Project SicMonte [Archive] - Page 4

ed1le

07-08-2014, 06:20 AM

You are definitely not alone, my garage is full of things I should be doing but haven't because I overthink it. And even after I've done all my research and get my parts together doubt creeps in and I start thinking I should have gone a different route. Anyway, looks like you got everything you need, got to set a goal, mine is to have the olds back together for OC in October and I haven't even gotten my parts yet. Time to kick myself in the ass and get on with it.

This makes me feel better knowing I'm also not alone! I too overthink to the point of second guessing myself, even if it's something I've done before with success.

Front and Rear Suspension is now 100% out of the car....OMG what have I done!!!!!!!!

You've committed yourself, that's what you've done. No turning back now! ;)

2ndroundko

07-09-2014, 07:47 AM

I love this build. Text book KISS style form follows function and it still looks killer.

carguykeith

07-10-2014, 01:45 AM

Man that Ridetech stuff is nice looking! I'm really happy with everything on my 8.5 rear if you're looking for a good build, should be good for 10 second runs in the 1/4 and lots of corners...

SicMonte

07-10-2014, 03:54 AM

Man that Ridetech stuff is nice looking! I'm really happy with everything on my 8.5 rear if you're looking for a good build, should be good for 10 second runs in the 1/4 and lots of corners...

How did you build your 8.5?

csouth

07-10-2014, 05:18 AM

Nice upgrades! Your car is one of the nicest G bodies out there.

Streetbu

07-10-2014, 07:35 PM

How did you build your 8.5?

I have a GN 8.5" in my Malibu and used a Detroit Tru-Trac. I LOVE IT! My car is not as serious as yours though! LOL

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/07/100_0275-1.jpg

SicMonte

07-11-2014, 09:57 AM

I have a GN 8.5" in my Malibu and used a Detroit Tru-Trac. I LOVE IT! My car is not as serious as yours though! LOL

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/07/100_0275-1.jpg

Nice!

I'm doing the 8.5 as follows: Welding the axle tubes, UMI Performance Roto Joint bushings, Moser 30 spline axles, Tru-Trac, Yukon 3.73 ring and pinion, aluminum diff cover, Baer SS4 brakes....not sure about the yoke though.

Streetbu

07-11-2014, 10:27 AM

Motown 454

07-11-2014, 10:35 AM

You've got some sweet looking new part right there. I love the Ride Tech stuff.

bonecrrusher

07-11-2014, 11:26 AM

Must have Wheat thins.... errr Ride Tech!

Really wish they made swaybars for my car - I just discovered they made coilovers for the C5+.

carguykeith

07-11-2014, 03:37 PM

I'm doing the 8.5 as follows: Welding the axle tubes, UMI Performance Roto Joint bushings, Moser 30 spline axles, Tru-Trac, Yukon 3.73 ring and pinion, aluminum diff cover, Baer SS4 brakes....not sure about the yoke though.

Thats pretty much how I built mine, except I wanted c-clip eliminators too so went with THIS (http://www.strangeengineering.net/make-and-model/gm/axle-packages-components/strip-street-oval-track-packages/gm-street-strip-oval-track-axles-elim-kit-1-2-stud-kit.html) and different brakes.

I would definitely upgrade the yoke, I think it was only $75 or $100 to go to a steal 1350 yoke instead of the cast 1330 that was on there stock.

Oh one more thing to think about is the lower control arm mounts should be lowered if your ride hight is more than 2" below stock, UMI has nice weld on brackets for it, that's what I'm using. My build thread (link in my signature) is only a couple of pages and has more details if you're interested.

SicMonte

07-11-2014, 08:30 PM

I left the 3.42's in mine since I don't have OD yet. Plus with short 245/50/16 tires I'm spinning pretty good on the highway... Still planning on making it to the Syracuse Nationals? I'll have my car there!

I'll be at the Syracuse Nats working the autox with the ASCS. My car will not be there though.

SicMonte

07-11-2014, 08:31 PM

Really wish they made swaybars for my car - I just discovered they made coilovers for the C5+.

...and your life is now changed forever.

SicMonte

07-11-2014, 08:35 PM

Thats pretty much how I built mine, except I wanted c-clip eliminators too so went with THIS (http://www.strangeengineering.net/make-and-model/gm/axle-packages-components/strip-street-oval-track-packages/gm-street-strip-oval-track-axles-elim-kit-1-2-stud-kit.html) and different brakes.

I would definitely upgrade the yoke, I think it was only $75 or $100 to go to a steal 1350 yoke instead of the cast 1330 that was on there stock.

Oh one more thing to think about is the lower control arm mounts should be lowered if your ride hight is more than 2" below stock, UMI has nice weld on brackets for it, that's what I'm using. My build thread (link in my signature) is only a couple of pages and has more details if you're interested.

Ok...mind blown.

Tell me more about this yoke you speak of.......

Tell me and explain to me more about the c clip eliminators.....

Tell me more about why you wanted those brackets? I've heard good and bad about them......

carguykeith

07-11-2014, 10:26 PM

Ok...mind blown.

Tell me more about this yoke you speak of.......

Tell me and explain to me more about the c clip eliminators.....

Tell me more about why you wanted those brackets? I've heard good and bad about them......

On the yoke, ok I was wrong on two things; 1. the stock cast unit is a 1310 u-joint not a 1330 so REALLY needs swapped and 2. a steel one is $125 HERE (http://www.jegs.com/i/Inland-Empire/537/PY12/10002/-1?parentProductId=#moreDetails) or a cast one is $65 HERE (http://www.dennysdriveshaft.com/p76_dana_spicer_3_4_8681_1_pinion_yoke_1350_series _chevy_and_gm_.html) I must have gotten mine on sale or eBay or something...

C-clip eliminators do a couple of things but the only one that really matters since you are looking at rear disks with floating calipers is that it's required on 1/4 tracks if you're faster than 10.99. If you never plan to put at least a 6-point cage in your car you can skip this, since you're limited to 11.49 w/o the cage.

I know way less about 4-link rear suspension calculation than I should but it's generally agreed that the anti-squat goes too low if you don't move the LCA rear mounting locations when you lower the rear. I did everything at once so I can't say for certain it was the relocation brackets but I can say I hooked up MUCH harder afterwards. Someone like Marcus at SC&C could explain the actual specifics. I really do need to get off my ass and learn 4-link calculations... Worst case is you waste $75 and an hour of your time installing the brackets but decide you like the factory location best.

The good news is an 8.5 10-bolt with a decent carrier, 30 splines, welded tubes and a AL girdled cover is good to an easy 800hp so you shouldn't ever need another rear once you're done.

Norm Peterson

07-12-2014, 04:37 AM

I think the bigger problem with lowering the rear of an OE-triangulated-4-link P-T car and not correcting the LCA inclination is with respect to axle roll steer - I can see that going from something like 8%, maybe 10% in the vehicle understeer sense (which is too much for a car used at autocross as it is) out to somewhere beyond 20%. 0% would define this effect to have neither understeer nor oversteer consequences. Although setting axle steer to be ever so slightly loose (vehicle oversteer, negative percentages here) for autocross might help that activity, it would tend to feel 'nervous' and too demanding on either the street or out on a big track . . . so you'd probably want axle steer to be under 5% and probably closer to 3%, but not any negative value.

