70 GTO.....part 2

[SDMAN]

Its been a very long time since I posted anything here. Started my own business, and havent had much time. I mostly completed the car and put some miles on it. But, after a while, I decided to take the next step. I wanted to do it before I put any effort into body/paint. Or maybe, given my past experiences with body/paint shops, I decided to keep doing the fun stuff for a while longer and postpone the inevitable pain and suffering. So I sold the modded frame, suspension, drivetrain, brakes, wheels, tires, exhaust, etc. What remains is perched on the lift. Waiting.
I should have the A/M Max-G frame in a month or so. Those guys were really helpful and very thorough. Never gone this far before (custom frame). Been bringing lots of parts home over the last 2 years. Lots. Motor is at the machine shop. Should have it by years end (dont need it prior to that). The M/W modular 9" is here. Currently working on the clutch/trans combo (T-56). Just need to order it at this point. We need the entire drivetrain and a block installed on the frame. The floor needs to come out of the car, body gets positioned and mounted over the frame (its gonna be real low...bottom of frame rails to road surface are 5" F & 6" rear). Then we put a new floor/tunnel back in (after tubbing the rear wheelwells), leaving room for the new positions of the trans/driveshaft/exhaust system. Big job. Will be posting pics, but I dont expect to have anything for at least a month.

[SDMAN]

Well, I do have this pic. Early mock up of the front of the motor.

[Roger Poirier]

Very cool project.... Custom frame. Wow your into big bucks.

My GTO pro-touring is a street car. It's what I call old school / new school. All parts are store bought. That was the extent of my engineering abilitys. Anyways today it's how far to you want ot go. Once you have modern suspension on these old boats there is no going back. I love the current ride.

You forgot to mention what your spec's are for the car. More detials please....

Thanks,

R.P.

[Jims78elky]

Yeah..I remember that project,do you have any pictures of
how it came out finished? I remember it had some wide tires
on the rear,and a really cool looking dash/gauge package.

If its the same car that Iam thinking about...

Glad to see you back! Please post some more pictures and
info when you can.Looks great so far,keep up the nice work.


-Jim

[Jims78elky]

My GTO pro-touring is a street car. It's what I call old school / new school. All parts are store bought. That was the extent of my engineering abilitys. Anyways today it's how far to you want ot go. Once you have modern suspension on these old boats there is no going back. I love the current ride.

Roger,

Your GTO is so bitchin..Wow you nailed the stance on that
bad boy! Its not that easy to get black paint to look good.

Your GTO is just plain awesome!




-Jim

[ProTouring442]

Roger,

Your GTO is so bitchin..Wow you nailed the stance on that
bad boy! Its not that easy to get black paint to look good.

Your GTO is just plain awesome!




-Jim

Yeah it is! Only thing I would have done differently is... erm... eh... well, I would have... eh... you know, I would have... erm...

Ok, damn it! I wouldn't change a thing, it rocks!

Shiny Side Up!
Bill

[ProTouring442]

...So I sold the modded frame, suspension, drivetrain, brakes, wheels, tires, exhaust, etc. What remains is perched on the lift. Waiting. I should have the A/M Max-G frame in a month or so... ...Big job. Will be posting pics, but I dont expect to have anything for at least a month.

You better post some pics, it sounds incredible! I'm definitely looking forward to seeing this one come together!

Shiny Side Up!
Bill

[PonchoJohn]

I saw your handle, and then the pic. I thought, "if this thing has an F$%kin BBC I'm gonna puke!" Nice motor Tom!

[SDMAN]

Roger...Very nice looking 69. Ill put some more specifics in this reply.

Jims78elky....you remember well. We fabbed a custom dash (Im still using it) and did a mini-tub for a set of first gen Viper rear tires (345/35X18's).

PT442...Ive been working and planning for 2 years. In another month, plasma cutters, TIG welders and a ton of parts come together.

PonchoJohn...Ive always been a Pontiac purist. No BBC's for me.

