Poison Dart??!! Wtf??!!!

[1970cuda]

good thing it was a dart and not a dart swinger or scamp. we really could have had fun with those names but remember it is the nova of the mopar world.

[Beige]

I figured it was a ripoff too but I didn't care that much.

It's not like this is the first time a project name has been used more than once.

Try to think of a name you'd call your own Dart project. I doubt it would be the same as the ones dreamt up in this thread.

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

BITERS as we call them where im from..

stole the name..

[LoPro67]

good thing it was a dart and not a dart swinger or scamp. we really could have had fun with those names but remember it is the nova of the mopar world.

Hey, HEY! What is that suppose to mean? "Nova of the Mopar world"?

[1970cuda]

that is what ricky rocket said the dart was. you have a dam nice chevy II by the way

[CarlC]

I am still calling my car "the pearl green cyclone"



Just kidding.

That's freakin' hilarious on so many levels.....

[andrewb70]

I am still calling my car "the pearl green cyclone"



Just kidding.

Hey ya'll...Do it have a 383 stroker motor...

Andrew

P.S....Im going to hell....

[Bill Howell]

I agree, it's not like it was that much of an original idea. Barry and his crew probably don't even know of the other car.

Come on now. As much as the dart Jeff built has been around, anyone who is anyone knows that car or at least has heard about it. Do a search on our board and see how many threads it is in. I know that car was on power tour last year, in a trailer and pulled out at the stops, cause Frank saw it here, then I saw it at SEMA, and Detroit Autorama. Not that names make or break a car, but I would ask around before I used one that has just been used. To me there is only one Poison Dart, the one Jeff built.
BTW, I saw Jeff and his hotrod about two hours ago. That ultima is one bad ass car. Too bad fat boys don't fit into them.

[moparguy]

Yep, I thought that was a little strange calling it the poison dart also since there has already been one that has had alot of print time and notoriety.
It would be like someone coming up with another BigRed 69 Camaro or another Mule Camaro and having it appear on TV and in print like its just groundbreaking...its just not right....but the Dart is the nova of the mopar world! That is just too funny!

[hotrodgal]

Hello Everyone,

Just wanted to pop on and say that at the time we were working on the Dart, Barry and I had no idea about the other "Poison Dart". We were at SEMA, but spent so much time in the Ford booth and with our camera crew that we didn't see much anything else. Chris actually came up with the idea of using Rikki Rocket and Poison, he has a good friend that works for the record label that represents the band, and they thought it would be a good publicity idea. Sorry if we offended anyone (AGAIN!!!) but unless Chris has an agenda I don't know about, this was entirely coincidental. Thanks for watching the show!!

[trapin]

Thanks for your input Becky. Like I said, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. I'm really trying to decide if I like the show or not. Seems like today we have two factions of the Hot Rod industry; The Hobbiests and The Oppurtunists. In other words...some people build cars because they love them....others build them because they love the money they can make from them. I am not familiar with the Oppurtunist's world and I really hate what's happening to all these old cars. They've become the proverbial trading card for the upper class. And I think that's too bad.

[hotrodgal]

Tony, I guess we can be classified as both "hobby-ists" and "opportunists", if that's what you want to call us. We have been building cars for over 25 years...started out just doing it for the love of it in our garage, and as people saw what Barry could do, more and more asked him to do the work on their cars that they either couldn't or didn't want to do. That has turned into the business you see today. We were just lucky enough to be able to turn our passion (which in case you haven't noticed is building awesome cars) into a profitable business that allows us to do what we love all day long. Thanks for watching!

[camcojb]

Tony, I guess we can be classified as both "hobby-ists" and "opportunists", if that's what you want to call us. We have been building cars for over 25 years...started out just doing it for the love of it in our garage, and as people saw what Barry could do, more and more asked him to do the work on their cars that they either couldn't or didn't want to do. That has turned into the business you see today. We were just lucky enough to be able to turn our passion (which in case you haven't noticed is building awesome cars) into a profitable business that allows us to do what we love all day long. Thanks for watching!

I like the builds you've done. I think the prices they've sold at are very good deals, considering the quality of the build.

Jody

[SN65]

Hi All,

Just my two cents, but if you don't want anyone else to inadvertantly (ore otherwise) use the name you applied to your car, just TM it. It does not cost a penny and you will have protected the name from unauthorized use.

[trapin]

Tony, I guess we can be classified as both "hobby-ists" and "opportunists", if that's what you want to call us. We have been building cars for over 25 years...started out just doing it for the love of it in our garage, and as people saw what Barry could do, more and more asked him to do the work on their cars that they either couldn't or didn't want to do. That has turned into the business you see today. We were just lucky enough to be able to turn our passion (which in case you haven't noticed is building awesome cars) into a profitable business that allows us to do what we love all day long. Thanks for watching!

