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    Thread: Flooding?

    1. #21
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      I have to agree with MrQuick and Young Gun to a big extent. Even the large swath of Cedar Rapids that went in the water is minor compared to the devastation in New Orleans, in acres, depth, and sudden onset. The flooding here is very localized. My home was never in danger, my office is currently getting flood-damaged drywall replaced. We sandbagged Wednesday of Flood Week thinking the water was going to be about 6" short of the 1993 high water record on Sunday. It was just outside the door in '93. Instead it went 1 1/2' higher at our location on Friday. By Thursday morning it was already at the base of the sandbags. We rushed in to get the computers and critical files, improvised an office at a sister company, and kept our business running the entire time, by cell phones in a building with bad reception until our land lines were set up on Friday afternoon. I couldn't be more proud of my employees and what they accomplished. But again, the nearest location safe from loss of life wasn't miles away through 100mph+ winds. I'll take what we got over what they did any day.



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      To all and this forum for being able to discuss a delicate topic in a
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      For the record, there was nothing "sudden" about Katrina. Even the largest hurricanes move at less than 40mph. Louisiana had no less than 5 days to prepare. The same hurricane hit Mississippi and not long after one of nearly equal size hit Texas. Certainly there was devastation in all three places as there has been throughout the midwest as a result of the flooding. But the salient point is the difference in the behavior of the people of the citizenry and of the populace in those places.

      Don't get me wrong, I love New Orleans. It's one of my favorite places in the US. But one thing I like to point out to people is the difference in how public servants react. In other cities the cops and firefighters run toward trouble. In N.O.......
      Last edited by Damn True; 07-02-2008 at 07:16 AM.
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    4. #24
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      Iowa flood pictures

      Here are some local flooded area pictures. Gotta say not lovin the rain. At least I didn't have any problems.

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    5. #25
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      Mississippi is the better comparison to New Orleans After Katrina. Two different outcomes. I was working in New Orleans when Victor came by a year before Katrina. I took the locals advice and got myself and the crew out way before the madness started. It still took me 10 hours to get back to Houston. Houston stepped up to the plate big time for Katrina victims and a lot of them were good people but too many of them spit in our face. It will be difficult for many of us to extend that helping hand again. Iowans are welcome!

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      Wow, big response for a "joke"........Oh wait, it wasn't a joke!
      Anyway, the point is that the government tit is NOT a help to society. N.O. is almost a community that ends with ......ism. The govt should help out, but should not be expected to be the savior for everyone.
      ....IMO....
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    7. #27
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      Quote Originally Posted by shmoov69
      Wow, big response for a "joke"........Oh wait, it wasn't a joke!
      Anyway, the point is that the government tit is NOT a help to society. N.O. is almost a community that ends with ......ism. The govt should help out, but should not be expected to be the savior for everyone.
      ....IMO....
      wait it wasn't a joke?? LOL damn you Jimmy.


      But the thing is they are for everyone eles.

      Here's a hypethetical situation:
      If I am caught in an emergency situation and im ordered to evacuate, told to go to a certain area assigned as a disaster shelter for assistance and shelter then after I follow orders then im left behind. Not given food or water or safe shelter for 2 weeks.
      So,I try to leave. I can't leave cause the area im trying to navigate is either damaged, congested or impassable.
      God forbid if I was injured or ederly but I think its safe to say I would be a little pissed off and angry at the people in charge.

      Don't get me wrong I would have left weeks before.

      This has been going without fights cause we are all adults and True hasn't seen this yet....till today. LOL j/k

      Like I said before we and the government has learned its lesson and I don't think something like this will happen again.
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      The govt did definately screw up, no doubt about it. The main issue (IMO) is the "class" of people involved. And I am not talking color or social status or even financial status, I am talking about class, pride, self reliance etc. It seems that when no class people have something wrong with them, it is somebody elses fault and is someone elses responsiblity to help them. I tend to not agree. There are definately exceptions to the rule, and legit exceptions at that. But waaaay too many looking for someone else to take care of them.
      I have the "if you don't work, you don't eat mentality". Which is pretty harsh sometimes. But, everyone does need a second chance and help at sometime or another, I just think it needs to stop sometime.
      But, we all have different opinions, and mine stinks just as much as the other! LOL!
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    9. #29
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      Something to think about.... we built the Hoover Dam, but when it comes to having sound levies they leak and burst. The national guard is nice, but you'd think something on a grander scale could be mobilized to save a small town. Probably not though - just another reason to redraw NFIP maps. Of course they only way FEMA is there to manage an emergency is to instill martial law and keep owners from their property.

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