Some more specifics;
C-5 front suspension, 15:1 (2.5 turns lock to lock) power rack & pinion, Strange double adjustable shocks all 4 corners, 550# front and 250# rear springs (to start with), Tri-4 bar rear suspension, Mark Williams modular 9" rearend, Wilwood 14" disc brakes all 4 corners, 6 piston F & 4 piston R ,Budnil billet, G-Force custom T-56, McLeod dual disc.
The motor is 542 (4.380"X4.500") inches. Its based on an LSM CNC lightened IA-2 cylinder block, SCAT forged crank, Oliver billet rods, solid roller, Procharger F-1C, intercooler, FAST EFI, etc.

The big inch, low compression (9.2:1) and moderate boost (~12#) combo should make for a good street package.

[ponchopwr70]

Sounds like a sick car! Post pics of your progress when you can.

[Roger Poirier]

Roger...Very nice looking 69. Ill put some more specifics in this reply.

Jims78elky....you remember well. We fabbed a custom dash (Im still using it) and did a mini-tub for a set of first gen Viper rear tires (345/35X18's).

PT442...Ive been working and planning for 2 years. In another month, plasma cutters, TIG welders and a ton of parts come together.

PonchoJohn...Ive always been a Pontiac purist. No BBC's for me.

Some more specifics;
C-5 front suspension, 15:1 (2.5 turns lock to lock) power rack & pinion, Strange double adjustable shocks all 4 corners, 550# front and 250# rear springs (to start with), Tri-4 bar rear suspension, Mark Williams modular 9" rearend, Wilwood 14" disc brakes all 4 corners, 6 piston F & 4 piston R ,Budnil billet, G-Force custom T-56, McLeod dual disc.
The motor is 542 (4.380"X4.500") inches. Its based on an LSM CNC lightened IA-2 cylinder block, SCAT forged crank, Oliver billet rods, solid roller, Procharger F-1C, intercooler, FAST EFI, etc.

The big inch, low compression (9.2:1) and moderate boost (~12#) combo should make for a good street package.

If you can pull this off, that package for your GTO will set a new ... well a new... well a new... you know what I mean!

R.P.

[7TSS]

Nice project you got there. Was looking at the same frame but didn't want to cut up the floor to fit it. One of my friends ordered up a Schwartz frame and I'm waiting to see how that turns out.

Good luck with the project and keep us updated.

[olds87]

That is awesome

[ponjohn]

Sounds great and Pontiac power to boot.

Do you have a link for the frame company?

John

[SDMAN]

PonJohn....here is a link to the frame.

http://www.artmorrison.com/maxg/musclecar/index.cfm

I had a call from my guy a Morrison, and the frame and suspension ship tomorrow. Looks like Christmas comes early for me this year.

And it looks like there will be a change of plans. Instead of Wilwood, I might go with Baer Monoblocks 6 piston front and rear on 14's. Baer is local, and I can just take the car to their shop. Plus they can order the Budniks with the correct brake clearance. Less work for me.

[ponjohn]

I priced one from another company and stripped it was 3495.

[WS6]

Very cool sounded car SDman. More pictures would be fantastic

[GM_muscle]

where or who made the blower head unit mount? i am building a 467 blower motor for my 79 firebird 10.5 car and cant find a head unit mount for a pontiac on the d/s head. p-dud has a kit its for the other side.

[SDMAN]

Other than the setup P-Dude sells (pass side mount), you are on your own when it comes to mounting a centrifugal on a real Pontiac.

The setup on my motor is a custom one off piece we fabricated to work with the parts I am using. I had to custom order a couple of Evans reverse rotation water pumps for Pontiac, as this setup spins the water pump backwards. I ordered 2 because I like to have backup parts for hard to get stuff whenever I can. The power steering pump is for a power rack and pinion, and is a non standard GM part as well.

After thinking more about this, I have something to add. Maybe you know this already. All we fabricated for the actual mount was the method to attach a Procharger in a standard Procharger mount, to a Pontiac motor. This involves making an adapter that bolts to a Pontiac cylinder head (on the drivers side) on one end, and bolts to the Procharger mount on the other end. The only other design consideration is depth (how thick this adapter is), and location (keep it as low as possible). The pulley system is based on a March Serpentine Pontiac kit, and some hand made pieces. It took some time, but it really wasnt that difficult.

[SDMAN]

Well, after many months of measuring, spec'ing and waiting.....its time to get busy and get this puppy on the road.

The guys at Art Morrison were great. Its a well made piece.