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    1. #1
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      64 Chevelle Build - Semi Schwartz Chassis

      After struggling with a very bad Sch****z chassis where nothing fit, I finally have it permanently mounted in my car. For something that was supposed to be plug and play, not one thing was correct on the chassis. From the steering, control arms, shock mounts to motor mounts and the chassis even hit the body. This took me an extra year+ to get to this point. This was AFTER the car was painted.....I had posted something last year and Mr Sch****z asked me to take it down and they would help me. The instant I took it down, is the instant they stopped talking......But, it is over and done with.........

      grr

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    2. #2
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      Very nice love early chevelles. Sorry you had a bad time with the frame fitment. Keep us posted will be following
      DEMONIC OBSIDIAN
      1965 Chevelle lt1 gen v /T56 project.

    3. #3
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      More Incompetence

      More Schxxxxz incompetence - 2 more things to add to the long list -
      Due to me having to literally have to cut the rear section from the frame and remake the kick-ups so the frame will mount to the car I am just getting around to mounting the front suspension.

      I bought Wilwood brake adapters directly from them about 5 months ago. There is about 1/8" milled from the mounting face so the radial calipers fit with a minimum of adjusting and spacers.

      They milled one correctly, but not the other. Once again, no double checking to see if these will actually work as intended.

      As you can see, one is correct, but they've milled the notch from the wrong side on the other. Now, I have to take this somewhere and have it fixed correctly.

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      In this picture, the mounting screw for the clevis interferes with the steering/lower ball joint mounting arm when the suspension is in droop. That is extra nice as you are trying to turn into a corner and the steering gets hung up on a suspension bolt. I even used a button head scrw to help the problem.

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    4. #4
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      If you put the shock in does the suspension droop that far?

    5. #5
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      Quote Originally Posted by marolf101x View Post
      If you put the shock in does the suspension droop that far?
      That is at a little less than 2" of droop and there is about 2-1/4" to go. While it may never get that far down, it is the point that it can interfere and everyone knows if something can go wrong, it will.....

      More Schxxxtz fun - Frame didn't fit under the car, so I had to cut the back half off and repair the kick-ups so they would clear the trunk pan. By cutting the kick-ups off, the shock mounts came with them. So, I put a cross brace thru the frame to mount the shocks......

      First picture is where the frame hit the pan - Please note, this was a totally rust free car and no panels were replaced or not even a patch was added last year when it was painted.
      Second pic is how I did the kickup
      Third is the cross tube for the shocks..
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    6. #6
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      First time on the ground with new chassis.......Been about 6 months on jackstands getting everything to fit correctly....

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    7. #7
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      You bought the chassis used, do you know that it is designed for your car?

    8. #8
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      Quote Originally Posted by Peter Mc Mahon View Post
      You bought the chassis used, do you know that it is designed for your car?
      ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!! I sort of resent you asking such a rudimentary question of me. Do you know who I bought it from?

      But, to answer your question,
      First: I wouldn't have complained about anything if it was for something like a Plymouth or even an Impala and I was trying to adapt it to my
      car.

      Second: it wasn't cheap by any stretch of the imagination.

      Third: I bought it from a well known person who had nothing to gain by lying to me except for ruining his reputation. It had never been assembled
      and was never under a car body, which is pretty obvious since it wouldn't even fit. I have never mentioned who I bought it from because I've
      never blamed him for an instant and don't want anyone bad mouthing him. To me, even though it was 'Second Hand' it was really still brand
      new.

      Fourth: I have nothing to gain or lose. I am 65 and still HAVE to work between 55 and 60 hours per week at a regular company in Michigan. I bought
      this chassis 1-1/2 years ago thinking it would be a plug and play, more or less. I know what is involved with assembling cars from scratch,
      since I've assembled many race cars from just a pile of parts. But, I didn't think they would be this much fabrication involved with something
      that is supposed to work out of the box and I am not a fabricator whatsoever. While it hasn't cost much additional money, it has cost me more
      than a year in time, which I may or may not have a lot of that left to enjoy something like this left at my age.

      Fifth: Even the manufacturer admits it was for my year Chevelle.

      I was just very disappointed in the fit and customer service when I was asking for help. Hope that clears up any mis-information.......grr

    9. #9
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      Whoa, just a question not an accusation. Thanks anyways.

    10. #10
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      OK yeah I say relax on buying Peter's head off ....on to the main issue I am absolutely floored that something like that came from them. I'd tell them your putting the original post back up until they make things right
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    11. #11
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      Quote Originally Posted by raustinss View Post
      OK yeah I say relax on buying Peter's head off ....on to the main issue I am absolutely floored that something like that came from them. I'd tell them your putting the original post back up until they make things right
      Well, sorry about being so harsh, but it seems like sometimes I am the bad guy and I am not. This just is a sensitive subject to me and like I said, I've literally wasted an entire year futzing with this...

      I was told that this was an early chassis and there were some problems with it. I was OKay with that and I did ask for help and information as to what was wrong with it. I was told exactly nothing, zip, zero and zilch.

      Everyone needs to also understand, I've never asked for anything free, just information and help as to what else needed to be fixed on one of these early chassis. When I realized the rear cross bar was in the wrong location and missing the bumper and license plate brackets, I contacted them so I could buy them and they said it would be about 2 weeks before they could have something made up. I waited more than a month without hearing anything so I finally made up the brackets myself. Once again, I was going to buy the brackets, but the customer service was lacking. Downhill from there...

      grr

    12. #12
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      Got My Penske Double Adjustable Racing Shocks Installed...






    13. #13
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      Starting To Do Final Assembly, Finally!

      Starting to do final assembly, Finally!
      Firewall pad is in
      Carpeting is about 50% done. It is cut to size, but seats and belts aren't cut in yet.
      Steering column is in...
      Put a collapsible steering shaft to the rack...
      Heater Box is in...
      Hydro-boost is hooked up
      Dual Master Cylinders are in...
      Started wiring - What a mess...










    14. #14
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      Bummer about the chassis, awesome you are forging ahead, looking goood!

    15. #15
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      A little further

      The intake, carb and valve covers are from my 72 Z/28 that I sold around 1980......




    16. #16
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      Looking Good !! Glad you are moving forward !!

    17. #17
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      After 1-1/2 years I can nearly see the finish line....Some header and exhaust pics at a shop...The header guy took my existing headers completely apart and gave me more clearance to run the plug wires underneath the headers and shortened them a bit so they wouldn't hang down so far. Now the headers and exhaust are close to bottom of the car and won't hit the ground...He had to extensively modify the mufflers and also make a removable crossmember

      The headers are now off to powdercoat...















      Then took the car to the guy who painted the car to have him install the front end sheet metal. I don't trust myself to do this and I am all by myself, so I don't have help, either...







      Headers are out being powdercoated....

    18. #18
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      Looks like you are making solid progress now! Hope things keep moving forward with no surprises

    19. #19
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      Wow what a change from the last post . Looking good as always !!

    20. #20
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      Car is Home

      Car is home....

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