Norm

SicMonte

07-12-2014, 01:43 PM

On the yoke, ok I was wrong on two things; 1. the stock cast unit is a 1310 u-joint not a 1330 so REALLY needs swapped and 2. a steel one is $125 HERE (http://www.jegs.com/i/Inland-Empire/537/PY12/10002/-1?parentProductId=#moreDetails) or a cast one is $65 HERE (http://www.dennysdriveshaft.com/p76_dana_spicer_3_4_8681_1_pinion_yoke_1350_series _chevy_and_gm_.html) I must have gotten mine on sale or eBay or something...

C-clip eliminators do a couple of things but the only one that really matters since you are looking at rear disks with floating calipers is that it's required on 1/4 tracks if you're faster than 10.99. If you never plan to put at least a 6-point cage in your car you can skip this, since you're limited to 11.49 w/o the cage.

I know way less about 4-link rear suspension calculation than I should but it's generally agreed that the anti-squat goes too low if you don't move the LCA rear mounting locations when you lower the rear. I did everything at once so I can't say for certain it was the relocation brackets but I can say I hooked up MUCH harder afterwards. Someone like Marcus at SC&C could explain the actual specifics. I really do need to get off my ass and learn 4-link calculations... Worst case is you waste $75 and an hour of your time installing the brackets but decide you like the factory location best.

The good news is an 8.5 10-bolt with a decent carrier, 30 splines, welded tubes and a AL girdled cover is good to an easy 800hp so you shouldn't ever need another rear once you're done.

the yoke you put a link to is a 12 bolt. ??

carguykeith

07-12-2014, 04:02 PM

the yoke you put a link to is a 12 bolt. ??

Oops, too many tabs open copied the wrong one for the steel yoke...

Still $120 HERE (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ied-py10) for a steel one that fits the 8.5 10 bolt.

You have a drive line loop right? All this talk of u-joints reminded me of those youtube videos, if you don't have one get one NOW.

SicMonte

07-12-2014, 06:30 PM

Oops, too many tabs open copied the wrong one for the steel yoke...

Still $120 HERE (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ied-py10) for a steel one that fits the 8.5 10 bolt.

You have a drive line loop right? All this talk of u-joints reminded me of those youtube videos, if you don't have one get one NOW.

oh I've had one of those for years!

is there a difference from the Moser vs Strange vs Inland Empire yokes?

SicMonte

07-12-2014, 06:55 PM

Got my Centerforce Dual Friction clutch in and my balanced flywheel!!!

Thanks to Centerforce for all their help with this project!!! This clutch is a piece of artwork!!!!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/07/10464325_10152247485158907_6645481168238-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10464325_10152247485158907_6645481168238434739_n.j pg.html)

Car is missing a lot of stuff now...time to get to work!!!!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/07/10372325_10152249150573907_4626220128483-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10372325_10152249150573907_4626220128483646989_n.j pg.html)

carguykeith

07-12-2014, 10:30 PM

SicMonte

07-13-2014, 05:17 AM

oh I've had one of those for years!

is there a difference from the Moser vs Strange vs Inland Empire yokes?

Glad to hear it!

Not as far as I am concerned, just the cast vs steel is all I would worry about. I don't think I've heard of anyone busting any steel 1350 yoke at least at the power levels we are talking about.

Thanks so much for the info and insight!

I pulled the trigger last night and had a lil shopping spree at Jegs....

Tru Trac, 30 spline Moser axles, Inland Empire 1350 Yoke and the LPW Ultimate 10 diff cover.

Can't wait to get this rear all done!!!!

83hurstguy

07-13-2014, 06:17 PM

While there's no doubt 1350 is the way to go if you can, just for reference, the stock G-body yoke is a 3R. Most GM stuff '78ish and later has that as far as I know. I've heard it's around a 1330 in strength.

I have the 30 spline Mosers in mine, great pieces. Moser did send the incorrect axles twice (kept sending 28 spline), so count them as soon as they show up. As a heads up, be cognizant of the LPW cover to sway bar clearance. The nuts aren't counterbored like the TA cover, so you'll need to have the bar level at ride height or it will hit under bump travel. I just went through hell with a DSE bar as a result. Need to get pics up, just been working stupid hours.

I also had two holes in my 8.5" housing that weren't tapped deep enough for the LPW bolts supplied with the cover, they were bottoming out before torquing cover. LPW sent shorter bolts, I ended up putting ARP's in there anyways.

carguykeith

07-14-2014, 01:58 AM

Thanks so much for the info and insight!

I pulled the trigger last night and had a lil shopping spree at Jegs....

Tru Trac, 30 spline Moser axles, Inland Empire 1350 Yoke and the LPW Ultimate 10 diff cover.

Can't wait to get this rear all done!!!!

You bet, always glad to share what I know!

Oh yeah my sway bay was close with the TA cover and doubt the LPW would have fit at all. If it hasn't shipped yet it may be worth swapping covers I was really impressed with the quality of the TA.

SicMonte

07-14-2014, 05:58 AM

You bet, always glad to share what I know!

Oh yeah my sway bay was close with the TA cover and doubt the LPW would have fit at all. If it hasn't shipped yet it may be worth swapping covers I was really impressed with the quality of the TA.

damn...I have the TA one on my 7.5.

BigBlockOlds

08-24-2014, 07:45 PM

SicMonte

08-25-2014, 02:51 PM

Just curious if you ever found a proportioning valve that worked? I assume so since the car has been out and about.
I ran into an issue earlier today with my '87 while loading it onto a trailer where the brakes gave out on me and I got to roll off the trailer without any brakes. Luckily I was able to jamb the pedal as hard as I could and got it to stop before hitting the house.
I have one of those brass proportioning valves and tried tightening all of the lines going to it but still have a leak. It appears to be coming from the plastic pressure switch. Not sure exactly what I should do here if the majority of these valves are defective. :(

Thanks,

After dealing with four leaking aftermarket brass prop valves I bit the bullet and got this Baer adjustable prop valve. It mounts up nicely under the stock master cylinder using a bracket from GNS Performance. A couple lines had to be made and bent but it was sooo worth it. Haven't had an issue since.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/03/32412010-1.jpg

BigBlockOlds

08-25-2014, 03:39 PM

Are you still running a stock valve on the frame rail for distribution or did you just tee the lines off? I have an aftermarket adjustable proportioning valve inline to my rear brakes after the stock valve.

Thanks,

SicMonte

08-25-2014, 04:12 PM

SicMonte

08-25-2014, 04:52 PM

Been a lil bit since I have updated the progress of the t56 install along with all my new suspension parts....that's bc not much has happened!

here's the new shifter mocked up on the trans to see how it looks and fits.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/08/image-1.jpeg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/image.jpeg.html)

SicMonte

08-25-2014, 04:56 PM

The awesome guys and gals at Ridetech custom machined their logo into this billet aluminum breather for me!! I just love the little custom touches!! Thanks again guys and gals...it's companies like you that keep us in this hobby!!!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/08/image1-1.jpeg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/image1.jpeg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/08/image2-1.jpeg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/image2.jpeg.html)

SicMonte

08-25-2014, 05:02 PM

Got some new decals on the car recently. Finally got some decals from my shop on there...Dual-Lit-Kustoms!!

