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    1. #1
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      1st Gen Camaro Steering Arms

      I am building a customers 1967 Camaro and we are wanting to run a 17x8 rim on the front with a 5.5" BS. Only problem is the steering arms are going to run into the rim. I have read a few posts that date back to 2008 or earlier that the recipe is to use Z/28 steering arms that are considered the "Short Arms". Does anyone have a need for the Short Arm? I have a good friend that is a precision machinist that will make me a few sets. Its easier and cheaper to have 5-6 sets made than 1 set. Let me know.



      Mason


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      sounds great....and I would be interested....but as long as he is making them shorter, get that car on a rack and measure bumpsteer and akerman so that you machine them to fix some of those issues instead of just short, and then you would have a seller on your hands, are you machining aluminum or steel?

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      Also I'm also using 2" drop spindles with raised steering arm holes and from what I have read that corrects the bump steer issues.

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      They will be made from 7075 and hard coat anodized

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      Quote Originally Posted by Baxtek Fab View Post
      Also I'm also using 2" drop spindles with raised steering arm holes and from what I have read that corrects the bump steer issues.
      ??? which one...and if it fixes bump steer then the short steering arm you make won't be relevant to any without that spindle...

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      here is some comparisons for you.......... I did this early on when designing steering and suspension

      from early testing
      the standard arm has a designed turning radius (thru Ackerman) of rough 110 inches
      the z arms has a designed radi of 106 to make the z quicker in turns
      the Chevelle arm turns in at 118 inches and can make steering sluggish on a 108-inch Camaro




      from this angle you can see the riser differances all pinned at the mounting location



      thse custom built billet arms are designed for a 100 inch turn radius, on another project car I built

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      They are "Just Right Detailing" brand dropped spindles, same as bell tech spindles.

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      Sounds to me like it will be multiple versions. One for stock spindles, another one for JRD/Bell-Tech 2" dropped spindles and then a few more to cover the other brands if they present a different issue.

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      here is a Z arm and a standard arm lined up on a AFX style spindle..








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      let me know if I can help any sounds like a fun project

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      Yes I would like to hear your input. From what I can see from your photos the Z28 spindle is also slightly raised. As well as shorter??

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      With all the great options we have from companies for suspension and steering, I've never understood why one of them hasn't just made a repo of the Z/28 arms.

      I bet they would sell like proverbial hotcakes.

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      Quote Originally Posted by CliffsBlueCamaro View Post
      With all the great options we have from companies for suspension and steering, I've never understood why one of them hasn't just made a repo of the Z/28 arms.

      I bet they would sell like proverbial hotcakes.

      Right!

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      Quote Originally Posted by CliffsBlueCamaro View Post
      With all the great options we have from companies for suspension and steering, I've never understood why one of them hasn't just made a repo of the Z/28 arms.

      I bet they would sell like proverbial hotcakes.
      we will see. we are in the process of designing some for use with the AFX spindle that will also work on a stock spindle. BUT we are going to make it a package with a bump adjustable outer tie rod.
      is that something anyone would be interested in? cost will be in the 550.00 range for 7075 steer arms tie rod sleeve heim joints and hardware
      Blake Foster
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      Quote Originally Posted by killer69 View Post
      we will see. we are in the process of designing some for use with the AFX spindle that will also work on a stock spindle. BUT we are going to make it a package with a bump adjustable outer tie rod.
      is that something anyone would be interested in? cost will be in the 550.00 range for 7075 steer arms tie rod sleeve heim joints and hardware
      I'll call you guys!
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      If I can only convince myself of this!

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      Quote Originally Posted by CliffsBlueCamaro View Post
      With all the great options we have from companies for suspension and steering, I've never understood why one of them hasn't just made a repo of the Z/28 arms.

      I bet they would sell like proverbial hotcakes.
      Chassisworks makes them, although they are not a reproduction in terms of stock looking/construction, but they are a reproduction in terms of geometry. PN: 5755-F10-Z28

      https://www.cachassisworks.com/Attac...5755F10Z28.pdf
      https://www.cachassisworks.com/p-295...-aluminum.aspx
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      Quote Originally Posted by Baxtek Fab View Post
      Yes I would like to hear your input. From what I can see from your photos the Z28 spindle is also slightly raised. As well as shorter??
      yes they are shorter, slightly raised and then the tie rod location is turned in about .250 thousands more

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      CPP reproduced the mid-length arms. They should be 5.5" long. Even the shortest 5.25" arms have clearance issues if you are trying to fit a 9" wheel.
      67 Camaro RS that will be faster than anything Mary owns.

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      I'm interested in a set pm me when u have the details on pricing

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      I am interested also in a set of short arms.

      Thank you.

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