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    Thread: 67 Bel Air

    1. #1
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      67 Bel Air

      I bought this car from my brother, who just lost interest in it after doing all of the hard work. When he got it about ten years ago it was a rust free southern car with a healthy 454. He drove it off and on for a couple years and then decided to paint it. The body came off the frame, and everything was refinished. Frame blasted and painted.Body stripped down to bare metal and refinished with House Of Kolor start to finish. The suspension was assembled with alot of Hotchkis parts. And that is when progress came to a halt. It sat in his garage for 5 years like this. I bought it a year and a half ago, and am just now getting started on it. Here is what we are starting with. I almost feel like I am cheating, starting with something this nice that has alot of blood and sweat stuck into it already!
      So far I have fit a ls in the car with a t56 trans. I am working on getting some ls1 brakes on it. I will need a pair of hubs from Kore 3 to make it work. stay tuned, more pics to follow!
      this shot with bags aired up




      and down








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      Awesome, great head start. Lots of info on forums like this, I'm dropping in a LS2 right now in a 61 Bel Air, if you have any questions just ask.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jon69RagTop View Post
      Awesome, great head start. Lots of info on forums like this, I'm dropping in a LS2 right now in a 61 Bel Air, if you have any questions just ask.
      Thanks Jon, I might hold you to that

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      In order to get the T56 in the tunnel, I had to massage some of the tunnel. a couple spots right above the access plate on the trans, and this spot in the pic. The dark area is the metal that I used an air impact hammer on. I prefer this method to cutting and welding any day

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      I decided to move the engine back closer to the firewall, this will give me room to work with the radiator. this pic shows the plates I used to set back the mounts


      after trimming


      and the next two pics shows how far back I moved the mount. First pic is stock location, second is where I put it.



      And with the engine in, this shot shows the distance to the firewall

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      I am able to use the original crossmember, and locate it in the original spot, but I had to modify the center mount for the trans.



      This shot shows the front of the oil pan to the crossmember. I already cut the bump out of the passenger side of the pan because it would be touching the frame

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      This is a truck pan, so like everyone else that uses them, the hang down too low. I did try an F body pan, but since these B body cars have all of the steering behind the crossmember, that pan would have needed to be cut also, so the truck pan is what I will use.

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      I cut the bottom of the pan off with a cut off wheel, and then took the mill to it so I have a nice clean and flat surface to weld to. I will have to round up some 1/4 inch plate for the bottom. Im not sure how I will configure the drain plug yet,I will give that some thought.This pic also shows the area at the front of the pan that I cut out for clearance on the crossmember.

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      I'll definitely be following this build... My '67 Impala needs lot of modernization when it comes to suspension and braking. Car should be lots of fun. Is it a stock LS going in?

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      Quote Originally Posted by rose jackets67 View Post
      I'll definitely be following this build... My '67 Impala needs lot of modernization when it comes to suspension and braking. Car should be lots of fun. Is it a stock LS going in?
      Yes, I will be using an engine out of a 2000 camaro SS, and just keeping it on the tame side for now. I bought this car wrecked for 3500$, had 80,000 on the odometer. I kept all the brakes and rotors that I will use on the Bel Air. Kept the seats and door panels, and of course the engine and 6 speed trans. I sold the body for a good price, and sold the seats, so i did ok.
      This is what the camaro looked like when I got it. Had a light front hit. Car drove down the road just fine, but it had a junk title.

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      that'll be a cool car with an LS, and I love the silver color.

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      Love it. Keep the pics coming! I'm curious to see how your oil pan turns out. You are going to mod the pickup tube as well right?
      My 65' Impala SS
      6.2 L L92
      4L80E
      13" Disc Brakes
      18/20 Wheels

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      Quote Originally Posted by nicke View Post
      Love it. Keep the pics coming! I'm curious to see haw your oil pan turns out. You are going to mod the pickup tube as well right?
      Yes, pickup tube has been cut down. I had installed the pan, but today I removed it and took some pics for you



      So I ended up welding a piece of 3/16" on the bottom of pan. Then I made this little "thimble" to weld to the pan to use as the drain plug bung. I will tap it so I can use the factory drain plug.

      Here is the bung welded to the bottom of the pan


      And here is the pan all welded. I will grind the weld down when I prep the engine for paint, but for now it will remain like this

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      Nice work! That looks fantastic! I'll be following this thread for sure!
      -Nick
      My 65' Impala SS
      6.2 L L92
      4L80E
      13" Disc Brakes
      18/20 Wheels

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      Ok had some time today to work on this car. I put the engine and trans in. Dont worry, once I figure out how to mount everything it will be pulled out, cleaned up and painted.

      Once the engine was sitting on the frame, I determined what material had to be removed from the crossmember to clear the alternator on the drivers side and the a/c compressor on the passenger side.


      And with the pieces removed


      And now I have room to bolt up the alternator

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      Side views of engine. I have alot of room for headers from what I can see. Not sure what I am going to go with. I have seen some other build threads where guysd are using camaro headers. I will have to check that out.



      And this shot shows how the modified oil pan now looks in the car, and it doesnt hang down below the cross member anymore

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      I have been working on getting the a/c compressor to fit in the lower passenger side of the engine compartment. To do this, I had to relocate the compressor farther forward from the original mounting place. Instead of running the a/c pulley off the factory a/c serpentine drive groove that is closest to the engine, I moved it out farther, and added another serp. groove to the outside of the pulley. I took a truck balancer, and cut the a/c serpentine groove off. After truing up on the lathe and cutting on the mill, I drilled 12 holes in it with countersinks for some small socket head cap screws. This pic. shows this piece bolted up to the original balancer


      I milled up some aluminum brackets to mount the a/c compressor. These are just my "prototypes", they will look much better when I make a new set on the cnc.




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      I mounted the belt tensioner down low. I had to make a new smaller diameter pulley for it because there is less room between compressor and crank pulley.The factory pulley just wouldnt fit. I still need to find a belt that will fit.


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      Nice work. Go ahead and buy some headers and tell me what works, so I can copy you ;-)
      My 65' Impala SS
      6.2 L L92
      4L80E
      13" Disc Brakes
      18/20 Wheels

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      Quote Originally Posted by nicke View Post
      Nice work. Go ahead and buy some headers and tell me what works, so I can copy you ;-)
      MMM headers. I'm not sure what I will do with that yet, time to start looking for something.


      I will be running a new corvette ls3 water pump. I think they look so much better then the ls1 style, and the upper radiator hose doesnt need to be routed across the pulley. here is a front shot of it mounted on the engine


      The corvette pump pulley sits closer to the engine by 3/4 of an inch, so i had to mill a pair of spacers to bring it out to line up with the rest of the ls1 pulleys.


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