Also got some decals so I can rep Centerforce Clutches on the car!! I will have a couple larger ones on the car once final placement is decided. Can't thank them enough for partnering up with me on this project!!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/08/IMG_2063-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/IMG_2063.jpg.html)

SicMonte

08-25-2014, 05:04 PM

I had these made so that people at car shows, autox's, track days, parades, etc can find me on social media. Look me up!!!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/08/image4-1.jpeg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/image4.jpeg.html)

SicMonte

08-25-2014, 05:06 PM

Ok......finally getting some time to measure and cut the hole for the shifter.

It's about time huh??

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/08/image6-1.jpeg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/image6.jpeg.html)

SicMonte

08-25-2014, 05:37 PM

The first "round" of cutting the floor.......

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/08/photo2-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/photo2.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/08/photo6-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/photo6.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/08/photo7-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/photo7.jpg.html)

SicMonte

08-25-2014, 05:39 PM

The reverse lockout thingy is very close and people have said to just use a hammer and beat the floor out of the way. I'm not doing that so we will have to trim some more and I will just make a sheet metal cover for it all once it's done.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/08/photo5-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/photo5.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/08/photo8-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/photo8.jpg.html)

SicMonte

08-25-2014, 05:40 PM

Behold....the holy Fire Extinguisher!!!!!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/08/photo3-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/photo3.jpg.html)

SicMonte

08-25-2014, 05:41 PM

This one pics sums up how I feel every time I work on this car!!!!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/08/photo9-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/photo9.jpg.html)

bonecrrusher

08-26-2014, 11:07 AM

Looking good.

Tremec FTW.

SicMonte

08-26-2014, 04:34 PM

So as stated above I needed to make a relief cut for the reverse lock out thingy (very technical term there).

I used a Milwaukee 4" Sawzall blade in an air saw and it cut through the floor board/trans tunnel like butter!!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/08/photo1-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/photo1.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/08/photo41-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/photo4-1.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/08/photo21-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/photo2-1.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/08/photo31-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/photo3-1.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/08/photo51-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/photo5-1.jpg.html)

SicMonte

08-26-2014, 04:38 PM

Here's a comparison of the GForce ( www.crossmembers.com ) 200-4R and the T56 crossmembers. GForce states that the T56 crossmember was actually designed using an LT1 T56 and it fits differently with an LS style T56. Thankfully my T56 is the LT1 version. WIN!!

T56 on top...200-4R on the bottom

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/08/photo61-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/photo6-1.jpg.html)

SicMonte

08-26-2014, 04:44 PM

And this is how it fits in an 88 Monte Carlo SS with a T56 out of a LT1 Camaro.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/08/photo81-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/photo8-1.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/08/photo9a-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/photo9a.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/08/photo71-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/photo7-1.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/08/photo11-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/photo11.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/08/photo10-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/photo10.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/08/photo12-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/photo12.jpg.html)

SicMonte

08-26-2014, 04:46 PM

Plenty of room now!!!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/08/photo13-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/photo13.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/08/photo14-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/photo14.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/08/photo15-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/photo15.jpg.html)

SicMonte

08-26-2014, 04:48 PM

This is why I haven't really worked on the car in the last couple weeks. Between traveling to events and getting other stuff done around the house and shop I haven't had any time to dedicate to the car. It's been a crazy summer!!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/08/photo16-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/photo16.jpg.html)

SSLance

08-27-2014, 06:05 AM

SicMonte

08-27-2014, 06:54 AM

Hey Doug, I really think you'll be happier with the results if you work on a way to raise the back of the trans at least an inch or so. You've got the room now, no reason not to do it. Go until the top of the trans where the rubber bumper is is just off the floor.

Lance,

I did think that the trans was too low but the rubber bumpers on top are about a 1/16" away from hitting the trans tunnel. I remember from our conversations that this is where yours was at.

I don't know why it is different but yes I agree that the trans does seem too low. If I raise it then I would need to do more cutting. We shall see.

SSLance

08-27-2014, 07:10 AM

How are your body bushings? Have you ever replaced them? Wondering if the body is sitting lower on the frame than mine?

SicMonte

08-27-2014, 07:13 AM

How are your body bushings? Have you ever replaced them? Wondering if the body is sitting lower on the frame than mine?

Body mounts are all new as of 2006.

bonecrrusher

08-27-2014, 07:34 AM

Are you going to be welding in some sheet metal to close out that hole at all?

SicMonte

08-27-2014, 11:26 AM

Are you going to be welding in some sheet metal to close out that hole at all?

oh yeah for sure! Once everything is done I will make a nice shifter plate to mount the boot too.

silvermonte

08-27-2014, 07:04 PM

Number1

09-06-2014, 08:35 PM

Any new updates?

SicMonte

09-08-2014, 08:05 PM

SicMonte

09-08-2014, 08:07 PM

Any new updates?

No real updates.....life has been getting in the way now. I might have a hernia so that will put me out of commission for a while I think....time will tell.

My next step is to install my Canton oil pan...so I can then install my flywheel and Centerforce Dual Friction clutch. After that the pedal assembly and hydraulics will go in and the trans can be bolted in for the last time.

Then its on to the new rear end....measure for a new drive shaft...install suspension....etc etc etc.

SSLance

09-11-2014, 09:11 AM

With those cross-members the only real change in them is the mounting height for the trans mounting bushing correct? I have the 200r4 version and was just going to weld on a tab for the t56 when I got to that point.

Here's what we did to modify my existing G-Force to work with the T56. I was the designer while my friend John was the lead engineer and machinist. Thanks John...

The T56 transmission mount needed to be about 1 1/4" lower and and inch or so towards the front than the 200R4 mount was, so we cut a C-notch out of the front of the g-Force cross member.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/01/2012112795080843-1.jpg

Then tack welded plates to box the C-notch in and tacked a new mounting plate at the right height inside the notched part.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/07/2012112795123303-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/07/2012112795123516-1.jpg

Then took it to the car and test fit to make sure everything was correct before final welding.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/07/20121127_190852_735-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/07/20121127_190909_473-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/07/20121127_190838_321-1.jpg

We got the height perfect. I removed the rubber bumper on the top of the T56 and the tail shaft height is now in just about the exact same height as the 200R4 was and I can fit a straight blade screw driver between the rear two cover bolt heads and the floor pan.

200R4

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/07/20121121_192317_626-1.jpg

T56 on new mount

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/07/DSC02355-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/07/DSC02364-1.jpg

John finished welding it up and I painted it up and it'll be ready to go back in tonight.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/01/DSC02368-1.jpg

SicMonte

09-22-2014, 04:18 AM

Lance thank you for the post!!!!

Tonight I am pulling out the measuring tape to see how the rear of my trans matches your pictures. Pics to follow....

silvermonte

09-22-2014, 09:16 PM

Thank you for the pictures Lance. Seems like a pretty easy thing to do to save a few coins since I have that cross-member already.

SicMonte

10-03-2014, 12:38 PM

Thank you for the pictures Lance. Seems like a pretty easy thing to do to save a few coins since I have that cross-member already.

I thought I would buy the T56 one to save some time......but we all can see that I'm taking my sweet time with these upgrades as it is.

silvermonte

10-03-2014, 04:20 PM

I thought I would buy the T56 one to save some time......but we all can see that I'm taking my sweet time with these upgrades as it is.

Thats no biggie, its called life and its nice to enjoy it sometimes. Ill go weeks without even looking at my projects sometimes.

SicMonte

10-21-2014, 06:14 AM

Looks like the motor will be pulled out to freshen it up bc I have to pull the motor out anyways to install this new oil pan so why not!!

