Project Barnyard Budget AXS10

[ArtosDracon]

Im building a narrowed G Body musclebar in .375 for this one. Are we building the .375 for you or someone else ?

What diameter? The factory ZQ8/Blazer front bar will drop right on a first gen and give you 1-1/4" solid bar. If you do the same OD, and the arms are the same length, it'll be a touch less stiff than the stocker which are CHEAP. Unless yours will be adjustable, then hands down, I'm on board.

[SSLance]

You are building it for me... How's it coming along anyway? :D

[BigMikeIndy]

I can check on it, which rep is handling it?

[SSLance]

I can check on it, which rep is handling it?

Well, I'm not sure. Ron Sutton ordered it through the normal channels as I recall because somebody was on vacation that week.

Think it was ordered around 04/21/2015.

[BigMikeIndy]

Getting close to being up to date. This was the morning I started assembling the front suspension.



Its currently mocked up at drive hight with som T channel in the coilovers position at ride height.





You can also see the Ballard Brothers brake conversion brackets that will be used for this set of C5Z brakes I scored from Bruce Raymond at Raymond's Performance.

[SSLance]

Are those metric spindles and if so, what are you going to use for a hub?

Front suspension looks nice and those brakes should work very well for you.

You measured and optimized the LCA mounting points before making the frame beautiful...right?

[BigMikeIndy]

Are those metric spindles and if so, what are you going to use for a hub?

Front suspension looks nice and those brakes should work very well for you.

You measured and optimized the LCA mounting points before making the frame beautiful...right?

Spindles are ridetech 2" drop spindles to get the truck down farther than the cars. Took the stock rotors and turned them down to accept the c5 rotors. Just ordered a set of arp studs for front today.

Tell me more about this optimizing mounts.... Thats the finest spray can black Walmart offers! knowing I have plenty to learn I wasnt about to powdercoat this thing.

[SSLance]

Start about halfway down this page... You might want to pack a lunch though, it's a lot of reading.

https://www.pro-touring.com/threads/...hing-out/page3

I can tell you one thing, my LCA mounts were off from the factory...and by using Ron's methods to correct (and improve) them...it made a HUGE difference in how my front suspension handles. Yours will be easier to measure as you have easy access to everything right now.

[BigMikeIndy]

Start about halfway down this page... You might want to pack a lunch though, it's a lot of reading.

https://www.pro-touring.com/threads/...hing-out/page3

I can tell you one thing, my LCA mounts were off from the factory...and by using Ron's methods to correct (and improve) them...it made a HUGE difference in how my front suspension handles. Yours will be easier to measure as you have easy access to everything right now.

And I now I have weekend plans... :-)

[SSLance]

I had some extra time and read back through the thread myself this afternoon...tons of good info dished out in there.

Let me know if you have any questions when you dive in.

[brawls43]

Can't wait to see more of this truck. Love S-10's and Rangers!

[chevymike]

Cute puppy!!!!

[BigMikeIndy]

Cute puppy!!!!

Im kinda fond of him....

[SSLance]

I don't see any bearings on those axles yet...which bearing setup did you order axles for?

[BigMikeIndy]

I don't see any bearings on those axles yet...which bearing setup did you order axles for?

They were already en route when you mentioned the A20. I just told them what I was building and its purpose and they sent the sealed ball bearings. I don't forsee this ever being a long track truck (aero lacking), and when I asked them about the A20s they said "I would only use it in a “road race” application like mid Ohio or road Atlanta. Normally you would use a sealed ball bearing in a street application." The issue will be brake knock back correct? At this point gettign the rear suspension fabbed up becomes the next project. If it becomes a larger issue down the road I will probably look into just making it a full floater.

[SSLance]

They were already en route when you mentioned the A20. I just told them what I was building and its purpose and they sent the sealed ball bearings. I don't forsee this ever being a long track truck (aero lacking), and when I asked them about the A20s they said "I would only use it in a “road race” application like mid Ohio or road Atlanta. Normally you would use a sealed ball bearing in a street application." The issue will be brake knock back correct? At this point gettign the rear suspension fabbed up becomes the next project. If it becomes a larger issue down the road I will probably look into just making it a full floater.

I went through three sets of sealed ball bearing bearings in the last twelve months on my car. The side loads I'm putting on them while autocrossing just kill them. They are built for rolling forward only, not side loads. What happens is when they start to wear, they get looseness in them and then start to vibrate at highway speeds. I HATE vibrations... Took me a while to chase it down the first time as I had just replaced all of the bearings and didn't check them when it started to vibrate. It's old school to me now, I can tell right away when they begin to go out.

Hopefully the A20s will last me longer...we'll see if I ever get the chance to race the car again this year.

The axles the A20s go on are a bit larger diameter than the sealed bearings, so you'll need different axles if you want to upgrade. Personally, if you plan on autocrossing the truck, I'd make that switch now before you press the new sealed bearings on these axles.

[BigMikeIndy]

I went through three sets of sealed ball bearing bearings in the last twelve months on my car. The side loads I'm putting on them while autocrossing just kill them.

So your issue was more wear than brakes?

[SSLance]

So your issue was more wear than brakes?

This is what happens to them...this particular bearing only had about 150 miles on it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTVeoQqdFuw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfeeUsZrYjQ


Usually I'd get 3-4 months out of them or 20-30 autocross runs...before they'd start to fail.

[BADNBLK]

Love the Sdimes! Can't wait to see the progress

[Ben@SpeedTech]

Subscribed. I'd been bugging Blake for a while ;) to get those G Body Chicane brackets made up, and when I switched to coilovers we worked them out on my car. Really glad to see they fit the S10 frame too! I know of a local 1st gen S10 that's super dusty and buried under a bunch of junk in a car port just waiting for me to go bug the owner to let me have it, so I'll be following along to see how yours turns out.