Another Gun Thread: Question Inside

[Young Gun]

So within the past few weeks there have been a number of break-ins around the neighborhood. Only cars really but none the less it is not very comforting. I am heading off to college in a few weeks, and my brother returns to school before me. My dad also travels around the world for most of the week, and that leaves my mom with my little brother at home. What it comes to is that we want to get my Mom a handgun. Hopefully she will never need to use it, but it would make my brother, Dad, and myself worry less about her being all alone. My question is, what type of handgun would you recommend? Do any of your wives/ girl friends have a handgun? My mom is a pretty small woman, she is about 5'5", 5'6" (okay well that's small compared to my brother 6'4" and myself 6'3" 210lbs). I was thinking of something like the Kel-Tec P3AT, never shot one myself but with a 5lb trigger its pretty light, I will shoot one before, as will my mom obviously, but does anybody think it is worth the time to shoot?

Thanks for any input you may have. I really do appreciate it!

Colin

[cheapthrillz]

i've heard that the muzzle flip on the p3-at is very harsh.... are you looking for something to keep in the car or in the house?

If house is the answer, then a shotgun is your best bet... Don't have to worry about aiming, and if an intruder even hears the rack of a shotgun, they will turn the other direction.

I would go to Wal-mart and buy a mossberg 20ga pump... you'll pay less than a ****ty kel-tec (about $100 less) and be much more effective...

Anybody you ask will tell you that a shotgun is the ultimate in home defense...

If you are dead set on a small handgun, then you will have to pay some big money to get a gun that wont stovepipe or hang up, because most people don't know how to react in that situation...

[megaladon6]

i second the shotgun for home defense. a handgun is more a personal defense weapon, and it takes a lot more knowledge/training/technique to use it correctly. plus a shotgun is a hell of a lot scarier which will help keep your mom from actually having to use it.

[MrQuick]

Shotgun here. Can't beat the price for a Mossberg. Plus you can get bean bag shells in your state. At least I think you can.

But with mom weilding it? Maybe the KT isn't bad at all. 3" 12ga shells + 5'5" mom + kick = potential holes in ceiling.

[muthstryker]

Hey colin, Nothing beats the sound of a shot gun rackin...remington 870/winchester 1700 home defender.



But I like my AR15, shorter then most homedefender shot guns i can move through the house much faster..

[edog1]

I vote for a short barreled shotgun with a flash light attached for home defense. You can use a light loads to reduce chance of shooting through walls. More importantly whatever firearm you choose have everyone become proficient with the firearm.

[muthstryker]

If your looking for a small hand gun, check out the springfield XDs in sub-compacts i belive they have a .40 s&w as well as the 9mm. i have one and love mine, recoil is nothing. the gun just feels natural..

[muthstryker]

ooo edog, plus a shot gun with a light with blind an intrudder since they more then likely will be coming in at night.. surefire makes a bad shot gun light.

[Young Gun]

Shotgun here. Can't beat the price for a Mossberg. Plus you can get bean bag shells in your state. At least I think you can.

But with mom weilding it? Maybe the KT isn't bad at all. 3" 12ga shells + 5'5" mom + kick = potential holes in ceiling.

We have shotguns, for hunting but she does not really like the idea, mostly cause a 12 ga is a bit more kick than she is looking for. Granted my mom used to be one hell of a shot with a rifle, made me look like a punk! But she hasnt gone shooting in a while. The pistol is something she can have on the nightstand or in the drawer that she can grab quickly, she doesnt like the idea of the shotgun simply leaning against the bed. thanks for the imput so far though guys!

[Young Gun]

Hey colin, Nothing beats the sound of a shot gun rackin...remington 870/winchester 1700 home defender.



But I like my AR15, shorter then most homedefender shot guns i can move through the house much faster..

hahaha i showed her that shotgun earlier...i was trying to convince her to consider it...I wouldnt mind getting my hands on one myself...I am gonna try and hit up the range soon and get a feel for some hand guns...I normally just shoot rifles and shotguns, never shot too many pistols so I am really just learning about them and walking in the dark!

[muthstryker]

colin, go big or go home. get a benilli M4 you wont regret it

[Young Gun]

colin, go big or go home. get a benilli M4 you wont regret it

I was just on impactguns.com looking at those hahah, I dig the remington 870 though, nickle plated marine ones look nice...wouldnt mind one of those in the closet haha, the shotguns are too big for my mom though... i may take her out this weekend and go shoot some to see what she likes

[MrQuick]

yeah, I guess I can't see a little woman holding a shotgun either....well there are exceptions....

what?!? at least she's in a bikini???

[muthstryker]

thank you vince made my night :D

[MrQuick]

LOL, no problem..but right click and save cause it will go bye bye soon.


Colin, get your mom one of these... http://youtube.com/watch?v=B2DlWzJm8DY&feature=related so tempting.

[ZoomieFoosh]

(double Post)

[ZoomieFoosh]

Honestly, I'd still try and convince your mom to go with a shotgun for several reasons.
First, when she's scared, since somone is in her house, she'll be jittery. She's not going to shoot well with a pistol being jittery. The shotgun prettymuch forces her to use both hands to keep it steady. Also with the shot pattern, she can get the general direction of the intruder correct and still get a good shot in, pistol requires you to be much more accurate
Second, when you shoot, you shoot to kill. You don't shoot to warn, maime, injure or any of that. If there is a need to employ a firearm is it because of the threat to your own life. Plus, dead people can't testify against you for shooting them in your house. A shotgun with Double-0 buckshot does a pretty good job of that. Don't buy the rubber shot, or bean bags, or any of that gimmick stuff. (A .45 does a good job of this too, but see argument #1)
Last, as was said before, anyone and everyone knows the sounds of a shotgun racking. If that doesn't mean business I don't know what does. Get a light too and if possible a laser. The light helps the shooter not only because you can now see in a dark house, but also that the intruder cannot see what is on the other end of the light. The laser also lets the intruder know right where the Double-0 is headed. Both aid in eliminating the "tough guy" syndrome of the intruder but not letting them know who is weilding the weapon (thinking that they could overpower your mom vs. overpower you) and informing them right where a shot will be placed...removes the guess work from them.
As for me, I have both a .45 and an 870...pick your poison. There is a reason why everyone from the USMC to your city's SWAT team uses shotguns for breaching and clearing.
Hope that helps some.

[ProdigyCustoms]

Michael got a Ruger LCP tonight. Seems to be the newest hottest carry gun out there. Hard little Sucker to find I tell ya. There is a 3 day waiting period in Florida for hand guns, so he has not shot it yet, but the salesmen said it has a nasty little kick. Lisa was looking too. He recomended the Kel-Tec 32 for a female. I looked at it, the Ruger looks a lot nicer, but the 32 looked like a good gun also and has good reviews.

Both are identical in size, the Kel Tec is possably a 1/8" thinner, 2 3/4 barrels, either drop in the pocket or purse just fine.


Ruger LCP


Kel-Tec 32

[Restomod]

That lil 380 is cool!! I wish Glock would sell their 380 here! She would way better off with a small pistol like these than a shot gun....

[69Pony]

My backup weapon to my H&K .45 is a Browning .380. A great little gun that still holds 13+1. Though a lot less muzzle flip, the .380 does hurt the hand a bit. Not as much frame to absorb the pounding. I upped the spring rate to 105% and have never stovepiped. For those looking for a great service weapon - you can not beat the H&K USP .45

I also have a M4 - nasty beast.... Scary just to look at but don't get the faux folding stock model - gay IMO....