Motown 454

10-22-2014, 08:06 PM

Nice fix! it looks good.

SicMonte

12-06-2014, 08:06 PM

Did some work on the car today...well set up for the final push to complete it. I'll have pics and info up here soon enough!

SicMonte

12-08-2014, 08:32 PM

So I am having the 8.5" GM 10 bolt build finally and I thought I would share with you all what is going into it.

Here she sits in her current state of grime and rust.....

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850150-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850150.jpg.html)

Here are the 30 spline forged Moser Axles.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850151-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850151.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850152-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850152.jpg.html)

SicMonte

12-08-2014, 08:34 PM

Here's the Inland Empire 1350 Yoke.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850153-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850153.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850154-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850154.jpg.html)

SicMonte

12-08-2014, 08:37 PM

Yukon rear end assembly kit.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850155-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850155.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850156-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850156.jpg.html)

Yukon 3.73 Ring Gear...still in the packaging lol.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850157-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850157.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850158-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850158.jpg.html)

SicMonte

12-08-2014, 08:40 PM

LPW Aluminum Diff Cover.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850160-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850160.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850161-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850161.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850162-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850162.jpg.html)

SicMonte

12-08-2014, 08:44 PM

Eaton TruTrac.....I can't tell you how long I have wanted one of these!!!!!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850163-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850163.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850164-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850164.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850165-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850165.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850167-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850167.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850168-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850168.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/ab66a0ce68da4a70a2e541e9939d975c-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/ab66a0ce-68da-4a70-a2e5-41e9939d975c.jpg.html)

SicMonte

12-08-2014, 09:02 PM

Soooo while the rear is out getting built I have started the suspension parts swap.

First step was to assemble my new Ridetech TQ series coilovers.

Here are the springs. Fronts are now 800# (used to be 900# on the single adjustable coilovers) and the rear springs are 275# (up from 250# on my singles).

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850169-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850169.jpg.html)

SicMonte

12-08-2014, 09:05 PM

Here is all the hardware for the front coilovers.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850172-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850172.jpg.html)

and here's what's included with the rear coilovers.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850173-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850173.jpg.html)

SicMonte

12-08-2014, 09:12 PM

And here we have a Ridetech TQ Coilover for the front of a G Body...when using the Ridetech lower control arms.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850174-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850174.jpg.html)

The first step in assembling these coilovers is to put on the lower spring mount/adjuster. This is usually done from the bottom of the shock but this is not possible on the TQ series due to the reservoir hose...so the lower spring mount needs to go on from the top. This is a seriously tight fit so the guys at Ridetech gave me a lil trick of the trade.......put a thick washer in the open space on the spring mount to widen the inner diameter and the mount will slide right over the shock body to the threads. BINGO!!!!!!!!!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850177-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850177.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850176-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850176.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850175-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850175.jpg.html)

SicMonte

12-08-2014, 09:15 PM

Next step is to install the lower Delrin washers....

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850178-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850178.jpg.html)

Then put on the spring....

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850179-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850179.jpg.html)

Then the upper Delrin washer....

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850180-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850180.jpg.html)

SicMonte

12-08-2014, 09:22 PM

Next you install the upper spring retainer. Ridetech offers two different retainer...the low and tall...and on a gbody you need to use the tall one due to the factory spring pocket clearance issues.

Here's a pic of the two different upper spring retainers.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850184-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850184.jpg.html)

So I used the new one that Ridetech sent to me which was brushed aluminum (maybe clear anodized) instead of the old anodized black one.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850193-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850193.jpg.html)

SicMonte

12-08-2014, 09:26 PM

Next install the small metal clip that will actually hold the upper spring retainer in place once tension from the coil spring is applied.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850194-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850194.jpg.html)

Screw up the spring to apply tension....

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850195-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850195.jpg.html)

Last thing to do is tighten up the screw in the lower spring mount/adjuster so that it doesn't back out.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850196-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850196.jpg.html)

SicMonte

12-08-2014, 09:33 PM

Now on to the rear coilover.....here it is!!!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850197-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850197.jpg.html)

First step is to take out this lil clip that holds in the trunnion bar.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850198-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850198.jpg.html)

Then install the lower shock mount/adjuster just like we did on the fronts. Don't forget to use the trick of the trade!!!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850199-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850199.jpg.html)

SicMonte

12-08-2014, 09:40 PM

Next install the lower Delrin washer...spring...then the upper Delrin washer.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850200-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850200.jpg.html)

Next step is to install the upper spring retainer (flat one). In order to get the spring retainer on you will need to screw in the adjustment knob all the way in and take off the knob. The lil screw that holds on the knob is a T10...a torx bit.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850201-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850201.jpg.html)

SicMonte

12-08-2014, 09:46 PM

Next you need to put on the upper spring mount retainer clip.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850203-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850203.jpg.html)

Put the adjustment knob back on...add some spring tension to the upper mount...re install the Trunion bar and press on the metal clip and Boom...it's done!!!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850204-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850204.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850205-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850205.jpg.html)

SicMonte

12-08-2014, 09:50 PM

And there ya have it....Ridetech TQ Coilovers assembled and ready to be installed...tuned...and thrashed!!!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/10850206-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202014/10850206.jpg.html)

Now I did receive some insider tips on these coilovers from two people who have been running these for a couple years now. They actually mounted them upside down in order to have the reservoir hose closer to the trunk to make installing the reservoir easier and to bring the adjustment knob within better reach. I will be taking the coilovers apart soon...switching the Trunnion bar to the opposite side...and re-assembling the coilovers so that this is the way it will be in my car. MAKES SENSE RIGHT??!!

carguykeith

12-09-2014, 07:50 PM

Norm Peterson

12-10-2014, 04:09 AM

As soon as you add relo brackets, any need to weld the axle tubes becomes more urgent. I'm not saying don't weld the tubes, more like make sure you do if you install the brackets. FWIW, welding the tubes is probably a job best left to somebody with experience welding castings.

Norm

SicMonte

12-10-2014, 10:35 AM

That rearend buildup looks familiar for some reason... Only thing I didn't see mentioned that I would HIGHLY recomend is welding the tubes to 3rd member, I did it myself with a stick welder using nickle rod it was cheap and easy. Also with as low as you are, I would look into the LCA relocation brackets.

Super jealous of those coilovers BTW!!

I forgot to add that part!! The tubes will be welded to the third member.

Now let's start an informative debate:

Pros vs Cons of LCA relocation brackets.

I've heard that they are needed and not needed.

SickSpeedMonte

12-10-2014, 02:03 PM

Well, "needed" is kind of relative. We don't "need" to fix the upside-down camber curve to go around turns, but it helps. Relocating the LCA's changes the instant center, which then changes the anti-squat and rear roll center. When you lower the car, the IC drops. When the IC drops, you get less vertical force with longitudinal force (acceleration). Generally, you tune the anti-squat to your tires, but lowering a G-body 3-4 inches in the rear puts the IC too low by any account. LCA relo brackets help some but the UCA's need it too. LCA brackets are better than nothing though.

I noticed an improvement in launch on street tires when I moved the rear LCA mounts down. Getting the LCA's closer to parallel with the ground will help reduce rear axle roll understeer too.

