So long, GTO.....

[Analog-kid]

Old news dating back to 04. The GTO was scheduled to run from 04 to 06 on the current Monaro platform. Then go on hiatus to be re-tooled to a new platform to debut in 09. This was planned when they brought the car back. The low sales were a direct result of the low production being a specialty car imported from Aust. Those who bash the GTO the most likely never have driven, one much less owned one. As far as heritage goes the original GTO was nothing more than a modified Tempest, bigger engine, fake scoops. The 04 -06 is a modified Holden Monaro, bigger cam, better exhaust, Pontiac front sheet metal. I think it fits the bill just fine. I love the old GTO one day I'll build a 70 with an 06 drivetrain to sit next to my 04.
I do get sick of everyone whining " It's not retro" well folks welcome to the 21 century. This car was not intended to compete with the Mustang. It was and is intended to give an American option to BMW. Comfortable leather interior, independent rear suspension and a powertrain that kicks Butt. Compare price, power, and build quality with BMW and Benz. For the money you can't beat it. Everyone laments that GM doesn't have any RWD V8 offerings. Than complains when they release one because it's not a carbon copy of a 60's vehicle Have not met anyone who does'nt love the car in person.



Sorry for the all out rant. I mean no offence to anyone,but I get tired of all the bashing on the internet everytime the subject of the modern GTO comes up. Most times I hold my tongue but I'm In a bit of a mood tonight.

[WS6]

i agree with analog. my friend has an 04 and hands down its a great car. the lines of the car are very subtle and its a much more muscular car than people give it credit for. dont believe me. sit behind one while its rolling down the road. be in the lane next to one though so that you get a 3/4 view. low slung buldged fenders over nicely sized rims. awsome look. i love the car and will have one eventually. id liek cosmic purple with a black interior or maybe impulse blue with the blue interior.

[Analog-kid]

id liek cosmic purple with a black interior or maybe impulse blue with the blue interior.

They are great cars. Good Color choice. Ours is Cosmos Purple. Hard to find. we ordered ours. Only 4000 built. On the Purple cars the Purple leather interior is the only one available. It's a dark Purple , not Barney Purple. Unless the sun hits hits it most folks think it's black.

[BonzoHansen]

I would have one but I need 4 doors. How about building an M5 killer, but cheaper than the CTS-V?

Funny, I agree the original GTO was a kind of sleeper. So yes, they got the right. But the really memorable GTOs are the flashier ones. Why else is every one I see at shows is Judge? I expected to see a Judge package around 07.

[formula]

Old news dating back to 04. The GTO was scheduled to run from 04 to 06 on the current Monaro platform. Then go on hiatus to be re-tooled to a new platform to debut in 09. This was planned when they brought the car back. The low sales were a direct result of the low production being a specialty car imported from Aust. Those who bash the GTO the most likely never have driven, one much less owned one. As far as heritage goes the original GTO was nothing more than a modified Tempest, bigger engine, fake scoops. The 04 -06 is a modified Holden Monaro, bigger cam, better exhaust, Pontiac front sheet metal. I think it fits the bill just fine. I love the old GTO one day I'll build a 70 with an 06 drivetrain to sit next to my 04.
I do get sick of everyone whining " It's not retro" well folks welcome to the 21 century. This car was not intended to compete with the Mustang. It was and is intended to give an American option to BMW. Comfortable leather interior, independent rear suspension and a powertrain that kicks Butt. Compare price, power, and build quality with BMW and Benz. For the money you can't beat it. Everyone laments that GM doesn't have any RWD V8 offerings. Than complains when they release one because it's not a carbon copy of a 60's vehicle Have not met anyone who does'nt love the car in person.

BINGO!

I, for one, can't wait to buy a goat once I'm out of college. I think they're an awesome mix of power, handling, practicality, and luxury...with maybe just a bit too much weight. Other than that, I love 'em.

[EFI69Cam]

I would have one but I need 4 doors. How about building an M5 killer, but cheaper than the CTS-V?

Funny, I agree the original GTO was a kind of sleeper. So yes, they got the right. But the really memorable GTOs are the flashier ones. Why else is every one I see at shows is Judge? I expected to see a Judge package around 07.

The CTS-V pisses me off. If GM did not have their head up their A$$ they would have put a bow-tie on that car, lessened the pimp factor and sold it as an Impala SS for 10K less.

[speedster]

The other day when we saw a 94 GTO and a Toyota next to it and they pretty much looked identical, Yuk. The problem with the new GTO was that it looked the same as two dozen other cars. Great driveline, but not unique in any way. I hope by dropping this more funding goes to a new Firebird or something.

[speedster]

(When the new GTO first came out GM was pushing periodicals to compare it head to head with the new Mustang, even though Bob [P]utz said BMW later...)
The proof is in the numbers:
Annual GTO sales approx 11,000 units.
Monthly Mustang sales approx 11,000 units.
Ford sells as many Mustangs in a month as GTO does in a year. Sad.

[BonzoHansen]

The CTS-V pisses me off. If GM did not have their head up their A$$ they would have put a bow-tie on that car, lessened the pimp factor and sold it as an Impala SS for 10K less.

That is what I am saying.

You wanna get mad. How about a new XLR doing 55 in the left lane of an interstate with an old guy at the helm. Damn. I got nothing like that.

[Analog-kid]

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The proof is in the numbers:
Annual GTO sales approx 11,000 units.
Monthly Mustang sales approx 11,000 units.
Ford sells as many Mustangs in a month as GTO does in a year. Sad.

The GTO is a limited production vehicle. To compare it to the Mustang is comparing apples to oranges. Ford can spit out Mustangs in large volume. The GTO is manufactured by Holden of Australia.All Holden can handle producing for export is 10 to 12 thousand a year max. Given the low production numbers, sales are excellent

[WS6]

you know the GTO weights less than most of the world's super cars. it also weights just a tad more than most forth gen cars. so no the GTO is not a heavy car. i still dont understand why everyone says this. simply look at the numbers and its obvious the car is not heavy.

if i had the money it would be very hard for me to decide between a CTSV and a GTO. i love love love the CTSV. i get a chubby everytime i see one.

[6'9"Witha69]

i love love love the CTSV. i get a chubby everytime i see one.

The price tag is a good mood killer!

[bookends]

and has a usable trunk. .

the trunks were very small because of gas tank placement. besides the car made good power but it couldn't really use it because it was so heavy. at 4000 lbs it's a tank.

[1970cuda]

wasn't there talk of a complete redesign coming and not a cancellation?

[Analog-kid]

Yes the GTO is supposed to return in 09

[camcojb]

the trunks were very small because of gas tank placement. besides the car made good power but it couldn't really use it because it was so heavy. at 4000 lbs it's a tank.

I have an 05 and it weighs right at 3700 lbs. Definitely not 4000 lbs.

Jody