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    1. #1
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      Coil over conversion

      Anyone tried doing their own coil over conversion? There does not seem to be a whole lot to the DSE kit for the $500 they charge. Seems like 3/8" steel plate laser cut to fit.

      Also where would I find a lower shock mount like whats in their kit?



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      Remember, as with most any design, you are paying for the engineering and not so much for the materials. Are you sure you would know where to put the upper shock mount? How about locating the upper control arm mounts so both are in the correct place? Asymetrical geometry would not be very predictable or fun to drive. You also pay for the relative ease of install by not having to worry about those issues. It is a really simple bracket to reproduce, but solves only a few of the issues.
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      Anytime you can buy something that has already been engineered that is a good thing in my book. Especially if a company like Detroit Speed made it. If you are not completely knowledgeable in suspension design then I suggest that you buy a kit or have someone fabricate something for you that know's what they are doing.
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      Quote Originally Posted by baz67
      Remember, as with most any design, you are paying for the engineering and not so much for the materials. Are you sure you would know where to put the upper shock mount? How about locating the upper control arm mounts so both are in the correct place? Asymetrical geometry would not be very predictable or fun to drive. You also pay for the relative ease of install by not having to worry about those issues. It is a really simple bracket to reproduce, but solves only a few of the issues.

      You are correct, thats why given my need to stay with factory mount points, I would build a jig similar to theirs, but keeping stock points. Two pieces of 1" bar welded to a pair of stock cross shafts would work, then just do one side at a time.
      If I had not just bought the ATS tall spindles, which I believe are a better solution to address the cars design shortcomings, I would buy the DSE kit for the reasons you mentioned.
      If I bought their kit I would spend alot of time reconfiguring the upper mount, so why not make my own?

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      I am assuming you bought the ATS tall spindle for better geometry and you want C/Os for the height adjustability. If so, then why not go with spring adjusters? That way you do not need to modify anything.
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      Quote Originally Posted by baz67
      I am assuming you bought the ATS tall spindle for better geometry and you want C/Os for the height adjustability. If so, then why not go with spring adjusters? That way you do not need to modify anything.

      Whats driving only partly is the ajustability, but I can make a spacer plate to get my 1" of height back. The other factor is that I had edelbrock IAS shocks all around. I want to go to a 4 link now, but I don't know how well the IAS shocks will work with another brand or type of shock in back.

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      I think that the IAS is made by Bilstein. I am not sure they can be revalved like other Bilsteins. You could go with Bilstein for the rear C/Os and not should not notice any issues.
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      I don't think the IAS are made by bilstein, I might be wrong.

      Anyways, Edelbrocks "tech" person gave me the brush off, so I think the QA1s are the way to go. The mule has them, so they would have to work someway or another.

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      IAS's are supposedly copy's of Bilsteins, that is from the owner of shox.com...




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