Manual steering box help

[69Nova]

My cars steering has been loose for as long as I have had it. I have tightened the screw and that helped some. But I feel its time for a new steering box. I still want to stay manual but want something high performance. Is there any company that makes a stock style box for my car(69 Nova) but with a quicker ratio?

[David Pozzi]

A manual box has a second adjuster for the input shaft, it's the plug on the bottom, (forward) end of the box.

A PS box also has a second adjuster on the input side (top).

I believe AGR has manual fast ratio boxes which should get you close to 2.25 turns lock to lock. Depending on your outer steering arm and pitman arm lengths. There are three outer arm lengths, and two lengths of manual pitman arms.
David

[dhardison]

Andrew,

Funny you should post this because I just ordered a new manual steering box for my '70 yesterday. Short story is,,,,, Two years ago I switched from a factory manual steering box which was 24:1 to a 16:1 factory replacement that had been rebuilt. The difference was AMAZING. Well, since then that 16:1 box has become very sloppy, so yesterday I ordered a NEW (not rebuilt) 16:1 manual replacement from Remy Racing Shop. In my opinion the price wasn't bad at all. Here's the URL, and the unit I purchased is #525161.

I looked on AGR's site but didn't see where they offered a manual box.

http://www.remyracingshop.com/index....r=nova&x=0&y=0
http://www.remyracingshop.com/index....id=10&parent=0

[69Nova]

A manual box has a second adjuster for the input shaft, it's the plug on the bottom, (forward) end of the box.

Thanks for the info David.

[69Nova]

Andrew,

Funny you should post this because I just ordered a new manual steering box for my '70 yesterday. Short story is,,,,, Two years ago I switched from a factory manual steering box which was 24:1 to a 16:1 factory replacement that had been rebuilt. The difference was AMAZING. Well, since then that 16:1 box has become very sloppy, so yesterday I ordered a NEW (not rebuilt) 16:1 manual replacement from Remy Racing Shop. In my opinion the price wasn't bad at all. Here's the URL, and the unit I purchased is #525161.

I looked on AGR's site but didn't see where they offered a manual box.

http://www.remyracingshop.com/index....r=nova&x=0&y=0
http://www.remyracingshop.com/index....id=10&parent=0

Wow thanks for the info. I'm probly going to order the same one this week. I'm just trying to do a couple cheap things before the next autox. Plus the car needed one anyway. Thanks for the help.

BTW whats new with your car?

[MarkM66]

Andrew,

Funny you should post this because I just ordered a new manual steering box for my '70 yesterday. Short story is,,,,, Two years ago I switched from a factory manual steering box which was 24:1 to a 16:1 factory replacement that had been rebuilt. The difference was AMAZING. Well, since then that 16:1 box has become very sloppy, so yesterday I ordered a NEW (not rebuilt) 16:1 manual replacement from Remy Racing Shop. In my opinion the price wasn't bad at all. Here's the URL, and the unit I purchased is #525161.

I looked on AGR's site but didn't see where they offered a manual box.

http://www.remyracingshop.com/index....r=nova&x=0&y=0
http://www.remyracingshop.com/index....id=10&parent=0

How many turns lock to lock is that 16:1 box.

[dhardison]

How many turns lock to lock is that 16:1 box.

My current 16:1 box is 3 turns lock-lock with a short pitman and long steering/outer arms. I've picked up a long pitman and short steering/outer arms so I hope that helps knock it down to ~2.5 turns lock-lock with the new box.

[69Nova]

Hey Dan how soon is yours due to come in??? Please let me know what you think of it when you get it.

[dhardison]

Hey Dan how soon is yours due to come in??? Please let me know what you think of it when you get it.

'Assuming' it's in stock I hope to have it this week. I'll let you know.

[69Nova]

Cool. I think I'm going to order one friday. Then hopefully I'll make my mind up on the next thing.... Slicks for my car! I'm going to look for some for 15inch tires that will be shorter and hopefully wider than my street tires. I've got the autox bug.

[dhardison]

I just spoke with Remy and the box is shipping out today from Flint, MI which is just down the road. So, barring any unforseen problems I should have it this week and hopefully can install this weekend.

Slicks all around would REALLY make your '69 hug the track!

[69Nova]

Awsome. I think I'll just wait to hear what your opinion is before I order one.

And yeah I think I'm going to make the dive and order slicks soon. I want some autox only wheels and tires that are short and wide. Then work on my driving skill. I'm not horible but there is alot to learn

[Skip Fix]

For reasonable priced road race slicks look up John Berget racing tires. Once you use a slick,you'll never think DOTs are sticky!

[69Nova]

For reasonable priced road race slicks look up John Berget racing tires. Once you use a slick,you'll never think DOTs are sticky!

Awsome! Thanks I'll defintly check them out.

[MarkM66]

I wonder if the stock manual box could be upgraded to the high ratio?

[69Nova]

I was wondering that too. If it was possible do you think that might be a cheaper route to go?

[johnnyc]

I wish I would have seen this thread last week! I just bought a manual box for my 67 Camaro from Flaming river, and it was a little over $700.00...I havent gotten it yet, but maybe Ill just return it.....

[dhardison]

Andrew,

I haven't had a chance to install the new steering box, but here are a few pics.

http://www.danhardison.com/remy/DSC03019.JPG
http://www.danhardison.com/remy/DSC03020.JPG
http://www.danhardison.com/remy/DSC03021.JPG
http://www.danhardison.com/remy/DSC03022.JPG

[69Nova]

Looks nice. I think I'm going to order one this week. I really need one for the car. Plus it will give me some motivation to detail under the hood.

[MarkM66]

Power steering is over-rated, .