Project TechnoStang 66 Mustang Coupe

[Crestronwizard]

Well, this is what I have to start with. Named it project TechnoStang because I plan to incorporate a lot of technology into this buildcentered around an in dash touchscreen (automation control is my day job). This will be used purely as a street car and any ideas are welcome.


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[Ratty 46]

I'll be watching .... your day job should lend to this build with some kewl upgrades.

Ratt 46

[Bryce]

welcome!

[CruizinKev]

nice project! good luck! :twothumbs

[Crestronwizard]

I guess this is progress :-). Neighbors stopped by so I put em to work! My oldest son , Jake, helped a lot. Front end and all exterior chrome, etc is next.

[72mach1]

Look forward to seeing where you decide to take it.

[Crestronwizard]

Nothing earth shattering to show but the easy part is almost done.

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[Crestronwizard]

Car is stripped. Need someone that does bead blasting in NC. Any suggestions?

[Fast68back]

Cool project!

[Crestronwizard]

Some updates today........I ran across a 2004 Aluminum block 4.6L and a set of 4V heads so looks like I will be going the modular route. I will need a rotating assembly for it and recommendations are welcome. I will most likely put a turbo on it. Also talked to a body shop so may get it in sooner than I thought.

[chunger]

Some updates today........I ran across a 2004 Aluminum block 4.6L and a set of 4V heads so looks like I will be going the modular route. I will need a rotating assembly for it and recommendations are welcome. I will most likely put a turbo on it. Also talked to a body shop so may get it in sooner than I thought.

So I take it you're planning on something big for the front end of this car? Tube frame?

[Wesley J]

Nice. I'm going the same route, 4.6L 4V. I've been wanting to add a turbo as well but have decided against it due to packaging. My car ('67) is significantly wider and I'm going with a tubular front end w/struts. I'll be interested to see what front end you go with and how you package the turbo.

I am leaving my options open though. I'm planning for a ~400 HP NA motor at about 10:1 so I'm still open for some pressurizing. These motors run cool and have such good heads that you can easily throw 15 psi at them at 10:1 with out issue.

I look forward to the build!

Cheers,

Wes

[Wesley J]

Oh ya, rotating assembly: I went with used cobra stuff. The forged crank (96-98, 03-04) is supposed to be good to 900HP and 8500 rpm. The 03/04 cobra rods are Manley H beams good to similar power levels (96-98 cobra rods are junk). They can be had used for $200-300 each.

Not sure what you know about mod motors but stay away from the B heads if you can, you cant find intakes very easily.

Cheers,

Wes

[Crestronwizard]

Yes, exploring options now but regardless the shock towers are coming out :-). Thanks for the tips on the crank and rods and heads.

[cobraguy65]

Nice project! I am also a fan of the 4V engine. They are very efficient at making power. Mine has dynoed over 500 hp NA. As Chunger illuded to, Its a wide engine due to the double overhead cam design. This will require you to remove the shock towers. There are several manufactures on this board that can help. I would start by looking here www.totalcostinvolved.com/mustangf&r_intro.cfm

[Crestronwizard]

Put Jake to work and did some de-greasing. Car smells less musty now :-). Picking up the 32V 4.6 tomorrow. I really need some suggestions for the front and rear suspension. Been browsing posts and the TCI looks pretty good......
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[2blownstangs]

nice project there man. Kinda strange that I'm selling my 3V 4.6 on the cheap too. Keep us posted on the build. I would go AirRide on that baby!

[racedaddy]

nice project there man. Kinda strange that I'm selling my 3V 4.6 on the cheap too. Keep us posted on the build. I would go AirRide on that baby!

pm me with a price for the 4.6 and some more info on it

[BulldawgMusclecars]

Nice project! I have 3 customer Mustangs in the shop right now (a '66 gt coupe, a '67 "Gt500E" convertible, and a '65 fastback that is getting the R-model treatment). None are getting mod motors unfortuantely...I've been itching to do one.

[Crestronwizard]

I am looking at RideTech's system. Anyone done one on a Mustang? Pro's and Con's?

[Crestronwizard]

Nice project! I am also a fan of the 4V engine. They are very efficient at making power. Mine has dynoed over 500 hp NA. As Chunger illuded to, Its a wide engine due to the double overhead cam design. This will require you to remove the shock towers. There are several manufactures on this board that can help. I would start by looking here www.totalcostinvolved.com/mustangf&r_intro.cfm

Thanks! I emailed them for some info.

[Crestronwizard]

Picked up the engine today

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[Crestronwizard]

Finally did something today. Yanked the fuelie 302 and AOD out. What a mess :-). Almost bodywork time. Dropping off 32valve mod motor at machine shop tomorrow. Should get interesting soon.

[chunger]

You're not going to fab it up first? Just going straight into the rebuild?

[Crestronwizard]

You're not going to fab it up first? Just going straight into the rebuild?

Lot's of work to do before I get into changing out the suspension and being ready for the engine. Might as well go ahead and have the machine work being done. Have to multi task to get these things done!

