Hot Rod, Pro Touring?

[Damn True]

In all reality, the most likely cause of damage to a car during an open track event is a mechanical failure or an off-track excursion not getting hit by "some goober".

Most open track events have "passing zones" on long straights. All I'm sayin is that if this cat was out on a track, his ability to see someone coming up beside him (there will ALWAYS be someone faster) will be comprimised by the lack of side mirrors. IMO that is a safety concern not only for him, but for the people on the track with him.

Now if he, or you have the means to rent a track and have it all to yourself then more power to ya. But if there is going to be a comparison of one car against another lap times ought to be taken under the same conditions.

If a "shootout" was done and everyone had the track to themselves for their "run" the logistics would be a nightmare. It would take all day for everyone to have a couple of "learn the track" sessions then a couple of "tweak and tune" sessions etc.

To say nothing of the difference in track conditions. If you get your run at 8am and somone else runs at 3pm after the track has been run on all day you are kinda comparing apples to oranges.

[vanzuuk1]

True , i know your on the other coast but see my thread in racing events.

[Damn True]

I saw it. If I happen to be anywhere near that coast when it goes down I'll be there.

I'll be the guy sitting on a cooler of beer making wisecracks about your wheels.

[vanzuuk1]

By then I will have made a set of replica rally wheels in carbon fiber to reduce rotating mass.
Probably not, but i will give my wheels a fresh coat of the best spray paint money can buy.

[Damn True]

but i will give my wheels a fresh coat of the best spray paint money can buy.

Yeah buddy!

I still say the best name for your car is "Billet Proof".

[vanzuuk1]

That would be a great name if I didnt have to explain it to the non gearheads.

I like that and "plane jane" or just "jane"(steevos idea)

[Steve1968LS2]

Primedia has a reputation for playing a lot of musical chairs--especially with the higher paid talent. Ro is gone. Moved to Florida and doing freelance work.

You can check out Ro's new column in the April issue of PHR.. lol

He is going to relate stories from "back in the day".. cool stuff, the first story is about the first track flogging of a '69 ZL1

[Steve Chryssos]

You can check out Ro's new column in the April issue of PHR..

That's good to hear. He's one of the most talented writers around. And he's from Noo Joizey.

[sinned]

i've watched my buddies giving cardiac arrests to the Porsche and Ferrari guys with one of their fast junkers..they get off on it..

Hey....I resemble that remark. What pisses the high end owners off more, that the junkers are on the track or that they are running side by side with their 100K sport cars?

[Bob Johnson]

Hey....I resemble that remark. What pisses the high end owners off more, that the junkers are on the track or that they are running side by side with their 100K sport cars?

lot easier to make a pile of shi* go fast..You haven't got much to lose so you can drive the snot out of it...like going to Vegas, you can bet small and win..put big money down and you get skeered

[Damn True]

So by "goober" you are refering to which: The skill of the driver when compared to you or the cost of the car when compared to yours?

[Steve1968LS2]

So by "goober" you are refering to which: The skill of the driver when compared to you or the cost of the car when compared to yours?

I don't think that Bob was refering to ALL the other drivers.. just the occasional knucklehead that ventures on to the track from time to time. At Buttonwillow we had one, a guy in a Viper that though he was Schumacher.. lol

Almost nailed a couple guys before he was booted.. I think that was the "goober" he was speaking of.. We had the same problem with a guy in a clapped out honda thinking he was racing for a $100k purse..

Remember, this is the internet where it's easy to misread what someone is trying to say..

[vanzuuk1]

Vipers seem to have a bad rap at track days, deserved or not.

[Bob Johnson]

So by "goober" you are refering to which: The skill of the driver when compared to you or the cost of the car when compared to yours?

If he has less driving skill than I do, then he's as goober for sure. Another goober is a racer with an inexpensive purpose built race car wanting to blow away an expensive streetable or exotic car so he can brag to his friends how he just outran a car costing many times what his cost. Another goober is a guy out there driving over his head in anything and wrecking someone else. There are ass holes in inexpensive cars as well as expensive cars.

[Bob Johnson]

Hey....I resemble that remark. What pisses the high end owners off more, that the junkers are on the track or that they are running side by side with their 100K sport cars?

are you saying you resent that remark or you resemble that remark? If there's anything I can't stand more than a guy with a high buck car and cops an attitude, it's a guy that hasn't hustled in his life and has an attitude toward anyone who has and has more than he has.

[sinned]

I'll let you be the judge...

[sinned]

If he has less driving skill than I do, then he's as goober for sure. Another goober is a racer with an inexpensive purpose built race car wanting to blow away an expensive streetable or exotic car so he can brag to his friends how he just outran a car costing many times what his cost. Another goober is a guy out there driving over his head in anything and wrecking someone else. There are ass holes in inexpensive cars as well as expensive cars.

Ohhh, I resemble a few of those remarks too.

[Steve1968LS2]

I'll let you be the judge...

I really want to put that in readers ride :D

[Bob Johnson]

I'll let you be the judge...

i absolutely love rat rods. I can personally enjoy an inexpensive car that's well done much more than I can one of my high buck builds..I'm always worrying something is going to happen to it. I've been rear ended by a guy that hit a car 3 cars behind mine and knocked the other 2 into me. He had $10K worth of insurance..minimal legal here in Georgia. Did 40 K damage to mine alone..I don't worry and can enjoy a well done inexpensive car...note I said well done.. I've seen $10k cars I love..I've seen $300K cars I hate..amount spent is not my main criteria when I pass jusgement on a car.. I love my 66 Rambler, my 40 Ford Coupe rat rod, my 91 Infinity Q45...I like your El Camino. For my taste, front end needs to come down a touch where it caps the wheels at same place as rears do...get a grill and bumper on it and ride.

[sinned]

Thanks Bob, oh it's coming down.

You have my blessings Steve. God help us us all if that is magazine quality....oh maybe you meant in the "never to be finished" edition of readers rides.