Also, you should know that if the LCA brackets are designed for drag racing (which I believe most are), they will be set up for a rear ride height that is close to stock. With the car lowered, it pushes the rear axle backwards. That hurts weight distribution and just looks funny. So if you install them, mark the rear axle centerline with a plumb bob and position the rear axle there when you mock them up using the LCA. If you have adjustable lowers, then you probably have enough adjustment to not have to worry about clocking the brackets, but you should still measure and position the rear axle when you adjust them.

carguykeith

12-10-2014, 03:05 PM

What he ^ said...

Sickspeed has a better handle on this than me, but I can say it made a noticable difference in acceleleration. Not saying they are the only ones but I know my UMI brackets did not move the axle centerline with non-adjustable lowers.

SickSpeedMonte

12-10-2014, 03:28 PM

Good to know. I have the BMR's and they pushed the axle back.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

SicMonte

12-10-2014, 07:29 PM

so are these bolt on or weld in?

Norm Peterson

12-11-2014, 04:57 AM

I'd weld them on regardless, leaving the bolts in place.

Norm

SicMonte

12-11-2014, 05:19 AM

Looks like I will be making a call to UMI for a set of their brackets.

SickSpeedMonte

12-11-2014, 06:37 AM

so are these bolt on or weld in?

They were bolted on and then welded on.

Ben@SpeedTech

12-11-2014, 09:12 AM

When I went to the Viking coilovers all around I used Speedtech's coilover conversion brackets which have 3 position settings. I noticed in photos of my car accelerating out of corners and videos from drag racing that my car would noticeably squat with my low stance and the arms in the stock location. I moved the lower arms one notch down and now the car pushes forward rather than squatting. It goes along with what Sick Speed said above, it totally changes the geometry and dynamics of the rear suspension. Ultimately as has been said your arms should be relatively parallel to the ground to put you near optimum. BTW I know you've already got parts, but for those reading along and looking for trailing arms, the Speedtech Articulink upper and lower arms are both adjustable to help with setting pinion angle and centering the axle.

SicMonte

12-16-2014, 02:50 PM

Dropping the 8.5 rear off on Thursday to have it built and the tubes welded up.....cant wait!!!

SicMonte

12-29-2014, 12:41 PM

I've been getting a lot of crap recently about my car not being done. Here is the current state of my car: Trans "mocked" up, no suspension, no rear, old oil pan still on.

Tonight I will start the process of pulling out the motor to install the new Canton Road Race oil pan. I have to remove the motor b/c the T56 will not allow me to raise the motor enough to install the pan so the motor is coming out. I hope that this does not lead to more projects b/c I am sick of projects and tired of spending money on this car.

After the oil pan is installed and the motor is back in I will finish up with the T56 install by bolting up my Centerforce® Clutches Dual Friction clutch, installing the Rick Kim Performance T56 and GForce cross-member and the final step is getting the Bernie Duplan SICKSPEED pedal assembly sorted out.

Moving right along to the suspension next. My RideTech TQ coilovers are already assembled. I am currently waiting on my UMI Performance Inc. suspension to be completed. Once that is received I can throw the suspension together and mount up my recently built 8.5" 10 bolt rear. This baby has 30 spline axles, Inland Empire 1350 yoke and a Tru-Trac diff with 3.73 gears. The rear brakes still have not been determined yet. I'm debating on keeping the stock drums (highly unlikely), doing a basic C5 rear disc swap or go all out and get the Baer Brakes SS4 set up (anyone out there at Baer wanna hook me up?).

Once the rear is in and all the suspension is set up I can throw on my CCW Forged Wheels "Classics" and properly measure for an aluminum drive shaft. I also need to get some BFGoodrich Rivals at some point. This will be the last piece of the building puzzle. After that is said and done I will have to drive it a bunch to fine tune everything and then drop it off at a friends shop to have a cross bar added to the "cage" to make is legal to compete in SCCA events. Then it's off to some events to see what else I can break on this car.

So I know this car has been down for a long time and I am just fine with that. It will get done at my own pace and when my back starts to hurts I will stop working until the pain goes away which could take days. I work slow, over think things and obsess about the dumbest smallest things but it will get done and we will see you at the Syracuse Nationals, Cruisin the Smokies, Cruisin Ocean City, some CDC events, some SCCA autox's and hopefully the Polish Mountain Hill Climb again.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/12/IMG_0729-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/IMG_0729.jpg.html)

slow87monte

12-29-2014, 08:29 PM

SicMonte

12-29-2014, 09:14 PM

what axle company did you use? strange? im building a 8.5 for mine now, i was going to go with a disc brake set up off a 90's 2wd blazer.. any thoughts
still have the tubular front suspesion setup anymore?

I'm using Moser 30 spline axles in my 8.5.

Not sure about the rear discs off an s10...no experiance with those. I know a lot of people use the rear ls1 brakes though.

I am planning on using the Ridetech front Tru-Turn set up and also hope to use the new UMI G Body front suspension set up at some point. I will test both to see what best fits my driving style.

Dochaze

01-25-2015, 08:27 AM

Hey doug, hang in there. It will all come together. Besides, if it was easy, everyone would be doing it. I attached a pic of my monte that has been a labor of pain for the last 18 years of my life. But i wouldnt trade any of it. All the suspension work has been done, with a lot learned form your thread(thank you, seriously), but i have one nagging problem that you seem to have fixed. Your inner fender liners...early on you had cut them, but now it looks like you hAve some stock replacements. You claim they dont rub even with the 275s up front. I have 245s and im hitting on the passenger side where it pinches in for the ac box(thats all gone now) and the battery tray. Whats your secret? Ones for a regal, or cutlass work better?

Number1

01-26-2015, 08:02 AM

Sicmonte, what size and backspacing are your rims? Also what size tire are you running? Thanks in advance.

Justin@EntropyRad

01-26-2015, 09:22 AM

this thread makes me want one now

Number1

02-03-2015, 02:56 AM

Found the wheel & tire information. Are you still running a spacer, as I see you were before you upgraded to the baer brakes? Also any updates on the car?

SicMonte

02-09-2015, 09:06 PM

Found the wheel & tire information. Are you still running a spacer, as I see you were before you upgraded to the baer brakes? Also any updates on the car?

No spacer on the fronts anymore but I am still running one on the rear...but not for long!!!!

SicMonte

02-09-2015, 09:07 PM

SicMonte

02-09-2015, 09:08 PM

Update time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

SicMonte

02-09-2015, 09:36 PM

I got the rear end back...all I have to do now is paint it and determine what I will be using for my LCA relocation brackets. I hear UMI is coming out with some trick stuff soon............

The rear is a GM 8.5" 10 bolt with 30 spline Moser Axles, Tru Trac Diff, 3.73 Yukon Gears, Inland Empire 1350 forged yoke, a LPW Ultimate 10 Diff Cover and the UMI Performance Roto Joints. This is a bad mofo.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/10947493-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/10947493.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/10947494-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/10947494.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/10947495-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/10947495.jpg.html)

SicMonte

02-09-2015, 09:46 PM

I decided to pull the motor in order to swap out oil pans...and this quickly turned into me taking the motor to a machine shop to rebuild since I only had 4 psi of oil pressure at idle.....sooooooooo

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/10947458-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/10947458.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/10947459-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/10947459.jpg.html)

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https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/10947462-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/10947462.jpg.html)

SicMonte

02-09-2015, 09:48 PM

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/10947466-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/10947466.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/10947465-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/10947465.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/10947468-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/10947468.jpg.html)

SicMonte

02-09-2015, 09:50 PM

While it is at the machine shop......

