the rules that he contracted to follow, and then ignored the various people who were only doing their jobs. He was the unreasonable person in this matter.

      It is a great ending with all the folks who came out to help him and his family. I hope Mr. Prudente doesn't ignore those who helped him.

      jp
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      hah, that headline is kinda bs... it takes the ruling in a different context than they may have actually intended... although in that guys particular experience i can imagine why he'd be upset.

      i know in my neighborhood there is a complete ban on barbed wire fences, bars over windows, and even street lights.

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