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    1. #1
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      Residual pressure valve for drums

      Not a total disc question but front disc conversion rear drum question for the many brake experts here.

      So having a debate on my Pontiac board about a front disc conversion with keeping the rear drums and if a RPV is needed or is used for drums still. One guy said GM stopped using RPV in 72 but I could swear the difference in the 1 1/8 Disc/drum vs 4WD 79-80 MC was just the RPV for the drums and a different prop valve. I know early GM products with discs like 67-70 ish used a special valve to delay the discs.
      http://www.classicindustries.com/pro...ts/f68691.html

      Trying to find new replacement MC for rear drums with a RPV is getting hard as they all seem to be front and rear no RPV.
      Everything I've read is drums even when the MC is not below brakes like street rods needs a RPV.

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    2. #2
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      All drum brakes require a RPV to keep the cup seals in the wheel cylinders tight against the bore. There are no exceptions to that rule. Sometimes the RPV is in the combination valve.

      If you can not find a master with one, plumb one in.
      Donny

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    3. #3
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      The residual pressure valve on a 1969 Camaro is inline under the drivers seat area. They are also available that connect near the booster, like an add on proportioning valve
      Rick - 1969 Camaro - LS1 driven daily

    4. #4
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      For whatever reason, my car was missing the residual pressure valve. When I plumbed one into my disc/drum combo the pedal feel got exponentially better.

      No exaggeration - it was a night and day difference. This is the one I used.

    5. #5
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      Quote Originally Posted by ccmc View Post
      The residual pressure valve on a 1969 Camaro is inline under the drivers seat area. They are also available that connect near the booster, like an add on proportioning valve
      The valve under the drivers seat on the subframe on a '69 Camaro is a proportioning valve. The residual pressure valve for the disc/drum combo is located in the rear brake port in the MC for the power brakes with the 1 1/8" bore. The barrel shaped valve located just under the MC is a metering valve, or hold off valve, for the front discs. For a more complete description check out the Camaro Research Group website at this link:
      http://camaros.org/brakevalve.shtml
      You should still be able to get a MC with the RPV, or add one as suggested above.

    6. #6
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      Thanks for the clarification!
      Rick - 1969 Camaro - LS1 driven daily

    7. #7
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      Problem seems to be finding a 1" manual GM with rear RPV and a decent recess for the pushrod. It is not hard to pull a RPV out of a manual 4W drum MC.
      1978 Black Trans Am 455 Edelbrock heads [email protected] through mufflers on pump gas
      1981 Trans Am 400 stock type motor
      79 Camaro getting a 500" 695 hp IA2 Pontiac motor
      1965 GTO project car
      470ci/Chevy dual quad 409 604 HP 64 Impala SS project
      2004 Pulse Red GTO

    8. #8
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      Here's a little more information about the RPV.
      I took mine out years ago and have had no problems with my brakes ,
      https://www.pro-touring.com/threads/...inder-Bleeding
      Jeff Tate
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