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/10947469-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/10947469.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/10947470-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/10947470.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/10947464-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/10947464.jpg.html)

SicMonte

02-09-2015, 09:53 PM

Here's the car as she sits......

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/10947472-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/10947472.jpg.html)

So I decided to put up my partner banners and film some stuff for my YouTube page!!!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/10947477-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/10947477.jpg.html)

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-F0Dmkv7Oc4Xf8m6O8mFnQ

SicMonte

02-09-2015, 09:55 PM

Pics of my Canton Road Race Oil Pan and FelPro one piece gasket.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/10947478-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/10947478.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/10947481-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/10947481.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/10947482-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/10947482.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/10947483-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/10947483.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/10947484-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/10947484.jpg.html)

SicMonte

02-09-2015, 09:59 PM

So I went to the machine shop tonight to talk about the motor. Remember I had 4psi of oil pressure at idle and this is why.....everyone of my main bearings was destroyed and the crank main journals were so worn that they looked like a mountain ridge. Nasty!!!!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/10947492-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/10947492.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/10947485-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/10947485.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/10947486-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/10947486.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/10947488-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/10947488.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/10947489-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/10947489.jpg.html)

SicMonte

02-09-2015, 10:01 PM

We will clean up and reuse the rods and pistons.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/10947490-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/10947490.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/10947491-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/10947491.jpg.html)

Norm Peterson

02-10-2015, 04:43 AM

Have you radius'ed the entries to the oil drainback holes at least in the cylinder heads and at the back of the block?

Norm

SicMonte

02-10-2015, 08:18 AM

Have you radius'ed the entries to the oil drainback holes at least in the cylinder heads and at the back of the block?

Norm

That will probably happen depending on the cost.

carguykeith

02-10-2015, 03:26 PM

Looks like we have matching rears except I know we are running different disk brakes. You'll love the tru-trac its smooth as butter! I don't think they like sythetic fluids though, might want to check on that before you fill it.

Norm Peterson

02-11-2015, 06:05 AM

I'm pretty sure it won't want any friction modifier either, so I suggest doing a thorough cleaning inside the pumpkin and axle tubes.

Norm

SicMonte

02-11-2015, 06:16 AM

Streetbu

02-13-2015, 08:31 AM

I run the Tru-Trac in my 8.5". LOVE IT and don.t run friction modifier. No clutches=no need for it.

Number1

03-01-2015, 12:49 PM

Hey sicmonte. What size wheels studs do you have in your car? The part number if you remember.

SicMonte

03-02-2015, 09:36 PM

Hey sicmonte. What size wheels studs do you have in your car? The part number if you remember.

Front wheel studs were already installed when I ordered the brakes from Baer so I have no idea what part number they are.

The rears are ARP #100-7713

http://arp-bolts.com/kits/ARPkit-detail.php?RecordID=73

and yes for some reason I have different lug nuts for the fronts and the rear.

SicMonte

03-05-2015, 06:21 AM

UPDATE:

The motor rebuild is going to cost too much with all the machine work involved....so I'm now on the look for a decent short block.

ANY IDEAS?????

Streetbu

03-05-2015, 06:42 AM

http://www.jegs.com/p/Chevrolet-Performance/Chevrolet-Performance-350-ZZ4-HO-Short-Block-Assembly/749884/10002/-1

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/mll-bp3830

Norm Peterson

03-05-2015, 07:49 AM

UPDATE:

The motor rebuild is going to cost too much with all the machine work involved....so I'm now on the look for a decent short block.

ANY IDEAS?????
What displacement? What compression ratio?

Norm

SicMonte

03-05-2015, 07:53 AM

What displacement? What compression ratio?

Norm

anywhere from a 350...383...400....something decent but cheap. My old motor was a 350 bored .060 over and has 10:1 compression.

Norm Peterson

03-05-2015, 10:56 AM

PM sent.

I'm maybe a couple hours from I70 & I695.

Norm

SicMonte

03-05-2015, 11:47 AM

So here are all my parts for the SBC and some suspension pieces...I really wish I had my shop back!!! My car has taken over!!!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/03/IMG_3995-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/IMG_3995.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/03/IMG_3996-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/IMG_3996.jpg.html)

SicMonte

03-05-2015, 11:50 AM

So I have been working with UMI Performance for a while bit now to help them prototype some suspension pieces.

These are their new rear coilover brackets with and without lower control arm relocation...pretty slick stuff here!!!

Here's a close up of the LCA Relocation brackets with the coilover mount.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/03/IMG_4006-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/IMG_4006.jpg.html)

SicMonte

03-05-2015, 11:54 AM

Here is the UMI Performance rear coilover bracket installed on my 8.5 housing.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/03/IMG_4141-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/IMG_4141.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/03/IMG_4142-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/IMG_4142.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/03/IMG_4143-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/IMG_4143.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/03/IMG_4144-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/IMG_4144.jpg.html)

SicMonte

03-05-2015, 11:59 AM

The rear Lower Control Arm brackets with the coilover mount fit very well but I had to trim the housing a little bit. You can see in the pics below how the support plate is hitting the actual housing.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/03/IMG_4020-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/IMG_4020.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/03/IMG_4076-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/IMG_4076.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/03/IMG_4077-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/IMG_4077.jpg.html)

SicMonte

03-05-2015, 12:02 PM

So we measured, marked and cut!!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/03/IMG_4078-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/IMG_4078.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/03/IMG_4083-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/IMG_4083.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/03/IMG_4080-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/IMG_4080.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/03/IMG_4084-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/IMG_4084.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/03/IMG_4086-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/IMG_4086.jpg.html)

SicMonte

03-05-2015, 12:09 PM

Test fit.....

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/03/IMG_4091-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/IMG_4091.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/03/IMG_4088-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/IMG_4088.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/03/IMG_4085-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/IMG_4085.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/03/IMG_4087-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/IMG_4087.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/03/IMG_4090-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/IMG_4090.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/03/IMG_4089-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/IMG_4089.jpg.html)

SicMonte

03-05-2015, 12:12 PM

Final test fit with the coilovers.....these brackets are really nice, very strong, well thought out and most importantly....MADE IN THE USA!!!!!!!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/03/IMG_4053-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/IMG_4053.jpg.html)

SicMonte

04-06-2015, 06:49 AM

Well......last Saturday 4/4/15 I had the G Body dream team over to my shop and we did A LOT of work to my car........I mean a lot of work!!!!

We did so much that I really didn't have any time to take pics....I had to have my buddy Nick take all the pics and we streamed the build live on my YouTube page!!

Here's a list of what was accomplished:
- Installed new motor
- Installed Centerforce Dual Friction Clutch
- Installed LT1 T56 built by RKT Performance (Rick Kim)
- Installed SickSpeedMonte Clutch pedal assembly
- Installed 8.5 rear end
- Installed full rear UMI suspension
- Installed front RideTech Tru-Turn set up
- Installed front RideTech Muscle Bar
- Installed RideTech TQ Coilovers

Here is a link to the full 11 hour build. The motor and clutch/trans was installed in the first two hours and the motor was fired up in the last half hour of the video. I will have build pics up soon.......

