Question for Dave Pozzi

[mikes69z]

Crash,

Same shift pattern as the existing 5 speed. But the tailshaft housing is going to be similar to the ROD 6 speed trans. Anyway, I'm hoping to swap in a Hurst shifter with a modified mounting plate. Or speak to Long about putting the links inboard



They also said the gears are wider on the new 5 speed. Thats why it will carry 600 ft-lb torque.

As far as ratios - give them a call. They're very helpful. I do know they're offering a 26 as well as a 10 spline input as a drop in swap for the Muncie.

[68sixspeed]

Mike- not to add confusion, but the stock console does work on the ROD 6. It's moved back maybe an inch, but it's not noticeable. Yes, the shifter hole is further back than a muncie, but a muncie uses a bent shifter, the long is straight. tranny is in 1st gear in the picture below.

2.73's and thet 5 speed will work pretty good though- for reference my 4.10's with a .62OD spin 2100-2150 at 70mph; that's a 2.56:1 final drive with a 27" tire; with 2.73:1 you should spin 2250-2300 at 70 if your rear tire size is the same. You might be giving a little up out of the hole even with the 3.27:1 first, but it should be fine.

-Dan

[mikes69z]

Dan,

Yea, but a ROD is going to be $3K+ for the trans plus new driveshaft, clutch etc. The TKO swap will be $3K also..

With an old Nash 4+1, I can use my 10 spline Muncie clutch and slide it straight in. The total cost of the swap would be really cheap - including gears and new carrier

Is that the way it can be done - would I would need a new gear carrier to use 2.73 or 2.56 gears in my 12 bolt housing? Has anyone done this before? Is this a good idea or am I just being a crazy?

Comments appreciated!

[funcars]

I had a Doug Nash in my 65 vette and never liked how it shifted. Even worse than a Muncie. A toploader shifts a lot nicer. The newer trannies like the TKO's and the T56's are better yet. Best I've used is the ZF6, but it's big and noisy.

No free lunch...

[mikes69z]

Fun,

I have a Muncie in my '69 and a T56 in my '98. I don't notice that much difference except the gates on the Muncie are very narrow.

And I'm kinda willing to accept the DNE shortcomings because I don't race my car, and I'm OK with the shifting not being "super" slick... It's strong point is that the 5 speed is a very easy swap, and the ratios are perfect.

Are there any other things I should be "looking out" for when I buy an old DNE 5 speed? Any lessons learned on these? I kinda remember there was. Or was it their fiasco with GM and the 4+3 units that put them out of business

Thanks again,

[funcars]

I had to replace the bearings with higher quality ones. Mine was a Doug Nash. The bearings were supposedly upgraded after Richmond started making them. Also, I was told that the earliest Doug Nash versions did not have all roller bearings. So I would look for a newer one.

One nice thing - it is pretty easy to take them apart and rebuild them. Some of the parts are super t10 parts and interchangeable.

Good luck