[Wesley J]

Nice build. I'm working on a similar project and I hope to be placing my 4.6 4V/3650 in this weekend for mockup for mounts.

[Crestronwizard]

Nice build. I'm working on a similar project and I hope to be placing my 4.6 4V/3650 in this weekend for mockup for mounts.

Hi Wes..........I am following your build. I plan to check out your build when I am up in Calgary around May.

[Wesley J]

Hi Wes..........I am following your build. I plan to check out your build when I am up in Calgary around May.

I look foward to it. You mentioned a touchscreen early on and I'm guessing you're a wizard at programming Crestron gear, LOL. You're not actually integrating Crestron stuff into the car are you? I'm a Home Theatre guy, used to do some PC based control stuff, now I'm using my iPad for the HT control and whole house audio but I digress...

I'm looking at a mobile PC/touch screen for controlling the Megasquirt3 thats going in so I'm interested to hear your thoughts.

Cheers,

Wes

[Crestronwizard]

I look foward to it. You mentioned a touchscreen early on and I'm guessing you're a wizard at programming Crestron gear, LOL. You're not actually integrating Crestron stuff into the car are you? I'm a Home Theatre guy, used to do some PC based control stuff, now I'm using my iPad for the HT and whole house audio but I digress...

I'm looking at a mobile PC/touch screen for controlling the Megasquirt3 thats going in so I'm interested to hear your thoughts.

Cheers,

Wes

I am going to be integrating Crestron into the car :-). I am leaning towards an iPad built in that controls the windows, AC, ignition, fuel system, etc. I am going to do some research and let you know what I find on the Megasquirt3

[Wesley J]

So, can you expand on the hardware you'll be using for IO with the car?

[Crestronwizard]

I will have more of a solid list soon but primarily will be based around the new Crestron 3 series processor along with relays that I can control. The EFI control will still be third party but I will have it on the touchscreen.

[bingham72]

Sounds like cool stuff going on in the dash. I've been interested in creating a touch-screen dash for some time now. Just can't seem to get together all the pieces just yet.

[Wesley J]

I'd love to see something wifi or BT based so one could use an iPad. Kinda like what Innovate Motorsports does for their obd2 reader.

I think I'll roll my own with a mobile pc and use the iPad as my display device.

Wes

[Crestronwizard]

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[Crestronwizard]

Nothing special to see but helps me to look back and see that I actually have made some progress!

[Crestronwizard]

I need a recommendation on a mini tub kit................

[cobraguy65]

Not sure there is a kit for your application. Most likely have to splice a strip of metal into your existing wheel houses.

[Wesley J]

I've been looking too.

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[Wesley J]

For what they are and the cost to get them here, I think I'm just going to build a copy. If my wife found out I have all of the tools to build them, then bought them, my you know what would be in a sling....

[Crestronwizard]

I can ship to Calgary pretty cheap.

[Jon Clough]

nice wheel tubs

[Wesley J]

I can ship to Calgary pretty cheap.

Thanks a bunch for the offer. When it comes time I may take you up on it. I'm still trying to decide where I'm going to stop this winter. I want to be back on the road by May/June so I have to pick my battles, and I've chosen a pretty big one....

[Crestronwizard]

wow, yes you have! especially with the new addition to your family. Stay diligent :-)

[Crestronwizard]

Well, I learned two things today. (1) A plasma cutter is the most awesome tool ever invented. (2) It has been way too long since I've done any welding. I cut out the rear floor pans and did a better job on the second one. Will attempt to weld in correctly next time that I can make it out to the garage.

[Wesley J]

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[Crestronwizard]

Very funny Wes :-)

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First time with a plasma cutter:

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[Crestronwizard]

Hi Guys......need some help making a decision. I will most likely need to do some frame repair (maybe just the extensions). I am already planning to do a coil over conversion and get rid of the shock towers to make room for my Cobra engine. So here is the question. Do I just go all in and get a Chris Alston chassis (I don't have Wes's skills to make one from scratch) or just put in the repair rails and move on. Thanks!

[THE TECH]

Nice project. Can't wait to see the goodies.

[chunger]

Hi Guys......need some help making a decision. I will most likely need to do some frame repair (maybe just the extensions). I am already planning to do a coil over conversion and get rid of the shock towers to make room for my Cobra engine. So here is the question. Do I just go all in and get a Chris Alston chassis (I don't have Wes's skills to make one from scratch) or just put in the repair rails and move on. Thanks!

Since you ask - I vote for the whole new frame. One, you've already got it mostly torn down, so it's not like it's that much extra work, and (2) you're going to have to do something with the front end. To me, it doesn't make much sense to do all the work that the front end is going to require and then *not* do much to the rest of the car.

So, I'd say, why stop in Chicago when you really want to go to New York?

[racedaddy]

If you're gonna be a bear be a grizzley, go all out

[Crestronwizard]

Ok, going the full frame route.....Frank has something sic for me. Stay tuned

[Wesley J]

Agreed, full frame for sure. That being said, you may be generating a lot of fab work in other areas.

