EBC Green Yellow Red

[rohrt]

I current just have some cheap pads from the parts store on my 68 bird. System is basically a stock 69 brake setup that is all new. My issue is lots of brake dust and what sounds like the ware indicator squealing intermittently at light cruise speed 15-35mph or so.

Was considering upgrading pads. The consensus I got was the EBC are much better then the Hawk pads. Just a $$$$ ton more expensive.

Further reading made it sound like the Red pads worked even better then the Yellow pads for normal driving. All the reading has left me numb on the different friction material and the conflicting testimonials.

This is 99% street driven and I beat the hell out of it from time to time.


Is this one of those time where it good to just spend the $80+ buck on the EBCReds and not look back or is this just over kill for a mostly street driven car?

Another question that I could not find an answer to is if I brake in the pads on my current rotors and they ware out or warp would I still be able to brake them in on another set or rotors if I upgraded?

[Apogee]

The green will be the lowest dust/noise option, but also the lowest performance with respect to temperature range and CoF. Red would be a decent option for moderately aggressive street use, but will dust more than the green and has some added potential for noise. While not as aggro as the Yellow's, they work very well for their intended purpose, especially if you run power brakes. The Yellowstuff is the way to go if you run manual brakes and/or like an aggressive pad with a moderately high initial bite, but will dust more and make more noise. Though it's more civil than the Hawk HP Plus, it's also much more expensive.

The EBC compounds will interchange without the need to resurface the rotors since they use similar friction materials, however always follow the manufactures recommendations when swapping pads, especially if you're moving from a ceramic base to say a semi-metallic base. If I understand your question correctly, you can break-in any set of pads on as many sets of rotors as you like, you just won't have the proprietary EBC coating that helps aid the bedding-in process after the first time.

Tobin
KORE3

[1989GTA]

I am running the EBC reds on my 1965 Skylark. I have power brakes and so far so good. They get a thumbs up from me. By the way I do 99.9% street driving with an occasional trip down the 1/4 mile.

[rohrt]

This car is 95% easy cruising. From your description of the Greens it sounds like it might be the better option then my Autozone special I have now.

I assume the Green pads are still a step up from a stock replacement pad? My main concern is dust and noise then anything else. The Reds are tempting but the price is up there.

[TheJDMan]

Not sure what your current pads are but if they are semi-metalic or organic they will create a good deal of dust. If you go to the parts store and specify Ceramic pads you will have much less dusting.

[Mizzouri]

I have the Yellows on my 2000 TA and they are way better than than the Hawk Street pads I was running. The most noticeable difference being the brake fade....the yellows resist fade much much better than my old Hawk Street pads while giving better bite as well. As far as noise goes they are quieter than the Hawk + pads and to me are entirely streetable. They do generate a fair amount of dust but that makes no difference to me.

[rohrt]

The current stock pads i have now were purchased over 10 years ago. I don't recall what they are. Sad part is I only have 3K miles on the car. But after 100 miles the trim rings and rim will be black.

What through me off was one website said the Green stuff pads material were organic material. I thought the organic pad were the worst for dust coverage. Another site said they they are semi-matalic material. I have no experience with performance brake pads, thus why I wanted some first hand accounts.

I think Tobin has warped it up for me. If the Green pad are least dust and most quite then I will sacrifice the added performance that Red pad might have.


Assuming the information on this site is accurate.
http://www.autoanything.com/Compare/...0A50677A1.aspx
Green = Semi-Metallic
Red = Ceramic
Yellow= Aramid Fibre

Green pads for my car = $67.41+shipping from Summit Racing.

[1989GTA]

Let me add that the Red pads on my car are showing very little dust.

[Apogee]

I misspoke before, as I was mistaken about the Greenstuff's being ceramic, they're not. The Greenstuff family of pads is an Non-Asbestos Organic (NAO) pad compound with aramid fibers (Dupont Kevlar or Twaron), Average CoF = .40 and moderate dusting levels.

The Redstuff are a ceramic compound and geared towards lower dust, though they're technically a more aggressive compound pad (Average CoF = .48), so these may be your best choice for your use.

[rohrt]

Thanks for the follow up Tobin. Red stuff it is.

[vannatta20]

I work as the tech support at EBC brakes and everything Apogee said is dead on!

I misspoke before, as I was mistaken about the Greenstuff's being ceramic, they're not. The Greenstuff family of pads is an Non-Asbestos Organic (NAO) pad compound with aramid fibers (Dupont Kevlar or Twaron), Average CoF = .40 and moderate dusting levels.

The Redstuff are a ceramic compound and geared towards lower dust, though they're technically a more aggressive compound pad (Average CoF = .48), so these may be your best choice for your use.

[rohrt]

Your late to the party but I'm getting there. I discovered a preload from the booster pin to the MC that I'm dealing with now. I want to fix that before I ruin a new set of rotors. Hope to report back soon.

[rixtrix1]

You might want to take a large pair of pliers and try to bend that little tab that folds over the top of the caliper so the pad doesn't have so much room to move around , causing squealing.