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    1. #1
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      Self Balancing Wheel Weights ?

      Has, or is, anyone running self balancing wheel weights?

      I have plans on running them on my LTD, The wheels I have are 20's all the way around with 245/35s.

      I have found these, www.innovativebalancing.com , but would like to hear from others that might have some experience with them, and that know more than I.



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      Sounds like a cure-all hair tonic

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      Guys on a motorcycle site that I frequent swear by them.
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      Based on the info I've read, they're used by the big rig industry to substantially increase tire life.
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      I'd be interested to see if they actually work
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      I'm also curious - whos gonna be the first to try and report back??
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      I am intrigued. Is this a real thing? Why have we not heard about this before?

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      I've forwarded this to an engineer buddy of mine in the truck industry... you'd think the beads would all collect at the most out of balance point and stay there... hmm...
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      I have heard of this too, I think they have been around for a while... dont know if they work though
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      Sounds hokey to me.
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      Quote Originally Posted by insane1
      Has, or is, anyone running self balancing wheel weights?

      I have plans on running them on my LTD, The wheels I have are 20's all the way around with 245/35s.

      I have found these, www.innovativebalancing.com , but would like to hear from others that might have some experience with them, and that know more than I.
      Taken from their site:

      Is there any situations where Dyna Beads are not recommended?

      We do not recommend Dyna Beads in these situations:

      ...in any (motorcycles excluded) low-profile performance tire except as a Maintenance Level application. A low-profile tire is generally defined by an aspect ratio below 70, such as "225/60 R15". See our Low Profile Policy.
      This only applies to cars, SUV's & pickups.



      More from their site:

      Why don't you have a chart for regular passenger cars?
      We don't market to cars and SUV's due to the high performance style of those tires, which are low and wide. These types of tires commonly exhibit varying degrees of lateral imbalance due primarily to the width. This type of inbalance can only be corrected with carefully placed wheel weights. So that means that while Dyna Beads should not be used as the sole balancing method for these tire types, they can be used as a supplemental method designed to smooth out the ride and provide little or no future rebalancing.
      That being said, we have a lot of dedicated Corvette, Hot Rod, Porshe, BMW and Mercedes customers using them with noticable improvement in combination with existing weights.
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      They worked on my Blazer when I had 38" Super Swamper TSL's. Nothing else worked. I even tried the powdered beads that go inside the tire - what a joke. When I had them balanced for the last time one of the tires needed 36 oz's of weights put on it. I had enough at that point; if you've ever had bias-ply Swampers you know they only stay balanced for a few hundred miles. I broke down and spent the money on "self" balancers. Never had to balance those tire again. When I wore them out I switched to Michelin XL's 12.5r20 on double beadlock wheels(about 41" tall and 12.5" wide). Total weight for 1 wheel/tire combo was 225 lbs. Even with the additional weight of this combo the same balancers still worked. Some of this is due to the Michelin's much better manufacturing I think(even without the balancers and no wheel weights I could go down the highway at 75 with only minimal vibrations).

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      Thanks for the resonses, Selfbalancing has been around for a long time in the trucking industry as someone else said, and I know that there are diffrent manufatures than just the one I listed.

      The last couple of years at SEMA there were a few people there that sell them, but everyone I spoke to gave me the same; "well we'er not sure" when I asked about low-pros.

      I have done alot of big wheels in the past 15 years (started doing 20's in 98) and currently do alot of Ford, and Chevy duallys on 22's, and I have always had a hatered for stick on weights, they look like ass, and they will fall off - and I dont give a damn who puts them on. I'd rather run beat-on weights.

      So I want to go this route with the selfbalancing. I will be doing it there is no other way about it, but I thought I would get some input if anyone else has tried them.

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      For the sake of discussion, if a wheel/tire needed 1 oz to balance and you put whatever they recommend into the tire, how's it going to balance out?
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      I seriously doubt this product could ever match a good static and dynamic balance from a good balancer machine. As long as you aren't smacking curbs on a regular basis and keep road grime off your wheels just balance them once and you shouldn't have to worry about them again for a long time

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      A long time ago, a liquid tire balancer was offered that got mixed reviews - same principal.
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    17. #17
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      I talked to a friend today that was having major problems getting his tires on a jeep balanced a few years ago. They were huge Mickey Thompson's. His jeep was originally made to run the beaches on Long Island. One of them was so out of balance it knocked a balancing machine over! He ended up going to a semi shop where they could balance them while they were on the vehicle. He said the jeep rode straight, smooth and true afterwards. Might be worth a shot.

      Matt




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