Cant wait to see what you come up with.

[Crestronwizard]

Agreed, full frame for sure. That being said, you may be generating a lot of fab work in other areas.

Cant wait to see what you come up with.

Yeah, I am going to be watching yours like a hawk! how to mount the fenders, etc,etc, etc

[Crestronwizard]

A couple of friends and I carried the car outside today. It's a little heavier than it looks! Now I can clean the garage. Going to cut out the floor completely to make way for an Art Morrison Max G frame :-). If anyone needs a stock front frame rails/shocktowers and are near NC let me know and you can have it, otherwise I'm going to cut it up with the plasma cutter

[blown9746]

where in nc are you?

[Crestronwizard]

where in nc are you?

Mebane...........it's between Greensboro & Chapel Hill

[Crestronwizard]

Front end cut off

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[Crestronwizard]

Did some cutting to get ready for the chassis. Will weld in braces and finish this week
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Got the engine up on a stand.

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[ProTouringCuda]

Look at Art Morrison too. I bought their Max-G rolling kit for my Barracuda. You won't be disappointed with their work.

[Crestronwizard]

Look at Art Morrison too. I bought their Max-G rolling kit for my Barracuda. You won't be disappointed with their work.

That's what I am using. Have you installed it yet?

[ProTouringCuda]

That's what I am using. Have you installed it yet?

Sorry -- I missed your earlier post about using AME. Great choice.

For mine, see my build thread. I've updated my sig with the link.

[Crestronwizard]

Finally rolling around.......sort of, lol
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[chunger]

Wow, are you going to add in any temp bracing since you cut away so much metal? Are you worried about the body shell warping out of shape?

[Crestronwizard]

Wow, are you going to add in any temp bracing since you cut away so much metal? Are you worried about the body shell warping out of shape?

I already did. You just cant see it in this pic. Going to add in some more to the roof as I take out the rest

[JBCO]

Nice! Glad to see it's torn apart!!

[Crestronwizard]

Finished removing most of the little metal that I needed to. All that's left is taking out most of the firewall. My wife looked at it today and said " There's more you can actually take off?". Funniest was my oldest's comment " Dad, didn't we pick this car so we wouldn't have too much body work?" Well son, there's not much body left, does that count??? :-)

[ProTouringCuda]

I posted under the wrong thread. Sigh... Sorry. Original post (quoted below) has been replaced with this.

Actually, to put a meaningful bit in here - it looks like you're at the same point in your project as I am. I'm getting ready to cut the firewall out in the Barracuda here shortly.

[Crestronwizard]

OK - worked on the car a bit today. But first - a new addition to the garage/shop: A Miller Diversion 180 TIG welder. It's an awesome unit that runs off 120V or 220V - whatever it takes. Also, didn't really want to spend time building my own welding table - so I bought one of Millers.

Hmmmmmm.........you set all this up in my garage?? :-)

[Wesley J]

You'll be happy with that welder. I've got last year's 165 and its great, I've burnt a lot of rod with that thing and its still running perfect. Not sure if you're a welder or not but I've moved to the 2% Lanthinated tungsten (NOT 1.5%) and its been great. I use it sharply pointed for everything, steel, aluminum and stainless and it works fantastic. If you're using the right diameter for the amperage then it holds a sharp tip, even on AC.

[Crestronwizard]

I posted under the wrong thread. Sigh... Sorry. Original post (quoted below) has been replaced with this.

Actually, to put a meaningful bit in here - it looks like you're at the same point in your project as I am. I'm getting ready to cut the firewall out in the Barracuda here shortly.

No worries..........funny thing is I actually need to purchase a welder so this has all been great info :-). Counting down the days till the frame arrives.

[ProTouringCuda]

No worries..........funny thing is I actually need to purchase a welder so this has all been great info :-). Counting down the days till the frame arrives.

Well, as it turned out, there was an update notification to your thread and one to mine as well that came one right after the other. I just clicked on the wrong one

Anyway, the Miller TIG is a great machine. I see you have some Lincoln stuff there (as do I), but for my first venture into TIG, this machine is as easy as they say it is. And, did I say it runs off 120V? Really slick. More expesive than MIG, but IMO, worth the extra $$$. I have a Millermatic 130 MIG that's on loan from my father-in-law if I need it, but since I didn't have a welder of my own, I went the TIG route.

I've posted a few pics of on my thread, as to not take away from yours.

[Crestronwizard]

Anyone know where I can find the pics of this car being done? http://67mustangblog.com/2008/04/art-morrison-twin-turbo-1967-ford-mustang-fastback/art-morrison-twin-turbo-1967_ford_mustang_fastbackstripped_body/

The link on the site no longer works..........