AfYqSiDK8Jo

SicMonte

05-05-2015, 08:38 PM

Huge update coming soon........t56 is in, suspension...everything!!

bonecrrusher

05-07-2015, 09:39 AM

You created your own circle of friends - congrats again!

mc84_zz4

05-07-2015, 11:18 AM

Good job Doug! That's a lot of work!
Thanks for bringing us along for the fun.
:cheers:

SicMonte

05-12-2015, 10:18 AM

I have soooo many pics to put up....this will be huge!!

TheBandit203

05-23-2015, 12:28 PM

I'm anxiously waiting

SicMonte

06-19-2015, 09:39 PM

Rwolf15241

06-24-2015, 02:43 PM

Nice build, any feedback on the UMI Rear coil over mounts?? debating which way to go with my Elcamino, and the Ford 9 inch??

Thanks RW

Centerforce

06-24-2015, 07:28 PM

sorry guys about the pics!!!! Good news is that the car runs and drives very well now!! I have everything sorted out with the new....

- motor
- t56 trans
- pedals
- 8.5 rear
- rear disc brakes
- all new suspension and coilovers

pics will be here shortly.......there will be a lot

Yes! We're looking forward to lots of pics.

BlackMachOne

06-26-2015, 09:48 AM

I love your car, great work!

BTW, where or how did you get that ridetech banner?

Here's the car as she sits......

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/10947477-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%202015/10947477.jpg.html)

J. Chris Davis

06-26-2015, 09:59 AM

This build so makes me want to sell my 3rd gen and pick up a Monte.

SicMonte

08-31-2015, 09:24 PM

Nice build, any feedback on the UMI Rear coil over mounts?? debating which way to go with my Elcamino, and the Ford 9 inch??

Thanks RW

The UMI rear coilover mounts with lower control arm relocation are just simply amazing!! Well made, well engineered. very beefy, just perfect.

SicMonte

08-31-2015, 09:25 PM

Yes! We're looking forward to lots of pics.

pics will be up soon......this week.

SicMonte

08-31-2015, 09:27 PM

I love your car, great work!

BTW, where or how did you get that ridetech banner?

I get the banners from the companies that support me. I have them bc of this build thread and all the pics, as well as my twitter feed, instagram page, shop facebook page and my youtube channel....I'm a media junkie and they get a lot of exposure.

SicMonte

08-31-2015, 09:38 PM

Man a lot has been going on this summer....I have an update for what's been going on ever since about mid April of 2015. It's going to be very detailed with personal life stuff...car stuff good and bad...and some event stuff. I haven't been feeling well the last month or so and that's why I haven't been on here but I am starting to feel better and I have a lot to put up here!! To be honest I have been on facebook and Instagram a lot more then I have been on here but that's coming to an end. There will lots of pics so stay with me....it will be worth it.

mc84_zz4

09-01-2015, 08:54 AM

You knew this was coming. :postpics:

I hope you're feeling better, always looking forward to your updates.

SicMonte

09-10-2015, 11:44 AM

SicMonte

09-10-2015, 07:46 PM

OK this update is going back to Feb-March of 2015, before the big build day.

I sent my clutch, stock flywheel and billet GM flywheel to Centerforce just to make sure everything was in spec...and this is what was returned along with a freshly balanced stock LT1 t56 flywheel and brand new Dual Friction clutch!!! Can't thank those guys enough for looking out for me!!!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/001-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/001.jpg.html)

SicMonte

09-10-2015, 07:48 PM

These are pics at the machine shop around Feb 2015.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/004-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/004.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/005-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/005.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/007-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/007.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/008-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/008.jpg.html)

I brought my clutch because I had everything balanced as a unit.

SicMonte

09-10-2015, 07:50 PM

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/009-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/009.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/010-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/010.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/011-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/011.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/012-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/012.jpg.html)

SicMonte

09-10-2015, 07:51 PM

My fiance got me this for my bday back in February....shes def a keeper!!!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/017-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/017.jpg.html)

SicMonte

09-10-2015, 07:56 PM

Since I did the SC&C upper control arm bolt upgrade back when I had the Stage 2 plus set up...I can no longer use the stock hardware that comes with most control arms. The bolt upgrade btw is just a larger diameter bolt...but in order to use them you need to drill out the mounting holes on the frame. This is all and well until you decide to switch arms......then you need to do this!! #fail

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/020-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/020.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/021-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/021.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/022-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/022.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/023-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/023.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/024-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/024.jpg.html)

SicMonte

09-10-2015, 08:01 PM

Here are the UMI Performance rear coilover brackets with LCA relocation complete and powdercoated gloss black. These are some nice pieces!!!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/028-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/028.jpg.html)

The rear housing was cleaned up and painted with Chassis Black.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/013-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/013.jpg.html)

Some parts waiting to go back onto the motor...

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/015-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/015.jpg.html)

SicMonte

09-10-2015, 08:03 PM

Added some more partner decals!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/019-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/019.jpg.html)

The motor is complete and ready to go back in...

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/026-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/026.jpg.html)

The Centerforce Dual Friction clutch waiting to be installed...

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/027-1.png (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/027.png.html)

SicMonte

09-10-2015, 08:22 PM

So back in March 2015 I decided to make the twelve hour trip to Ridetech in Jasper Indiana to participate in the 48 Hour Corvette build. When I got there I was just overwhelmed by the whole deal. I helped out with the social media side of the build and I even helped out on the car a lil bit. This was a great trip and it really inspired me to get my car done!!! Can't thank the entire crew at Ridetech enough for all their hospitality!!!

My first view as I walked in the door.....

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/060-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/48%20Hour%20Corvette/060.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/GOPR0125-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/48%20Hour%20Corvette/GOPR0125.jpg.html)

Got my own name badge....HOW COOL IS THAT??!!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/068-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/48%20Hour%20Corvette/068.jpg.html)

SicMonte

09-10-2015, 08:25 PM

Decided to take a short tour....I was a tourist after all!!!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/064-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/48%20Hour%20Corvette/064.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/065-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/48%20Hour%20Corvette/065.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/066-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/48%20Hour%20Corvette/066.jpg.html)

OMG...all Gbody parts.....

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/061-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/48%20Hour%20Corvette/061.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/062-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/48%20Hour%20Corvette/062.jpg.html)

SicMonte

09-10-2015, 08:27 PM

Ok time to do some work....

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/069-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/48%20Hour%20Corvette/069.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/070-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/48%20Hour%20Corvette/070.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/071-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/48%20Hour%20Corvette/071.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/077-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/48%20Hour%20Corvette/077.jpg.html)

SicMonte

09-10-2015, 08:29 PM

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/GOPR0130-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/48%20Hour%20Corvette/GOPR0130.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/080-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/48%20Hour%20Corvette/080.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/083-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/48%20Hour%20Corvette/083.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/085-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/48%20Hour%20Corvette/085.jpg.html)

SicMonte

09-10-2015, 08:31 PM

My Avalanche parked out front...

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/089-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/48%20Hour%20Corvette/089.jpg.html)

Chassis....just a cool pic.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/090-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/48%20Hour%20Corvette/090.jpg.html)

Don't ask me why but someone there wanted me to autograph his shirt since I was there and part of the process.....lol.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/094-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/48%20Hour%20Corvette/094.jpg.html)

and maybe something came home with me....