Becky, I think you misunderstood me. I wasn't thinking of you, Barry and your business when I was talking about "Oppurtunists". Doing what you love as a means of making a living is totally different. I think that's great. Hell, I would LOVE to do that. I'm talking about the people who are only in this hobby to exploite these great cars and get rich off of them. It's the guy who says, "Hey...I'll pay $70,000 for this Chevelle right now because I know in another year someone will give me $30-$40,000 more for it". I have a real big problem with that and not a lot of respect for the people who are guilty of it. How long before all these great cars are in the hands of the wealthy who's only real interest in them is to further their financial gain?

Sorry for my belly-aching....but I guess I'm just the sentimental type. And I certainly don't mean for my opinions to piss anyone off, although I know they probably will. I'm usually good for about 1 or 2 "foot-to-mouth" insertions a year on this board anyway. I'm about due for one.

I should probably add that I like what you and Barry do and that I also understand that what you do on that show is not necessarily your normal business routine. You guys build some killer cars. I know I said I wasn't sure if I liked the show or not....but I'll watch it, and probably not miss another episode. I have a low opinon of Boyd's show and yet my DVR is programmed to catch every one. I guess I just love cars too much.

[kennyd]

Hi All,

Just my two cents, but if you don't want anyone else to inadvertantly (ore otherwise) use the name you applied to your car, just TM it. It does not cost a penny and you will have protected the name from unauthorized use.

thats just what i need , i want to trademark the name for my chevelle . " CHITVELLE"

[SN65]

SNIP...

I'm talking about the people who are only in this hobby to exploite these great cars and get rich off of them. It's the guy who says, "Hey...I'll pay $70,000 for this Chevelle right now because I know in another year someone will give me $30-$40,000 more for it". I have a real big problem with that and not a lot of respect for the people who are guilty of it. How long before all these great cars are in the hands of the wealthy who's only real interest in them is to further their financial gain?

SNIP...

Hi Trapin,

I guess that you are entitled to your opinion, but to me it sounds like so many sour grapes.




"Rich" people can spend their money on whatever they wish. If they want to build a car collection, then so be it. The only reason these cars go up in value is supply and demand. Do you think that the "rich" are to blame for the escalating prices of 60 and 70 muscle cars? If ONLY the "rich" were interested in these cars, they would not be worth squat. It is the interest of the masses that drives the price up.

Also, if you think that the prices are artificially inflated, then I imagine that you would be willing to sell your cars for the going price as they stood in 1978.

This is the same "bitch" that every hobbyist or collector has when he is activly participating in the hobby. BUT, it is amazing how their tune changes when they are selling. They are more than happy to sell at the current prices, even though it is the evil and corrupt "rich" who drove the prices up beyond the affordable level for the common man.

If you want an affordable car, buy an affordable car. There are millions of them out there.

[Steve1968LS2]

"poison dart"

Is not at big of a stretch to come up with.. I could certainly see almost anyone with a Dart coming up with that name..

Now if somebody named thier '69 Camaro "the mule" then I would have to cry shenanigans.. lol

[Steve1968LS2]

Becky, I think you misunderstood me. I wasn't thinking of you, Barry and your business when I was talking about "Oppurtunists". Doing what you love as a means of making a living is totally different. I think that's great. Hell, I would LOVE to do that. I'm talking about the people who are only in this hobby to exploite these great cars and get rich off of them. It's the guy who says, "Hey...I'll pay $70,000 for this Chevelle right now because I know in another year someone will give me $30-$40,000 more for it". I have a real big problem with that and not a lot of respect for the people who are guilty of it. How long before all these great cars are in the hands of the wealthy who's only real interest in them is to further their financial gain?

.

Do you feel the same way about anyone that invests in anyting? If I buy property today because I know it will be worth more tomorrow am I just as guilty (since I caused housing prices in general to go up)?

I just see it as part of life.. the popular stuff goes up in value because it's sought after.. the wealthy want what's popular and that causes it to become even more rare and thus more expensive.

However, I would hazzard to guess the the vast majority of musclecars are in the hands of middle class people and the "rich"..

Are we off topic now??? lol

[Damn True]

I think what gripes many people is the "flip this house" mentality that is becoming more prevelant. Most of us are car guys who are building something we have dreamt of for years if not our whole lives.

That "spirit" if you will is in direct opposition to, and is negativly affected by "investors" and those who simply want to have an expensive thing for the sake of having another expensive thing. An Objet d'art.

Sour grapes? Depends on which side of the coin you are on I suppose, but when one's dream is made less attainable by virtue of those who are merely in it for profit clearly, as we see expressed here often, it causes bad feelings.

Personally, I don't begrudge anyone having something they want if they can afford it. If someone can afford to purchase a Suburban and put fuel in it, by all means do so, and pi$$ on any hippie that says otherwise. But, it rubs me wrong when somoene just buys into this "hobby" and dosen't know a damn thing about the car they've bought (other than the amount of the check they wrote) or appreciate the hard work and skill that went into creating it. As big an offense, IMO, if not greater is the guy that buys in, then just pickles the car and never uses it.