Pull up or pull down harness

[Roadrage David]

Thats what we call marketing right!!. what brands did they compeard there,s to ,where they German!! ore from the UK ore italy ore frensh ecetera ecetera. what tests did they do ,did they test them with small raliegh cars ore dtm stile racers ore whatever. ore Nascar and drag racers stile testing.



i cant think of any contignent but europe where there are more types of car raceing , then anywhere els is the world. thats where europe can teatsh the rest of the world a thing oftwo.
look i dont whant this to end up in a pissing contest. i just ask if there are shoulder belts/ harnasas that are long enoughf for what i need.
and i never claimd that i whent for looks first did i . no hard feelings just speaking out loud

[Damn True]

It's not marketing pal. It's Simpson Racing. It's well over 50 years of experience in building race car safety equipment. You'll find similar information provided by every reputable harness manufacturer and you'll find similar information in any prep book worth the paper it's written on. Most notably those from Carroll Smith.

You've been advised. You've been shown engineering data that supports it.

It's your neck (and/or basal skull fracture) do with it what you may.

[Roadrage David]

Damn true tank you fo your consirn, , But it is marketing!!!!! because its big bisenis. there are many ways to Rome, as there are many safety aspects from companys who claim there way is the best. all im looking for AGAIN is a safty harnas that has a 1 ore 2 feet longer shoulder straps. and ore a option to custom lenghten them.

[Damn True]

Horse to water.

[TitoJones]

David-

I agree with Simpson, G-Force, Sparco etc. You do not want to mount your belts that far back at that angle. Serious injury will occur in an accident. You'd be better off not using your harnesses if you got into a wreck if you decide to mount them back there; maybe the impact and lack of harness will allow you to be thrown clear of the wreckage.

Tyler

[Damn True]

Willians, Impact, The rulebooks of NASA, SCCA, FIA, CART and The US Air Force Aero-Med labs etc......

[gt1guy]

all im looking for AGAIN is a safty harnas that has a 1 ore 2 feet longer shoulder straps. and ore a option to custom lenghten them.

David,

Nobody makes them that way anymore. There was a time that they did, but that time has passed. Your going to be hard pressed to find some manufacture willing to custom make a set like you want. In fact there's no way they will. Not in the US and not overseas.

Kevin

[Roadrage David]

Found two euro raliegh companys who will make them no prob. one of them makes the harnas for Ferrarri.

[LS6 Tommy]

Since I'm in the market for harnesses for my Chevelle, I'm going to jump in this thread...

Like many of you, my car will be street driven often. While searching the web for different companies, I found these belts that are street legal according to the product text:
http://www.schrothracing.com/product...m/profi-II-asm

Any opinions?

Before I start, please don't view my following statements as any form of insult or slight to Schroth. They make a very good product.

IIRC, that model & all the Schroth Competition harnesses are not DOT approved and are not street legal in the USA. I may be wrong, but I think the "street legal" statement is for the UK/European market. The ones that are DOT approved for the US domestic market are the Rally series & possibly some other Schroth non-competition models.

Be advised that even though some of those models are indeed DOT approved, just because a product has a DOT approval doesn't prove it's legality for on-highway use. The DOT does not determine legality, just that that the product meets their standards. All it means is that the DOT has tested it & found it's "safe" to install in your vehicle-i.e. it won't cause an unsafe condition or damage to your car or other's property.

In many states only factory installed or approved replacement stock style seatbelts are legal. Most of the time you'll fail inspection just for having a harness if the stock belts are not present & they won't even look at any paperwork you may have showing the harness is DOT approved.

Tommy

[64Chevelle]

Found two euro raliegh companys who will make them no prob. one of them makes the harnas for Ferrarri.

Can you please give me contact information?

Extremely interesting thread since I have pretty much the same idea for the placement of my harness. The only difference is that the mounting point will be somewhat lower, immediately above the top of the rear backrest. The angle will then be between the recommended 0 and 15 degrees below shoulder harness seat holes.

My car didn't have any factory seat belts and still don't have it to this day... It's a death trap even in 30 mph.

My plan was to weld a good size tube across the car right behind the top of the rear seat and reinforce the welded ends. Then mount the shoulder straps to that tube and through the seat holes.

The idea was to have some easy and rear seat passenger friendly harness where I could choose to use just lapbelts for the front harness or full 4/5 point harness when going to the track or driving at higher speeds. For the rear seats I would just mount some lapbelts between the rear seat and backrest.

So, the big question is, what is the best option?
1. No seat belts like today? Not likely
2. Only lapbelts all around the car?
3. Full harness with shoulder straps mounted above the rear backrest.

I might add that being 6'7" I might end up mounting my seat a little further back than the stock location and will always have it in the most rearward position.

[JEFFTATE]

Thanks True !!