C6 Brakes

**1bluaddict** · 11-12-2005

I have heard from a source that the C6 Calipers that are coming out this month and rotors will mount up to the C5 brackets. thats 14 inch front and 13.6 rear which would be killer. I was wondering if they will fit my Z06 wheels 18x9.5 and 18x12 and I hope it will work or I might have to go to 19's or 20's. Anyone out there know any thing about this new setup and if they will work, Bluaddict.

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**MrQuick** · 11-12-2005

ahhh its close but workable. You might have to run a small spacer.

Zo6 C6 thread

**Andrew McBride** · 11-13-2005

I would love to know more this as well. I have a complete C5 kit w/ C4 rotors, but if I could upgrade to 6 pistons vs. 2...oh that would be nice addition.

**sinned** · 11-13-2005

A quote from the thread Vince linked to-

I must say that I'm watching this mod very close. GM has a long rich history with warped rotors and if you ever owned a C3, you know this set up with warped rotors will pump air into your brake system.

As more C6 Z06's hit the streets, we will see of these OEM rotors are as good as the C5 aftermarket rotors...

Flame suit on!

Some people need to leave the tech alone, warped rotors pump air into a sealed brake system huh?

**yody** · 11-13-2005

I have a set of these brakes already on order. I have spent some time over at that vette forum, some of the guys know something, but most of them don't...................

**Ralph LoGrasso** · 11-13-2005

Originally Posted by yody

I have a set of these brakes already on order. I have spent some time over at that vette forum, some of the guys know something, but most of them don't...................

Who did you order them from, and what was the cost of everything?

**datsbad** · 11-13-2005

also wondering?

**427v8** · 11-13-2005

Originally Posted by dennis68

A quote from the thread Vince linked to- Some people need to leave the tech alone, warped rotors pump air into a sealed brake system huh?

Yes believe it or not the C3 4 piston brakes will pump air into the system if rotor runout is too large.

Too large is over .010" I think. The seal design has a lip that will roll back and forth on small movements and actually pump air inbehind the seal.

There are replacement O-ring seals that help that problem but they have their own problems.

Remember the brakes were designed in the early 60's and never updated!

Personally I run Wilwood SL4's on my C3..

And yes Yodi is right, some of them over on CF know something many dont!

**ilovefirstgens** · 11-13-2005

haha i love how 90% of those guys just thought they looked cool.

but if they bolt right up to c5 hubs what about the afx spindle... hmm semi cheap huuuge brakes $1600 for the whole gettup dang!

so maybe ill be getting 18s afterall....

**sinned** · 11-13-2005

Originally Posted by 427v8

Yes believe it or not the C3 4 piston brakes will pump air into the system if rotor runout is too large.

Originally Posted by 427v8

Maybe a few very rare cases of OE 30 year old calipers but I have worked on hundreds of C3 vettes over the years with a variety of brake problems and have never seen that. In fact any car with deteriorated lip seals could do the same thing under the right conditions.

Also check that whole thread, a few of those guys have done their homework and you can put together a Wilwood setup for less money...of course it is far less blingy so I'm sure we don't care about that.

**yody** · 11-13-2005

I'm not giving away any secrets..........but the brakes still aren't released, and they will be more than $1,700. You can't put together a cheaper wilwood kit, as the Z06 brakes are about $1,800 front and rear. You will need minimal 18" wheels. But the problem is that they are very wide calipers and require wheels with spokes that are far away from the center of the wheel. I don't think many peoples wheels are going to work with these brakes, unless you run spacers.
Problems with these Z06 brakes
most wheels won't clear without spacers
aluminum pistons transfer heat (opposed to SS pistons)
brake pads are very expensive and aftermarkets aren't out yet, and they are very thin, which also transfers heat, also they get cheese grated by the cross drilled rotors
both front and rear use 2 left hand rotors meaning both of the right rotors are going to be backwards and heat up faster than the left
stock front rotors are 25ilbs!!!!!
2 piece 14" rotors are only about 17-18 pounds but are about $800 for just the fronts
stock pads SUCK. aftermarkets arent' out yet, but expect to pay at least $400 for front and rear.
Good things
6 piston front 4 piston rear monoblock calipers with multi piston pads(20 brake pads all together)
14" front 13.5" rear rotors
looks really cool..........lol
I am buying just the calipers/rotors now, and getting aftermarket pads later. And also later will upgrade the front rotors to 2 piece rotors.

