Cloned Meat WTF

[Jimmy Sean]

A somewhat misleading term for a far more primitive method of separating the meat from the bones. The basic mechanical separation process involves taking a really powerful hose, and blasting a dead animal with it, untill all of the edible and semi-edible parts come off, and are collected from a grate above the drain. Tasty.

Mechanically separated poultry is a paste-like and batter-like poultry product produced by forcing bones, with attached edible tissue, through a sieve or similar device under high pressure to separate bone from the edible tissue. Mechanically separated poultry has been used in poultry products since the late 1960’s. In 1995, a final rule on mechanically separated poultry said it was safe and could be used without restrictions. However, it must be labeled as “mechanically separated chicken or turkey” in the product’s ingredients statement. The final rule became effective November 4, 1996. Hot dogs can contain any amount of mechanically separated chicken or turkey.

Yummy!!!

[andrewb70]

You and your vegetarian-edness almost had us waiting 45 minutes for a table. And we drove past at least 60 restaurants on the way to that "grazing" friendly joint.

Face it, homey: Cows are convenient. Cloned cows? Very convenient.

Key word...Almost....who got you one of the best seats in the house in no time flat? Not to mention the fact that 50 out of the 60 restaurants that we passed sucked.

Andrew

[parsonsj]

Catastrophe due to identical DNA? Perhaps, perhaps not.

Our basic cereal feedstocks are all based on single versions of original domesticated plants. Humans have been bending natural things for our benefit for untold thousands of years. Have a look at non-domesticated wheat, corn, rice, peanuts, almonds, or olives. They are unrecognizable, and not very edible.

While it's true that today's technology allows faster manipulation of foodstuff DNA than ever before, it is merely the same techniques: just faster. Eventually beef will be "grown" on an edible "mesh" with no actual animals involved.

It's the future, and it will resolve the vegetarian dilemma: meat without parents or slaughter!

One other thing to consider is that cloning techniques will allow humans to generate more food for less money. That may not be of interest to most Americans, but it would be useful to help poorer countries feed hungry populations.

jp

[Jim Nilsen]

I was intrigued by this and searched a very short distance to find this out and am still wondering if what I see is really true.

At a Plant and Animal Genomes Conference that was held, they describe (FISH) as FLuoresence in situ Hybridization and it is something that afects (BACs) Bacterial artificial chromosome 6.

Now I am no genius but it appears to me that a journalist and some other educated person read something they didn't understand but could still spell and damned if it didn't read FISH in the article they read and while they are confused they are really mad about what their imagination is doing to them.

I think most of this stuff is way over most of our heads and the people who make these decisions more often than not these days are confused by the facts and the way they are presented.

Vegetarians and fruit eaters have been eating clones forever and now they are just finding it out,LOL.

I eat what taste good and makes me feel good. Lifes too short to be unhappy about what you eat. Happy people live longer because without being happy your not living ,you just exist like bad DNA (definately not alive). MMMMMMMMMM cloned DNA !

I think I will go and work on my car which has enough hazards of it's own to worry about and if I can clone it when I am done I will know I better think about what i'm eating

Jim Nilsen

[Steve1968LS2]

/wonder what tiger tastes like..
//chicken?

No, more like spotted owl...


Cloned meat.. can't say I'm that concerned. I would worry more about hormones and other stray chemicals.

We eat the organic stuff at home... :shrug:

If God didn't want us to eat meat he wouldn't have made it so tasty..

[TonyL]

Gaffigan on vegetarians

Funny stuff. NSFW language.

[XCESSIV]

IWAS FOURTH GENERATION MEAT PACKER IN THE GREAT CITY OF CINCINNATI OHIO MANIUPLATION OF CATTLE HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR EVER. A BREED CREATED WAS CROSS AN BLACK ANGUS WITH A HOLESTEIN AND YOU GET A WHITE FACE. Farmer feeds the same amount of feed and gets more gross weight out of it.

[JoshStratton]

I am surprised no one has brought up the growth hormones that are being injected into livestock currently. More and more farmers are doing it.

This is the reason my brother-in-law is 6 foot 5 and no one else in her family barely reaches 6 foot (I would think the ole bird was messin around but he looks just like his father).

This also makes me wonder about HGH and other roids that are baned by the government and pro-sports. We are getting enough of this crap in our food to sink a battleship. Why not let them just inject it directly.

[aonghus]

Genetically modifying cattle is probobly one of the best things that can be done for the cattle industry. Theoretically (though probobly not very plausible) the quality of meat will go up, and prices down in proportion to quality. I think its stupid to assume that an industry as large as that of the American Meat producers would be shortsighted enough to reduce the genetic diversity so greatly as to make the entire herd more vulnerable to disease than they already are.

As for vegtables and other things: When someone can prove that GM'ed DNA can be affect an individuals own genetic makeup, I'll be happy to worry about what I'm eating. For now I'll stick to staying away from proccessed foods with preservaties out the buttocks and known trace amounts of carcinagens.