[Crestronwizard]

I need a set of cheap 18" wheels to roll my chassis around on. Any ideas? Thanks

[rfalker1]

cool build... I see you are shedding alot off weight. Best of luck and craigs list or the junkyard

[Crestronwizard]

Loaded up for the trip to Chemstrip
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[drflex]

Anyone know where I can find the pics of this car being done? http://67mustangblog.com/2008/04/art-morrison-twin-turbo-1967-ford-mustang-fastback/art-morrison-twin-turbo-1967_ford_mustang_fastbackstripped_body/

The link on the site no longer works..........

thats the bobby alloway mustang

http://www.streetfire.net/photo/bobby-alloway-mustang-build_1045177.htm

[Crestronwizard]

thats the bobby alloway mustang

http://www.streetfire.net/photo/bobby-alloway-mustang-build_1045177.htm

Thanks!

[chunger]

Any updates? Did you get the body back yet?

[Crestronwizard]

It's a 6 week backlog :-(. Will be getting it back about the same time the chassis arrives. Went ahead and dropped the engine at the machine shop since there's downtime.

[rfalker1]

So knows a good time too order parts!! because stuff will try to change or be late on you when you need it most!!!!!

[Crestronwizard]

Scott @ AME called me today and the chassis is going to ship on or about the 20th.....whooooooohooooooooooo!!!

Now I have to decide which rear gear to run. Thoughts are a 3.55 with a 5 speed or 3:90 ish with a 6 speed. What are everyone's thoughts? Engine is the 4.6 DOHC with either a blower or twin turbos.

[Wesley J]

I'm going to run 4.10's with a T-56. Top speed should be 203 mph by the numbers with my tire diameter....

[Crestronwizard]

I'm going to run 4.10's with a T-56. Top speed should be 203 mph by the numbers with my tire diameter....

My concern is how much use I'll actually get with first gear.............what first gear ratio are you going to run?

[Crestronwizard]

Finally!! Progress :-). Chassis arrived today. I will be in Canada all next week so plenty of fun when I get back!

[Crestronwizard]

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[racedaddy]

Looks sweet even in the box

[Crestronwizard]

What kind of paint is preferred on the frame?

[ProTouringCuda]

Hey - that crate looks familiar! I shot mine with epoxy primer to keep the rust away while building. Will save a lot of time later.

[rustomatic]

Scott @ AME called me today and the chassis is going to ship on or about the 20th.....whooooooohooooooooooo!!!

Now I have to decide which rear gear to run. Thoughts are a 3.55 with a 5 speed or 3:90 ish with a 6 speed. What are everyone's thoughts? Engine is the 4.6 DOHC with either a blower or twin turbos.

With that frame, even with your planned power adders, I'd be looking at what's lightest. One overdrive is plenty, and first gear is a joke, even with a stock motor...

[Wesley J]

My concern is how much use I'll actually get with first gear.............what first gear ratio are you going to run?

The reason for the high mph is a 7800 rpm redline, makes a big difference. First gear will be quite useful as this will be my daily driver.

Frame looks stellar!

My inbox is empty, shoot me an note when you get a chance.

Wes

[Crestronwizard]

The reason for the high mph is a 7800 rpm redline, makes a big difference. First gear will be quite useful as this will be my daily driver.

Frame looks stellar!

My inbox is empty, shoot me an note when you get a chance.

Wes

I'm in Calgary........sent you a PM before I left ( I thought). Will send another one now

[number98]

Did I miss it or did you give us the specs of the chassis? I have been looking at an AME chassis for my 67 Mustang project.

[Crestronwizard]

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[linkstar69]

Talk about going for it. Great stuff man

[Crestronwizard]

Did I miss it or did you give us the specs of the chassis? I have been looking at an AME chassis for my 67 Mustang project.
I have the pdf of the specs if you want it

[Crestronwizard]

Hey - that crate looks familiar! I shot mine with epoxy primer to keep the rust away while building. Will save a lot of time later.
Thanks for the info......how are you running your fuel and brake lines?

[number98]

I have the pdf of the specs if you want it

That would be great man, could you shoot it to me in an email? I will PM you my info!

Like I said this will be a sweet project!!

[Crestronwizard]

Anyone need a fresh built 4.6 4V engine? All aluminum. Cobra Crank, Manley Rods, Ross flat top pistons. Cobra 98-00 cams. I am going to either go with the Coyote or I may have a line on an all aluminum 5.4. Thanks

[devwil68]

its coming along!

[Crestronwizard]

Back from Carolina Chem Strip
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[Crestronwizard]

I want a different front nose for the car but don't like the Eleanor kit..........any other suggestions?

[Crestronwizard]

Frame is painted........
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[chunger]

Wow, judging from that pic - you have a LOT of room to work on cars!!! Sure makes my garage feel cramped! Nice!

[HighOctane]

There is always the R model style nose?

[Wesley J]

This is a perfect example of scope creep! I love it, the frame is looking great and judging by the shot of the crate, you have a cage as well.

[irregal83]

awesome project.. ill be looking for updates!

[jr4452]

This thing is going to be awesome! Keep posting, and I'll keep drooling!
JR

[Crestronwizard]

Can't believe a month has gone by without doing much of anything :(. Started putting the front suspension together and laid out the rear end parts. I will be working on it this Saturday and will take pics of the (hopefully) completed front end :)

[irregal83]

sweet! will be lookin for updates !