**Ralph LoGrasso** · 11-13-2005

Originally Posted by yody

I'm not giving away any secrets..........but the brakes still aren't released, and they will be more than $1,700. You can't put together a cheaper wilwood kit, as the Z06 brakes are about $1,800 front and rear. You will need minimal 18" wheels. But the problem is that they are very wide calipers and require wheels with spokes that are far away from the center of the wheel. I don't think many peoples wheels are going to work with these brakes, unless you run spacers.
Problems with these Z06 brakes
most wheels won't clear without spacers
aluminum pistons transfer heat (opposed to SS pistons)
brake pads are very expensive and aftermarkets aren't out yet
both front and rear use 2 left hand rotors meaning both of the right rotors are going to be backwards and heat up faster than the left
stock front rotors are 25ilbs!!!!!
2 piece 14" rotors are only about 17-18 pounds but are about $800 for just the fronts
stock pads SUCK. aftermarkets arent' out yet, but expect to pay at least $400 for front and rear.
Good things
6 piston front 4 piston rear monoblock calipers with multi piston pads(20 brake pads all together)
14" front 13.5" rear rotors
looks really cool..........lol
I am buying just the calipers/rotors now, and getting aftermarket pads later. And also later will upgrade the front rotors to 2 piece rotors.

Pretty much everything you just said is in the thread Vince linked to. Nice summary, though. Why can't you post where you bought them from? Send me a PM if you don't want to post it.

**ilovefirstgens** · 11-13-2005

Originally Posted by yody

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both front and rear use 2 left hand rotors meaning both of the right rotors are going to be backwards and heat up faster than the left

wtf???

i didnt read all the posts about theese but why on earth would they sell them with just left rotors?

**yody** · 11-13-2005

actually that info all isn't in that post. But if you do some searching over there all that info is from there. There are like 5 seperate posts about those brakes.

**Ralph LoGrasso** · 11-13-2005

Originally Posted by yody

actually that info all isn't in that post. But if you do some searching over there all that info is from there. There are like 5 seperate posts about those brakes.

I've been keeping an eye on these brakes for a while now, so maybe I've read the info in multiple threads. All I would like to know is where you bought them. It's okay yody, don't worry -- you can still be the first on the block with them. These would be for my 4th gen, and since it's winter I wouldn't be purchasing them anytime soon, not to mention I get factory stuff at dealer cost. Appreciate the info, though.

**yody** · 11-13-2005

Originally Posted by Ralph LoGrasso

I've been keeping an eye on these brakes for a while now, so maybe I've read the info in multiple threads. All I would like to know is where you bought them. It's okay yody, don't worry -- you can still be the first on the block with them. These would be for my 4th gen, and since it's winter I wouldn't be purchasing them anytime soon, not to mention I get factory stuff at dealer cost. Appreciate the info, though.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........................

**Ralph LoGrasso** · 11-13-2005

Originally Posted by yody

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........................

Thanks again!

**yody** · 11-13-2005

Originally Posted by Ralph LoGrasso

I've been keeping an eye on these brakes for a while now, so maybe I've read the info in multiple threads. All I would like to know is where you bought them. It's okay yody, don't worry -- you can still be the first on the block with them. These would be for my 4th gen, and since it's winter I wouldn't be purchasing them anytime soon, not to mention I get factory stuff at dealer cost. Appreciate the info, though.

how much room between your rotor mounting face and the backside of the spokes of your wheels? also the spacing on your back caliper bracket won't be right either, you would most likely have to space out your bracket or caliper.

**Ralph LoGrasso** · 11-13-2005

I've got about 5/8" at the smallest point (closest to center) to about 7/8" at the farthest. There is a lot of room there due to the design of my wheels. The spokes cup outwards. I'd need custom brackets either way.

**yody** · 11-13-2005

Not sure where your measurements are from, if that is from the caliper that might be enough room, if that is from the rotor face, that proabably isn't enough clearance, PM sent, you sore loser LOL

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