Also: I work with a Vegan, who has hezbollah like opinions regarding meat. I've been yelled at for eating meat on my lunchbreaks. All I have to say about that: The human brain as we know it now wouldn't have developed into their current states without the excess nutrition provided by the consumption of meat. Berries and Nuts just wont cut it, unless of course you want to be a Bonobo or something. There is a reason we stand upright and have stereoscopic vision!

[bingham72]

Anyone ever have a close look at a Slim Jim wrapper?

First ingredient: Mechanically separated chicken. Will someone please explain that process?

We had an operations management class project where we studied Just in TIme operations. One group went to a chicken plant in N. GA. This is what I remember of it.
I believe it starts with the chicken being restrained at all 5 points( head, 2 wings, 2 legs), then mechanically cut into respective pieces, via saws, or lasers or high pressure water.
To get it the chicken into Slim Jim, I'd guess they have a machine that separates the bone from the meat too.

[aonghus]

I am surprised no one has brought up the growth hormones that are being injected into livestock currently. More and more farmers are doing it.

This is the reason my brother-in-law is 6 foot 5 and no one else in her family barely reaches 6 foot (I would think the ole bird was messin around but he looks just like his father).

Your Brother-In-Law is likely 6'5" due to genetic abnormality, passive genes that his family already carries, or simply by better nutrition. I seriously doubt it has anything to do with Hormones in meat. Last I checked, Dyanabol and other growth hormones used in cattle stunt growth in humans, I should know, my dad took it and stopped at 5'10", I'm 6'4", our family has a distinct genetic pattern of being anywhere from 6'0" all the way to 7'0," his father, my grandfather being 6'5" and born in 1929...

[JoshStratton]

Your Brother-In-Law is likely 6'5" due to genetic abnormality, passive genes that his family already carries, or simply by better nutrition. I seriously doubt it has anything to do with Hormones in meat. Last I checked, Dyanabol and other growth hormones used in cattle stunt growth in humans, I should know, my dad took it and stopped at 5'10", I'm 6'4", our family has a distinct genetic pattern of being anywhere from 6'0" all the way to 7'0," his father, my grandfather being 6'5" and born in 1929...

You certainly know a lot more about than I do; I just eat the stuff. We always assumed it was the hormones. If you knew this kid, a genetic abnormality would definately explain a lot.

[6'9"Witha69]

I can say being 6'9" with a 5'8" dad and 5'11" mother and NOBODY in my family even coming close that there are abnormalites (or maybe I am just abnormal!).

The thought sorta scares me, but so does smoking, drinking, eating crap with preservatives and driving on LA freeways. All thing I do anyway and eventually one of them will kill me.

[Bob Johnson]

A somewhat misleading term for a far more primitive method of separating the meat from the bones. The basic mechanical separation process involves taking a really powerful hose, and blasting a dead animal with it, untill all of the edible and semi-edible parts come off, and are collected from a grate above the drain. Tasty.

Mechanically separated poultry is a paste-like and batter-like poultry product produced by forcing bones, with attached edible tissue, through a sieve or similar device under high pressure to separate bone from the edible tissue. Mechanically separated poultry has been used in poultry products since the late 1960’s. In 1995, a final rule on mechanically separated poultry said it was safe and could be used without restrictions. However, it must be labeled as “mechanically separated chicken or turkey” in the product’s ingredients statement. The final rule became effective November 4, 1996. Hot dogs can contain any amount of mechanically separated chicken or turkey.

Yummy!!!

damn why did you have to tell us that...that will probably kill me now...haven't you ever heard what you don't know won't hurt you??

[shmoov69]

There is a reason we stand upright and have stereoscopic vision!

Ummm, GOD!
But for me, without dead cows to eat, I would definately die! If it is green and I am suppoesed to eat it, it had better be green beans or m&m's!!

[Bandit]

I don't care, if someone would clone me a nice juicy t-bone right now I would tear it up--I'm starving!

[justanova]

Ummm, GOD!
But for me, without dead cows to eat, I would definately die! If it is green and I am suppoesed to eat it, it had better be green beans or m&m's!!

me too

[justanova]

I don't care, if someone would clone me a nice juicy t-bone right now I would tear it up--I'm starving!

me too again

[Doug G]

I think we should clone border guards and let the cows and steers do what they do :D

[EFI69Cam]

Also: I work with a Vegan, who has hezbollah like opinions regarding meat. I've been yelled at for eating meat on my lunchbreaks. All I have to say about that: The human brain as we know it now wouldn't have developed into their current states without the excess nutrition provided by the consumption of meat. Berries and Nuts just wont cut it, unless of course you want to be a Bonobo or something. There is a reason we stand upright and have stereoscopic vision!

There would be an incidence of work place violence if someone yelled at me about what I eat.