[Crestronwizard]

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[Crestronwizard]

Put together the hubs..........I should be finished any day now, lol

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[Wesley J]

Man that looks fantastic!

[Crestronwizard]

Thanks for the encouragement Wes................every time I start working on it 30 mins later I realize I need a part or more often, a tool!

[ProTouringCuda]

Hey - that looks familar!

[Crestronwizard]

How are things going on your project?

[ProTouringCuda]

Project is temporarily on hold...

[Wesley J]

Thanks for the encouragement Wes................every time I start working on it 30 mins later I realize I need a part or more often, a tool!

See, there is something positive about me building every fusking part... LOL

[linkstar69]

Frame certainly looks good

[Crestronwizard]

Started putting the rear end together. Have I said I hate doing safety wire? I hate doing safety wire.........anyways. Should finish that part up and be under the frame Monday. Front brakes are together. Ordered my wheels from Jason @ Rushforth so will be rolling around the shop soon. :)

[nacnac]

Im having frame envy. How much did the frame set you back if you don't mind?

[Wesley J]

I dont mean to be rude but where the hell are the pics? ;-)

[solarguy09]

Nice Mustang.....Congrats on the Rushforth Wheels....Great Choice... Mike V.

[Crestronwizard]

I dont mean to be rude but where the hell are the pics? ;-)

I am making you wait.........I believe we had to wait a long time on somebody's ^^^^^^ project :)..........seriously, I will have some Monday. Thought I would work on it some today but the wife and I had some "alone" time as the boys were out of the house. And with her 7 months pregnant I take full advantage when at all possible :)

[Crestronwizard]

Im having frame envy. How much did the frame set you back if you don't mind?

The frame itself wasn't too bad (maybe $5k??) but I went all in on a total package and spent $17k including shipping. But that was the frame, full IFS front suspension, triangulated 4 link rear, complete Strange Engineering 9" rear (well, all the parts, I put it together), 13" Lightweight Wilwoods all the way around - 6 piston front and 4 rear, sway bars, I think that's about it.

[nacnac]

that's how they get ya. I'm too far into my build to get a frame anyway and the price totally puts it out of the question. I'm still jealous though.

[Crestronwizard]

Yeah. If I had skills like Wes or some of the other gifted builders on here I would have done it myself. Just ready to get through this stuff and into what I do well

[Crestronwizard]

Mocked up some body panels today
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[Wesley J]

Sweet. This car is gonna be awesome, cant wait to see it on the chassis!

I plan to have mine on the ground this weekend, just need to finish machining my camber plates. No pics for you though ;-)

[MSTSFabbed]

Started putting the rear end together. Have I said I hate doing safety wire? I hate doing safety wire.........anyways. Should finish that part up and be under the frame Monday. Front brakes are together. Ordered my wheels from Jason @ Rushforth so will be rolling around the shop soon. :)


What, you don't just LOVE drilling Grade 8 bolts hahaha! Car is looking fantastic and that frame is amazing! AM does some incredible work. :yum:

[Crestronwizard]

What, you don't just LOVE drilling Grade 8 bolts hahaha! Car is looking fantastic and that frame is amazing! AM does some incredible work. :yum:

Luckily the bolts already have the holes for me :)...........

[Crestronwizard]

Put the pumpkin, axles and parking brakes on and set the rear end back in the ca....er......frame :)

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Good pic of the frame and body

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[Crestronwizard]

Some pics with the rotors and calipers mocked up for clearance check

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[SRD art]

Looking great Geoff, keep it coming!

[Crestronwizard]

Question for anyone that has done a body drop.............do you just weld the rockers right to the frame or use angle iron and weld that to the rockers first and set in on the chassis so you can bolt it or weld it .....or a third option? Thanks!

[Crestronwizard]

https://sites.google.com/a/theconders.com/roadster/

This is who will be doing the metal work on the car. Should move along now. Get it to the point where I can do what I do best :)

[85coupe50]

Can't wait to see some more progress on this. Great job so far.

[ryeguy2006a]

nice project. Love the frame.

[rjsjea]

Good looking project......I just acquired a 66 coupe and your thread is good motivation

[Crestronwizard]

Thanks for the comments :)..........meeting with the body guy this morning...........may be off to paint prison soon............

[Crestronwizard]

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[ProTouringCuda]

Would really love to see the full size pics to see more of the detail. they available anywhere?

[Crestronwizard]

I'm going to retrieve them tonight and upload. Been on the road so thats the best I could do.

[Crestronwizard]

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[Crestronwizard]

I need a recommendation to source the new 5.0 engine and a 6 speed tranny for it. Thanks

[Wesley J]

Do NOT use Sean Hyland Motorsports. I can elaborate via PM if you like, but trust me on this one.

Car's looking great!

[Crestronwizard]

Understood...........I have some more pics I'll post tonight. I was dealing with American Powertrain but can't get them to get me a quote.......

