Pro touring foxbody wagon

[nelzturingwagin]

Send me your motor build spec-heads/cam/size/compression. I will tell you what tricks that will wake it up. You can make big power out of a SBF if you know what you are doing, for cheap.

I was planning on the controversial long rod 351 windsor. I have all the pieces and will probably put that in to motion once I have a running car. Even if it proves to be a load of bull I intend to have the motor built up in the near future.

[DualQuadDave]

I was planning on the controversial long rod 351 windsor. I have all the pieces and will probably put that in to motion once I have a running car. Even if it proves to be a load of bull I intend to have the motor built up in the near future.

The whole "long rod windsor" was hot stuff in the early 90's(i think i still have the Super Ford article on it), but is a non-point these days. The science behind the long rod concept was to help crutch a crappy flowing head(Ford) for more overall power(piston dwell). Fast forward to today, you have tons of cyl head choices and airflow is flat out king. Tell me the budget and I will try to help build you a topend for the 351. You can keep the long rods if you want, but will not make any real difference in the end either way.

[ryeguy2006a]

Very cool build. It's pretty amazing to me that you can just swap in the IRS with little modifications. FWIW, I like the all white wheels the best.

[Zspoiler]

Nice sleeper

[nelzturingwagin]

I decided to replace the spare tire considering the one in the back is 14" in diameter and 4 lug. Once again craigslist comes through with a 2015 spare that is 5 lug and should clear cobra 13" front brakes.

[nelzturingwagin]

I also put the Daddywagon up on jack stands to work on the fuel system. However today is a special day and the Daddywagon has to wait.

[LERM]

Awesome project! Looking forward to progress.

[frink84]

Awesome build! My dad has done a few similar swaps, but no irs. He chose to swap the mustang dash, pedals, and column to make the wiring simpler.

[nelzturingwagin]

Awesome build! My dad has done a few similar swaps, but no irs. He chose to swap the mustang dash, pedals, and column to make the wiring simpler.

I know! Haha! I know you from foureyedpride, silly!

[frink84]

I know! Haha! I know you from foureyedpride, silly!

ahh, nice. i havent been on that site in a while!

[DualQuadDave]

No prob! PM me if it's easier to talk. I need specifics about what parts you have and some questions about the car.

[nelzturingwagin]

Yeah, I pretty much went with commonly available parts. Because I want a smooth street idle I picked stock cams. I have a speed density cam within the 1986 gt motor that is in the wagon right now. I also picked up a camshaft out of a 93-95 mustang cobra. I have gt40 iron heads from a ford lightning which have been upgraded with crane/cobra 1.7 : 1 ratio roller rockers. I've got an e-303 just sitting around but I am not gonna use it. I acquired an svo extender to help with initial tuning. Pro flow meter calibrated to the 24lb. injectors. Obviously gt40 lower in 302 & 351 variations. I have a supercharger box upper, the tubular, and the explorer.

[nelzturingwagin]

Well after thrashing on the Daddywagon over the past month including a week of staycation I got it to start today. It won't stay running unless I keep my foot on the accelerator. Not sure why yet but hopefully I can figure it out.

[813Demon340]

I love your wagon build and what you have gotten done so far. Glad to hear its close to running! Keep up the progress and the updates!

[nelzturingwagin]

Update! It is off the jackstands! It still has some issues, but it is a running and driving project for the time being!! I love the sound of the v8 with flowmasters coming from a station wagon. The wheels are sleeper and hide the cobra brakes nicely! There is some smoke I think it needs valve seals. It could use a tune but once it's warm it idles perfectly with a pushrod v8 rumble while you are sitting at a light! I have jumped on it and it pulls nicely and will spin both rear tires if I stay in it. The car tracks straight and feels pretty solid. Because it was a lowly 6 cylinder family car the chassis was never really stressed. I think that's why it's so solid. When I drive it there is a big grin on my face. I have my arm out the window, I rev it like an idiot at lights (stick shift) as if I'm on a motorcycle (why do we do that?), and I heel-toe every downshift like a wanna-be race car driver (I was, I am, and always will be a wanna-be race car driver)! It's not finished, but i got to drive it!

[RMMiller]

That's awesome!

[813Demon340]

Very cool, glad to see you're driving it and having fun!! Thats what its all about!

[nelzturingwagin]

Thanks! Still a whole lot I wanna do, aside from the little things. The big things are 351w, t56, torsen t2 geared at 3.27:1, and cobra r (brembo) front brakes! I already have most of the parts for the 351w swap. The t56 is gonna take some doing or a sudden influx of cash. The torsen is within the realm of possibility, but I have yet to setup differential gears for wear pattern. The Brembo fronts are $1200-$1400! All of that adds up to quite a bit of overtime. There is also the lottery build with a coyote or voodoo engine

[Ben@SpeedTech]

Yes! Very cool. Sounds similar to my long back build that went through upgrades as I drove it. It has been a fun time being the anti- pony car driver and a great experience making upgrades as I went along and seeing how things improved along the way. Not sure it really ends, just keeps getting better. As with the rest of us wagon groupies we look forward to you posting a pic like this... Have fun with it and keep posting progress!

[nelzturingwagin]

Yes! Very cool. Sounds similar to my long back build that went through upgrades as I drove it. It has been a fun time being the anti- pony car driver and a great experience making upgrades as I went along and seeing how things improved along the way. Not sure it really ends, just keeps getting better. As with the rest of us wagon groupies we look forward to you posting a pic like this... Have fun with it and keep posting progress!

That looks like so much fun! New Jersey Motorsports Park isn’t that far. Do you think they would let me run it? They all offer open track days, right? I did the Skip Barber 3 day in 1996 along with a day of shifter karting. It was the “last hurrah, I am about to become a father vacation”.