Project "TTTA"

[CCC]

Wow. Would this fit a 71 Camaro? Is this the ULTIMATE setup? I am trying to plan a build for my camaro now. I am just starting out so please be paitient with my newbie questions.

[ProdigyCustoms]

Wow. Would this fit a 71 Camaro? Is this the ULTIMATE setup? I am trying to plan a build for my camaro now. I am just starting out so please be paitient with my newbie questions.

Yes it will , but it is a true back half job to do it.

[ProdigyCustoms]

So the TTTA is headed to Fletcher's Customs. The change in suspension plans is pushing the TTTA project into a schedule funnel at Prodigy Customs. We were originally doing just sheetmetal and suspension, but Doug now wants someone to take the project all the way. Doug is super anxious to get the car done ASAP and the project has snowballed into a monster (a really cool monster) and we simply will not be able to fit a full build of this magnitude into Doug's schedule without disrupting the other 20 projects on the schedule.

And since my buddy Chad just finished shaking out the Freedom Bird and since he has some time on his hands for a one on one project, he can probably have the entire build done by the end of the year. So it works perfect for everyone for Chad to take this one over.

So Prodigy is still very involved as consultants and parts suppliers. We support the project 100%. We can't wait to see the project finished. We know Chad will do a hell of a job!

[Doug1]

Thanks to both Frank and Chad for helping me out on this. I should have named this project "scope creep" because the project does seem to have grown exponentially from some bolt in stuff to one that invloves cutting the car up pretty good.

It should be one of a kind if nothing else :-)

[fletcherscustoms]

We just did a 12 hour turn-and-burn from my place in South GA down to Frank's in Orlando. The car is now safely back at my shop... More pics and details coming soon... I'm headed to bed.

This project is a true definition of what two friends and two builders in the industry working together can do! The car and Doug's plans just got to be a little more than Frank's schedule would allow... And the car has taken on an extremely cool life of its own! And that's where Fletcher's Customs comes in; having wrapped up FreedomBird and my Camaro basically done we had some free space and time, something that Frank did not have with his shop and schedule full of cars.

Frank, myself and Doug all came to a mutual decision for me to take on the project and take it a little further. Since bringing the home we hired Ben Hermance with Hermance Design to do the official rendering! We are shooting for the baddest 78 T/A on the planet! Look for the use of some carbon fiber, custom body mods, and some other cool tricks we've got in the works to make this the best handling and by far best looking and BADDEST T/A ON THE PLANET!!

A LOT more details coming in the near future. This has all happened pretty quickly so there's still a ton of details to get worked out...

[cdoggy81]

Looking forward to seeing another 2nd gen f-body (specially a Pontiac) project come to life!

[fletcherscustoms]

The Custom Art Morrison 5 link rear suspension. This is the second one built my good buddy Frank at Prodigy Customs did the design and work with Art Morrison to make this a reality. He is installing the #1 unit into his 69 Camaro Project "Unfair". This will be the first one to be built for a 2nd gen F-body.

Couple of answers to questions I know will come up

-Removal of certain bars allows for different setups for road racing and drag racing

-That right there is a true no compromise road race 3 link set up when the upper outer bars are removed. That is also a true no compromise Drag Race 4 link (just like a Pro Stocker) when the upper center bar is removed! Quite honestly this is one of those things that is right in front of you no one saw it!

-A car with the ability to quickly (few hours) transform from a great autocross / road race car to a great drag car by moving some stuff around and swapping some easy to change Components (Read more later). The idea was for a suspension system with massive adjust ability.

-Does the car have to be Back halfed?- yes it does, you must remove rear rails, floors, etc. All will have to be fabricated once rear clip is installed. The first gen piece will not be back half job, only require removing rear frame rails and re welding new rail that are formed to fit factory floor.

-How big a tire can this handle? More then a notched factory frame as long as you do not use pre packaged tubs. The outer frame rails are 1" more narrow then the narrowest possible frame width with thinnest factory frame rail notch one can do. And what is so cool is you not only keep a full rail where you normally notch, but you have a stronger rail also. Our drag tires will be 345 / 35 / 18 Drag Radials with a section around 14.5"! So we will be making bigger mini tubs

These are pics of the rear clip for "Project Unfair" that Prodigy Customs is building

[LeighP]

Thats a sweet piece of engineering...I love that stuff, its one of the things that attracts me to Pro-Touring.
I've been following Doug's build at Trans Am Country....can't wait to see it all happen.

If this is going all out, perhaps you could convince Anvil to do a carbon fiber 77/78 nose panel. I know there is a need for a good, straight fitting glass or carbon fiber nose for these year cars.

Nice to see more 2nd gens getting the PT treatment.

[fletcherscustoms]

We have the hood coming as well thanks to Albert and Carbon Kustoms. Still trying to see what we can do on the nose

[Doug1]

You can get a fiberglass nose for a 78 from Year One. They developed it for the BRE Trans Am. I bought one a year or 2 ago and stuck it in storage in case I wanted it for this build.

Thats a sweet piece of engineering...I love that stuff, its one of the things that attracts me to Pro-Touring.
I've been following Doug's build at Trans Am Country....can't wait to see it all happen.

If this is going all out, perhaps you could convince Anvil to do a carbon fiber 77/78 nose panel. I know there is a need for a good, straight fitting glass or carbon fiber nose for these year cars.

Nice to see more 2nd gens getting the PT treatment.

[srh3trinity]

What are the lengths of the upper third link and the lower two links? I realize that those photos may be from Unfair. If that is true, I will stand by until you get a little further in the build.

[cdoggy81]

I know VFN makes a 79-81 front. They may even do a 77-78 as well...

[fletcherscustoms]

year one has the 77-78 Fiberglass nose section on there site. WE will be using that coupled with the Carbon Fenders, hood, and shaker. Should remove a good bit of weight off the front of the car

[LeighP]

I've heard mixed reviews of both the VFN nose and hte Year One nose...which surprised me as at least the YO nose looked to be a much better finished part. Both different builders wound up modifying their noses to fit.
I have no personal experience with either part....when I owned a 77 T/A I was planning on buying the YO nose for when it was going to be painted....but now I'm a 71 owner.

[fletcherscustoms]

any links to the issues with the YO nose?

[LeighP]

Would have been a project car on either
www.transamcountry.com or
www.performanceyears.com
Not sure which.
Sorry I can't be of more help than that....I'll go have a look and see if I can find anything.

[LeighP]

I found the guy with the poor VFN nose on TAC, but couldn't find the other guy working with the YO nose...sorry.

[fletcherscustoms]

no problem I am searching also

[fletcherscustoms]

WE are in a holding pattern waiting on the parts to start showing up. WE are delivering a project this weekend and clearing the way for "TTTA" to come into its new home. Over the next couple of week while we are waiting we will be doing some minor things like shaving and smoothing firewall, starting some rust repair, and getting her on the custom built jig we are designing and building now.

Ben hermance has got some very trick things designed for the project that will surely cement this car as the baddest 78 T/A on the planet

[Doug1]

We now have the rendering.