[ProTouringCuda]

I would not recommend Keisler either. They were clueless with my T56.

I'd look at Ford Racing for the Coyote.

[69lsxamx]

here is a good deal on the coyote
http://www.lightningrodder.com/forum/showthread.php?t=82502

[MSTSFabbed]

What, you don't just LOVE drilling Grade 8 bolts hahaha! Car is looking fantastic and that frame is amazing! AM does some incredible work. :yum:

Luckily the bolts already have the holes for me :)...........

Well then what are you whining about ??? hahaha jk ;)

[85coupe50]

Call this guy at Ford here in Houston for a crate 5.0 and 6spd...
Anthony Hoekstra (HECKSTRA)

Tell him Matt Buckmaster pointed you his direction.

www.TOMMIEVAUGHNPERFORMANCE.com (http://www.TOMMIEVAUGHNPERFORMANCE.com)

[email protected]

[email protected]

713 802 6600

[Crestronwizard]

Thanks for the info guys.......wish me luck

[Crestronwizard]

The floor is shaping up

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[85coupe50]

Pics don't seem to show for me. I changes the header on them to make url links. Hope that's OK?

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Looking Good by the way!

[chunger]

Sweet. Looks like you also shaved the driprails?

[Crestronwizard]

Thanks.......yeah......they're gone :)

[Crestronwizard]

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[Bryce]

Awesome rendering!

[xsuperjoex]

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LOL your renderings' license plate made me perk up....I was like hmm that looks like NC. Then I checked your profile and it is! I'm in Charlotte. Great car and incredible work so far. I hope to see it in person one day on the road or at a show.

Joe

[Crestronwizard]

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[Crestronwizard]

Call this guy at Ford here in Houston for a crate 5.0 and 6spd...
Anthony Hoekstra (HECKSTRA)

Tell him Matt Buckmaster pointed you his direction.

www.TOMMIEVAUGHNPERFORMANCE.com (http://www.TOMMIEVAUGHNPERFORMANCE.com)

[email protected]

[email protected]

713 802 6600

Great guy to work with. Thanks for the contact!

[85coupe50]

Great guy to work with. Thanks for the contact!

No problem... He's a little loud at times but is a great guy! Hope it all works out. I buy from him ALL THE TIME... Helps that he is local to me but he will make sure to get you what you want at a good price...

[Crestronwizard]

***BUMP*** Cause I want some feedback................all this new work and just a couple of comments????? :)

[1tuff68]

All I can say is you are doing phenomenal work, and I can't wait to see more progress!!

[dusterbd13]

looks good, man.

im digging the sheetmetal and frame work.

renderings also pretty cool.

back to lurking on your thread now, but keep up the good work.

michael

[78CobraII]

I noticed the bushings between the frame and the body. Will the body be removable? Is there a particlar reason for changing from unibody to body-on-frame? I understand that the car will will be stiffer with the dedicated frame, but I'm wondering if it would work just as well integrated with the body via welds.

Great work! I'm really enjoying your project.

[Crestronwizard]

Thanks for the comments. Working on a really cool modification in the rear and hope to have pics up soon.

The body will be removable. Going to take the whole thing apart once all the fab work is done and send it to paint.

[85coupe50]

***BUMP*** Cause I want some feedback................all this new work and just a couple of comments????? :) The car iscoming along nicely... Excellent work.

[MSTSFabbed]

The floors are looking fantastic! Very nice bead rolling!

[Crestronwizard]

Who is the best source for custom fuel cells?

[kmdracer]

Can't help with the fuel cell, but I'm gonna be following this, and can personally recommend Tommie Vaughn Ford. Have done business with them off and on for years.

[ProTouringCuda]

Well, I'm looking at two sources - not Fuel Cells per sey, but tanks. Ricks Tanks with the Vaporworx setup, and also another guy here who teamed up with a fellow Mopar guy hand building stainless tanks. I'm actually wanting a tank silimar to the stock 1st gen Mustang tank (top mounted, with top of tank = trunk floor). Looking to get a polished stainless tank made up, but still working on it.

[ILLMATIC]

wow this one hell of a build

[Crestronwizard]

Thanks..........have to get that coming soon. My Engine and tranny shipped today :) :) :)

[Wesley J]

Man, that thing is coming along fantastically! She's gonna be a rocket ship when its done. Super impressive!

Wes

[Crestronwizard]

Custom quarter extensions and bumper molded in

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[Crestronwizard]

Sorry about the pic quality.........iPhone

[linkstar69]

That rear treatment will be cool when it's done.

[1tuff68]

Super cool! Hope that bumper never gets dinged! :)

[racedaddy]

really nice work

[Crestronwizard]

Engine Arrived yesterday. Only just ordered it Monday. Anthony from Tommie Vaughn is the man!

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[ATOMonkey]

Very cool! Did it come with the ECM (or whatever they're calling it these days.)?

[Crestronwizard]

Yes. :)

[kmdracer]

Very cool!

[Coasty]

WoW! That's a massive job. Well done so far. Love your work.

