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    1. #1
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      II Much cold start: an update

      Recently I put one of Norris' catch cans on the car and went back to the factory PCV. (my car was sucking big quantities of oil out of the crankcase with the racing PCV setup). One lesson there.

      I also replaced all my Russell hose with hardline and Earl's hose. Another lesson there.



      I also removed the stereo as I'm working on packaging A/C. A third lesson there.

      Anyway, with those changes, and with no change at all to the EFI tune, the car starts way better. 2 seconds max. It fires with a burst, then quickly drops to a fast idle, then a normal idle as the engine warms up. It's perfect.

      Theories:
      1. The stereo was causing a big voltage drop, causing the XFI to reset.
      2. My plugs were coated in oil, and kept the engine from firing easily.
      3. My car likes playing jokes on me.
      4. I'm going insane.

      jp
      ​John Parsons

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    2. #2
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      Glad to hear you're getting it sorted out.

      My only ongoing "problem" is that sometimes the RPMs drop too low. For example, if I'm creeping in traffic. I give it gas and the RPM go up and when let off the gas they pendulum low (like 640) and the car stalls. It's not all the time but enough to be annoying when it does happen.

      And yes, our cars love to play jokes on us. lol

      I was thinking of AC, but I just can't get myself to clutter up my engine bay.

      Oh yea John... where are the damn pictures!
      "A ship in port is safe, but that's not what ships are built for."

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    3. #3
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      Ha! I think it is 3 + 4!
      My engine recently starting missing on light acceleration, I was ready to blame it on something associated with the XFI. Long story short... one bad plug wire.
      I now developed a crackle in my left rear speaker last evening... I'm still trying to blame it on the XFI
      Tg

    4. #4
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      John, I thought you were selling II Much?
      JEFF SHORTT
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      Quote Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2
      Oh yea John... where are the damn pictures!
      My thoughts exactly!!

      But otherwise thanks for another fine write up John.

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      Good article John.

      We ( Days Chevrolet ) have been selling a fixed orifice type PCV
      "Valve " ( Its really more like a fitting )to help cut down on the oil consumption of the factory LS Engines .

      GM Part # 12572717

      Like I said , it's more of a fixed orifice fitting instead of a valve.
      It has a very small ( approximately 1/16th inch ) metered hole in it.
      Jeff Tate
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    7. #7
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      Pictures

      Some photos...




      ​John Parsons

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      I tried the fixed orifice on my genI, made no difference(?)

      John, are you catching much oil in the catch can? I have one coming
      69 Camaro convertible, 410, M22, 8-pt cage therapy program. SOLD.
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    9. #9
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      Anyone know the correct way to use a pcv and catch can on a boosted engine?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Rick Dorion
      I tried the fixed orifice on my genI, made no difference(?)

      John, are you catching much oil in the catch can? I have one coming

      Yeah , It doesn't always work.
      Jeff Tate
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      Rick,

      I get a splash of oil in the catch can. A drop or so per trip. At this rate, I may never have to drain it!

      jp
      ​John Parsons

      UnRivaled Rides -- Modern upgrades for your ride.

      UnRivaled Rides recent project -- LS9-powered 69 Camaro

    12. #12
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      Hmm. I thought you'd catch more based on your earlier problem. Guess the OEM pcv helped alot!
      69 Camaro convertible, 410, M22, 8-pt cage therapy program. SOLD.
      68 camaro - SOLD
      67 Bel Air - New street project with perfect floors, frame and trunk!

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      Yeah there's a real difference in how much air/oil can flow through them based on my "suck the pcv test" (I can't recommend anyone try that at home).

      The cool part about all of this is it is that I have filtered air flowing through the crankcase now. Just like factory.

      jp
      ​John Parsons

      UnRivaled Rides -- Modern upgrades for your ride.

      UnRivaled Rides recent project -- LS9-powered 69 Camaro

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      John,

      I really like the bulkhead going from the hardline to the softline going to the fuel rail. Is that your piece or is that a purchased part? That is an elegant solution for that interface.

      Thanks,

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      Shaun,

      John made it out of 2x2x1/8 aluminum angle.
      Vic

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      Quote Originally Posted by Shaun
      I really like the bulkhead going from the hardline to the softline going to the fuel rail. Is that your piece or is that a purchased part? That is an elegant solution for that interface.
      Thanks! Vic is right. (He had asked me about it earlier). I made it with a bandsaw and belt sander. I usually send my aluminum parts out for anodizing, but I was too impatient to wait for it this time. It's bolted to the firewall with 3 1/4" bolts and nut-serts.

      jp
      Last edited by parsonsj; 06-30-2008 at 01:13 PM.
      ​John Parsons

      UnRivaled Rides -- Modern upgrades for your ride.

      UnRivaled Rides recent project -- LS9-powered 69 Camaro

    17. #17
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      It was the oil on the spark plugs. My bike runs slightly rich and by the time the plugs need changing it requires some throttle on initial start up. With new clean plugs, the bike fires of instantly and idles perfect from the start.

      Glad to hear the car is running even better, John. As always, the work looks great. I like the hard lining much better,
      Trey

      "The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese."
      ~ Jon Hammond

      1979 WS6 Trans Am stock LT1/T56 drive train out of my Formula. BMW M-parallel rims. C5/C6 brakes

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