Troubles...

[Jim Nilsen]

If the guy is unable to do your wiring in that much time he is definately going to be unable to withstand the court system and if he is crying because you don't pay him ,just tell him he should have learned to color within the lines in his coloring book instead of believing his mother and thinking an incomplete and shoddy job is acceptable !

Teach him what shame is and don't pay him !

[go-fish]

I don't think his efforts so far merit any payment but if you do decide to pay him, do it like he works.....slowly. 15 dollars a week or something. He would probably just get annoyed and stopping coming after it.

[BMF Machine]

That cause I talked to John and he 411'd me on the Nova. I made sure to get your shops website into the story.. does that get me a discount? lol

And I fully to expect to pay for work done, I just expect a certain amount of stuff to get done for a certain $$$ amount

MMMMMmmmmm, whens this Nova Issue coming out? Just wondering???? P.S. do not pay the Crack head wiring guy a single penny! Not even a Canadian penny!(Bad-----Penny) lol

Sorry bout that?

[jeff s]

Doing wiring right takes time. Last time I paid someone to wire a car cost me $3800.

[bookends]

that is true but that was probably starting from scratch, bad penny had wiring it just needed to be cleaned up, everything worked. 40+ hours later and nothing worked anymore! this guy is a fire hazard.

[ACEFOOTER]

Heck I would have paid you to be able to wire Penny. I agree about not stiffing some one on labor but if they mis-represent their skill level then you should not pay. $100.00 travel expenses on top of what you have already paid sounds more than fair. Good Luck at the show!

[Martin71RS]

Jeff, next time call me!! for that money I will fly in from the Netherlands and do the wiring for you

I know doing it right will take time.....but 3800$ ?

Martin

[bigvegan]

Dude, don't pay that wiring guy.

If he tries to take you to small claims court, he'll have to account for his time. He can't just say "Oh, I worked on it," he'll have to explain exactly what it is that he did, and most likely the judge won't look too kindly on spending a few grand worth of time to start with a car with numerous electrical problems at the beginning, and leave with a car with numerous electrical problems at the end.

Most likely he won't, a) becaue he knows he's in the wrong on this one, b) becaue filing a claim involves time and paperwork, and c) it's a little awkward to have judgments against you on the public record if you're hoping to provide services to other people.

Assuming he wasn't completely under the table, try a claim with the BBB.

Good Luck.

[Bob Johnson]

I agree with Tony here. Give him some "good will" money and be done with it. If he does take you to court the judge will ask him a simple question. "Do you have a signed contract/work order? No? Sorry. I rule in favor of the rag writer that cannot spell schedule correctly."

lmao

[Steve1968LS2]

Doing wiring right takes time. Last time I paid someone to wire a car cost me $3800.

That's about right. My new guy said about 40 hours to do a whole car from scratch with all new custom wire. That includes power windows, basic audio system, AC, Heat and all that jazz.

Before we started my front lights worked fine but the wiring was cut loose to pull the front end. The tail lights worked and all the engine wiring was already done and working minus wiring in the fans. Add in that I don't have any real accesories and I think the guy should of had more done, much more, in 43 hours. To spend that much time and have almost nothing function, not to mention having no clue how much longer it would take to finish, is unacceptable.

[Steve1968LS2]

Jeff, next time call me!! for that money I will fly in from the Netherlands and do the wiring for you

I know doing it right will take time.....but 3800$ ?

Martin

It all comes down to the hourly rate.. $3800 is 50 hours at $75 an hour. :shrug:

[GT500KR_Vert]

and technically he owes you a refund for the poor work he did. Don't pay him and if he threatens to take you to court you can counter sue for a refund and let him know that. You also will have an invoice from your new guy explaining how the previous work had to be redone because it was wrong. I had to do this with my last car; the guy restoring it wouldn't return my phone calls and then when I came to pickup the car he had butchered it beyond repair. Gave him a check and canceled it immediately to avoid a fight, brought it home and got an estimate for repair, he took me to court, I countered and the judge dropped a $5000 bill to $900 because of parts, which were unusable, but could have been worse.

[Martin71RS]

It all comes down to the hourly rate.. $3800 is 50 hours at $75 an hour.

When you put it like that Steve I can see where it comes from... but that is a shop (professional) rate I guess? And when they take 50 hours it should be a very nicely executed job.

Martin

[zero g]

The question is where did you find this guy and how did you get the idea he knew what he was doing?

[Whistler]

I'll do it for a plane ticket and a ride to the shop.

[Bow Tie 67]

Steve,

It's to late for me to read all the replies but after reading your post, screw the guy. ( no I don't think you would be by not paying him ) Why in the He** should you pay for this moron to send himself to school on your car. I do this type of work for a living and have numerous hours in the wiring on my car, after 43 hours there should be more progress. The fact he wired the speedo wrong and did not read the supplement about the yellow wire tells me he should not be charging for his work. After all in my book hes not a professional and therefore has no right charging for backyard maintenance. ( if you can even call it that ) Save your hard earned cash for someone who will do the wiring justice. If not I have some oceanfront property in Arizona.

Matt

[BA.]

droppin knowledge on yo azz!! dat's how we roll yo.