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    1. #1
      Join Date
      Oct 2004
      Location
      little falls minnesota
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      Rear roll steer ?

      I know that if a person has rear steer that if anything you should have roll understeer.
      Short of running anything through a susp. program, is there a actual
      amount (ie. 1/8" difference in wheel base between left and right) that would be considered 'max'?
      I know every rig will react different and depending on the application, some is better than none and more is worse than some, and anything would be better than oversteer.

      Thanks,Doug

    2. #2
      Join Date
      Nov 2002
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      Somewhere around 3% roll steer is probably appropriate for most PT-oriented cars (the axle steers 0.03° for every degree of sprung mass roll relative to the axle). Coincidentally, that 1/8" difference-in-wheelbase-during-roll figure agrees quite well with 4° roll (not including tire deflection effects) and a 60" track.

      The geometric construction of the axle's own roll axis isn't particularly difficult, and can be done in a simple spreadsheet. Its slope is the rollsteer %. Just keep in mind that it will vary a bit in both directions (from more U/S to less U/S or even going slightly O/S under extreme braking) as rear ride height varies with changes in the loading (e.g. passengers, trunk load, accelerating, braking).


      Norm

      '08 GT coupe, 5M, suspension unstockish (the occasional track toy)
      '19 WRX, Turbo-H4/6M (the family sedan . . . seriously)
      Gone but not forgotten dep't:
      '01 Maxima 20AE 5M, '10 LGT 6M, '95 626, V6/5M; '79 Malibu, V8/4M-5M; '87 Maxima, V6/5M; '72 Pinto, I4/4M; '64 Dodge V8/3A

    3. #3
      Join Date
      Jun 2006
      Location
      NW burbs IL
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      I have a question, my wheelbase is not equal on both sides. I have aligned the front end ( although the right front could use more + caster ) and aligned the rear end dead even with the front tires.

      I'm thinking if I add more + caster on the RF it will increase the difference between wheelbase side to side.

      Currently the W.B. measures driver side 107 29/32" WB and the passenger side reads 107 23/32".

      Camber 3/4* both sides

      Caster 2.8* left & 2.5* right Can this slight difference change the W.B. by a 3/16" ????????

      Is there an acceptable limit on W.B. difference while static? Or am I splitting hairs?

      I would assume that depending on which side its " staggered to " would decide which turn direction the car would react to better.

      Matt
      Matt


      Current project: " Chain Reaction "

      A.K.A. " BIG " by wife, biatch in garage.

      1969 RS Camaro L92 T56 Quadra-link, CW sub, Ford 9" a progressive build.

      Ex track car: 1995 Camaro LS1 T56


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