[Crestronwizard]

Wish I could take all the credit. Kelly Murphy with www.murphyrodandcustom.com is fabricating the floors and rear and attaching to the frame.

[JBCO]

Awesome!! Simply awesome.

[85coupe50]

Glad you got the engine so quickly. Everything looks to be coming right along... The new custom 1/4 extensions look great.

[Crestronwizard]

Thanks........figuring up the tank and fuel system now.....looking like I'll use Vaporworx and Ricks Tanks? Also need to figure out exhaust now and a 100 other things :)

[ProTouringCuda]

Thanks........figuring up the tank and fuel system now.....looking like I'll use Vaporworx and Ricks Tanks? Also need to figure out exhaust now and a 100 other things :)

What's the width between rear frame rails on your Chassis? I just designed a 1st gen Mustang tank for my Barracuda project - take a look at it on my thread. it's 33.5" x 19.5" x 7.5" - my rails are at 34"

Maybe Rick / Hector will cut us a deal if he makes two of them ;)

[ProTouringCuda]

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[Crestronwizard]

Good question :). I will be out at the shop Friday and will measure it.

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[stillridin]

Just went through the whole build so far and was sad to see that i caught up to the latest progress. Very nice! Love the rendering. Very big fan of the smoothed shaved look. In the rendering theres no front windshield molding. I'm almost to the point on mine where I'm going to do the same. love to see that when it comes time.

[Crestronwizard]

Thanks.......there wont be any rear molding either. The rendering is being updated. The next 30 days should see a lot of progress.

[ProTouringCuda]

Nice exhaust outlets, however, that's going to severely limit your fuel tank from being in the stock location. If you do, it's going to be quite narrow, or you'll have to shave the corners. On my 65 mustang - the exhaust comes out the rear GT valance and it's a VERY tight fit next to the tank.

What have you got planned for it? Are you going in the trunk - aka fuel cell?

[Crestronwizard]

I'm splitting the difference..........coming up into the trunk some. I didn't want to do it but wanted the exhaust.............what's a crazy pro touring guy to do? :)

[Dalamar]

Nice work! I just looked over the whole thread, great choice on parts/chassis. going to be sweet.

[Crestronwizard]

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[JBCO]

That's awesome! About how far did you push the motor back ?

[Crestronwizard]

We're still playing around with it. I'll post exact #'s soon. It's roughly 5 inches back from the original firewall in the pic :).

[JBCO]

We're still playing around with it. I'll post exact #'s soon. It's roughly 5 inches back from the original firewall in the pic :).

Sweet! I'm looking to push the exact same setup back in my 68 when the time comes and always love knowing what I'm up against. Thanks

[Wesley J]

Wow, I thought mine was a ways back! Nice!

My dampner is directly above my rack, which is likely a fairly similar locaction to yours. You're engine appears to sit quite a bit higher than mine though. I'm basing my engine height on the T-56 bellhousing, not the oil pan. My oil pan in its current form would likely be < 3" from the ground but it well see heavy modification. My bellhousing will be about 5.5", with the crossmember just in front of it being the lowest point at about 5", with the option to lower the car to that ~4" ride height.

Looking awesome though.

Wes

[Crestronwizard]

Thank Wes. I found the exact same thing to be true. 3" off the ground to the oil pan if I put it where I want it which is too close for me. Would be interested to see what your pan mod gets you. Go ahead guinea pig, I'm waiting! :) lol

[Crestronwizard]

Oh, btw Wes, I am going to have alternator clearance issues. Are you running into the same thing? Thanks

[Wesley J]

Absolutely. I wont be running it in the factory position. My frame and steering are in the way. I am running a remote oil filter as well.

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[stillridin]

Wow love the metal work. That is alot of welding. It seems you picked the right guy.

[Crestronwizard]

Thanks for the pics Wes. Is yours body dropped like mine?

[Crestronwizard]

Wow love the metal work. That is alot of welding. It seems you picked the right guy.

Thanks. I have been very happy so far.

[Crestronwizard]

Lots of new issues to deal with. Really regretting doing the narrow track front frame. I need more room! Lol. The engine is sitting way high currently. Anthony @ Tommie Vaughn hooked me up with a moroso pan and filter relocator kit. Once those are in I plan to sit the engine down 4" or more. The brackets for the top control arms are in the way so we'll see what happens. Stay tuned

[Crestronwizard]

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[Wesley J]

Thanks for the pics Wes. Is yours body dropped like mine?

Sorry, not sure what you mean.

[Crestronwizard]

Sorry, not sure what you mean.

:) The floor of the car was cut out and the bod "dropped" to lower the car without lowering the frame. So essentially the floor is now 3 - 4" higher than a stock one and everything else seems higher that is bolted to the frame .... Engine, Tranny, etc.

After some deliberation the engine is coming forward about 4 inches (roughly to where you have yours) and going down at least 2" , maybe more. Anthony @ Tommie Vaughn (I can't say enough good things about dealing with this guy) hooked me up with a trick Moroso pan and pickup that will get me the needed ground clearance. I have decided to go Twin Turbo, which was my original plan. I will have a lot of updates as all that comes into place. I really want to go to some events this year. Can anyone make some recommendations? Thanks!

[Wesley J]

Man, my lisdexia tends to better the get of me....

My floor is not dropped up front. The floor of the mustang slopes from front to back so what I did was build my frame such that it protruded into the car starting at the front of the front seat pan. That way it wouldn't impede the ergonomics/floor of the driver. I'd hate to sit in the back though ;-) I'm tall enough that I need every inch of headroom for a helmet.

Can you send me a link for the oil pan/pickup? I'm at the point now time wise that I'm willing to spend a bit of cash to not have to fabricate absolutely everything...

Oh, and twin turbo?! #1 are you nuts and #2, where the hell are you gonna put them? LOL. Cant wait to see what you come up with!

Cheers,

Wes

[Crestronwizard]

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#1 Yes. #2 That's the fun part!

[Wesley J]

Thanks for the info! I'm going to get it ordered right away!

Love the TT thing. I'm a turbo guy and have spent hours devouring all reference material pertaining to design that i could find. I've gone back an forth quite a bit on it but came to the realization that this will be my 4 wheeled daily driver and 510 hp should be enough to get me into trouble, especially on the autocross. I'd be doing the same as you if I was going as balls deep as you though.

Cheers,

Wes

[Crestronwizard]

:) I will keep you in the loop. Working with Anthony and Bill Devine ( http://www.bullseyepower.com/home.asp ) to develop something.

[Protour_Pinto]

Twin tailpipe turbos would give a nice look from the rear

[Wesley J]

One big challenge on this motor is that it has a HUGE range of CFM that it makes power on. If you look at the range from max torque to max hp, its a pretty huge RPM range (4000+ rpm), and hence, CFM range. It'll be fun to size the turbos so that they give you the most drivable horsepower over that range.

Oh ya, checked the price locally for that pan and pickup... I'll be modding mine as originally intended...

[Crestronwizard]

yeah, Bill & Anthony say this thing is going to have an awesome wide powerband. Should be fun.

You need me to pack an extra pan in my suitcase? lol

[Crestronwizard]

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I think it may be thin enough :)

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[Wesley J]

yeah, Bill & Anthony say this thing is going to have an awesome wide powerband. Should be fun.

You need me to pack an extra pan in my suitcase? lol

Can you pm me what you paid for it?

[Crestronwizard]

Lots and lots of mods to get the engine where we really want it. Pics will be uploaded tomorrow.

[Crestronwizard]

http://www.motorator.com/blog/ford/turn-key-engines-ford-road-runner-serpentine-system

I plan to use that. Anyone else have experience with them?

[Crestronwizard]

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[linkstar69]

Love what you're doing, Great work.

[Bryce]

nice progress.

[wellis77]

Looks good Geoff.

[LeighP]

Very cool stuff!

[Bjkadron]

Question... do you have the engine solid mounted? Because otherwise the belt tension will be changed by the movement of the engine...

[Dalamar]

Great work!

[Crestronwizard]

Question... do you have the engine solid mounted? Because otherwise the belt tension will be changed by the movement of the engine...

No, The mounts have Poly Bushings. I will have a tensioner on the belt to keep that adjusted. Thanks for pointing it out.

[Crestronwizard]

Thanks for the kind words. If anyone plans to do an IFS with the Coyote let me know.........I can give you a list of the issues you'll have to work around.

[DJ Mabe]

Love what you've done with the rear of the car. Are the guys that are doing all of the metal work doing the painting as well?

[Crestronwizard]

Love what you've done with the rear of the car. Are the guys that are doing all of the metal work doing the painting as well?

No.........considering paint shops now. Planning to be ready for paint by July. Fingers crossed.

[Crestronwizard]

Starting on the custom stainless headers. Anyone know of a place that sells the stainless flanges to the block for the new 5.0? I can make em if not. Thanks

[Crestronwizard]

Spent a ton of money on parts this week. Hopefully will have all the exhaust parts, steering, A/C, pedals, hinges and tank soon. Will give us lots to do. The welding around the windshield and rear glass is almost complete (making the glass look like it does on new cars). Pics soon.

[Crestronwizard]

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[linkstar69]

Love the flush glass, I always think about how much I wish I'd done that with my dart, I guess it'll have to wait till next rebuild.

[1tuff68]

Coming together nicely. Great work!

[number98]

I agree, your car is really starting to take shape. Keep at it!

[jr4452]

Lookin great! thanks for lighting a fire under me to get out and work on mine!

[Crestronwizard]

Custom Stainless Headers Starting to Take Shape :)

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[ryeguy2006a]

The headers look great. Nice work.

[Wesley J]

Sexy!

[Crestronwizard]

Thanks Wes.....no matter how long I stay when I come to Canada there's never enough time. Thinking about coming up this summer for a few weeks and bring the family. I have a couple of huge projects coming up. Looking for helpers if you know anyone send them my way.

[Crestronwizard]

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