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/096-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/48%20Hour%20Corvette/096.jpg.html)

SicMonte

09-10-2015, 08:34 PM

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/100-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/48%20Hour%20Corvette/100.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/102-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/48%20Hour%20Corvette/102.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/104-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/48%20Hour%20Corvette/104.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/113-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/48%20Hour%20Corvette/113.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/125-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/48%20Hour%20Corvette/125.jpg.html)

SicMonte

09-10-2015, 08:35 PM

OK...now back to my car.....

drewh

10-16-2015, 06:47 AM

Doug, I'm new to this site and just wanted to say: this is an absolute beast of a build. I recently purchased a 1985 SS that I (hopefully) will be starting on soon. I've got to finish up the current project(55 Chevrolet pickup ratrod sitting on a G-body frame.. Quite an undertaking.). I hope to end up with something similar to what you've done on my SS. Your car has given me a lot of inspiration and motivation. I'm sure I'll end up asking a lot of questions.

With that being said, Do you have any updates on the car? Pictures of the new suspension in place?

SicMonte

10-18-2015, 07:36 PM

SicMonte

12-21-2015, 04:15 PM

ok update time. Bought a house...moved in...and now my computer is up and running!!!

SicMonte

12-21-2015, 05:55 PM

These are the pics from my "build day" back on 4/4/15. I had the shop stocked with supplies and all ready for the work. I had the gbody dream team come over (Joe Duffy, Adam Stelmack "sixtoes", Bernie Duplan "SickSpeedMonte" and my buddy Nick was taking pics and video) and we worked on the car all day and installed:

- Motor including all accessories and cooling system
- T56, shifter
- Clutch
- SSM Clutch Pedal
- Ridetech TQ coilovers

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1735-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1735.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1737-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1737.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1738-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1738.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1744-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1744.jpg.html)

SicMonte

12-21-2015, 05:57 PM

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1761-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1761.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1765-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1765.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1766-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1766.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1768-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1768.jpg.html)

SicMonte

12-21-2015, 05:58 PM

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1775-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1775.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1778-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1778.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1783-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1783.jpg.html)

SicMonte

12-21-2015, 06:30 PM

These are a couple GoPro pictures I took during the day.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/G0010008-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/G0010008.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/G0010010-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/G0010010.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/G0010011-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/G0010011.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/G0020075-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/G0020075.jpg.html)

SicMonte

12-21-2015, 06:31 PM

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/G0020083-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/G0020083.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/G0020106-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/G0020106.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/G0020198-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/G0020198.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/G0020372-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/G0020372.jpg.html)

SicMonte

12-21-2015, 08:32 PM

Couple of pictures of various items I used during the build day.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1795-1.png (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1795.png.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1796-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1796.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1800-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1800.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1801-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1801.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1802-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1802.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1803-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1803.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1804-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1804.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1805-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1805.jpg.html)

SicMonte

12-21-2015, 08:39 PM

This is the GM part number for the stock LT1 hydraulic set up which is the clutch master cylinder, slave cylinder, line and reservoir. It come pre-bled and installs fairly easy with the SSM clutch pedal assembly. The Centerforce Dual Friction Clutch is a piece of artwork and performs even better than it looks!!!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1797-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1797.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1799-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1799.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/2223-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/2223.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/2225-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/2225.jpg.html)

SicMonte

12-22-2015, 06:35 PM

So I have always wanted a removable steering wheel...so I picked up a Sparco Wheel with a Momo adapter and Sparco Quick Release. Let's just say that the Momo adapter is completely wrong for this application and so is the Sparco Quick Release. I did some looking around and found some people using a hub adapter and quick release from a company called Forever Sharp Steering Wheels. I got their set up and could not be any happier!!!! I highly recommend their products!!

Website: http://fssteeringwheels.com/
Hub: http://fssteeringwheels.com/store/#!/Hubs-Risers/c/3447935/offset=0&sort=normal
Quick Release: http://fssteeringwheels.com/store/#!/5-Bolt-Black-Universal-Quick-Release-Hub/p/39726338/category=6213116

Momo Hub vs. Forever Sharp Hub
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1809-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1809.jpg.html)

Sparco Wheel with the Sparco Quick Release on it....I did not use the Sparco Quick Release
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1811-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1811.jpg.html)

Here is the Forever Sharp Hub on the steering column.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1873-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1873.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1874-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1874.jpg.html)

SicMonte

12-22-2015, 06:53 PM

While working on the rear of the car I decided to take some pics of the 3/4" frame notch to show you all.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1848-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1848.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1842-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1842.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1843-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1843.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1850-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1850.jpg.html)

SicMonte

12-22-2015, 07:17 PM

During the build day Bernie, SickSpeedMonte, build this cool heat shield for the slave cylinder.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1851-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/1851.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1852-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/1852.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1853-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/1853.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1854-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/1854.jpg.html)

SicMonte

12-22-2015, 07:43 PM

Now with the trans installed and the rear end installed I could finally measure for a drive-shaft! I chose to go with a DynoTech 3.5" 6061 Aluminum unit with 1350 ends. This was almost too pretty to install under the car!!!

Here's the T56 trans installed with the GForce T56 crossmemeber for gbody cars.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1812-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1812.jpg.html)

Here are the measurements for my custom build drive shaft.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1837-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1837.jpg.html)

And here it is!!!!
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1856-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1856.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1859-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1859.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1862-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1862.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1863-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1863.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1864-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1864.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1865-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1865.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1867-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1867.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/1868-1.jpg (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/SicMonte/media/Monte%20Carlo%202015/1868.jpg.html)

Jalopydragcar

01-16-2016, 08:05 AM

I love the look and stance of your Carlo. Those wheels really set it off nicely.

Geo's66

01-17-2016, 06:17 AM

Fantastic- I have a question with my 78 monte I'm building re: driveshaft selection. I'm putting in a strange engineering axle, was going to have them build the driveshaft once I get trans in and measured. What's the thing to know on selection from carrier? Anyone heads and tails better than others? Why? Thanks. Love this build,

SicMonte

03-09-2016, 08:21 PM

I went with DynoTech b/c a lot of the people that autox and participate in the event run these driveshafts....so that's why I went with them. I got the 1350 yokes and the nice aluminum shaft for strength.

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man I have alot to post up.....I need to catch up!!!! I have info and pics coming soon. It's hard to find time with a new house!

SicMonte

09-02-2016, 12:29 PM

oh man.....it's been a long time. What is up my people??!! Buying a new house and getting married in the same year....bad idea. Not enough time in the day to do anything!!! But the car runs and drives great!! I have a lot to update...I'll try to do some tonight.

Motown 454

09-02-2016, 02:01 PM

Congratulations on both Marrage and the new house. The drive shaft looks nice and beefy.

SicMonte

07-13-2017, 08:45 AM

photobucket has screwed me...........the pics will be back i promise.

J. Chris Davis

07-13-2017, 08:47 AM

I've had that happen by them in the past. I've been using postimage.org. Just have to watch for any links they add in there when you post a picture. I usually have to remove that junk out of the picture link.

SicMonte

07-13-2017, 08:54 AM

they want $399 per year for the ability to post on a third party site.....ummmmm WTF??!!

J. Chris Davis

07-13-2017, 10:08 AM

I forgot they started doing that. I didn't want to pay just to post pictures. Imageshack I think started doing that too.

SicMonte

12-22-2017, 08:25 PM

tried to embed a video...

SicMonte

12-22-2017, 08:28 PM

failed

SicMonte

12-22-2017, 08:29 PM

failed again.....not sure why it worked in another post but it wont work here.

https://www.facebook.com/michael.weddle.1/videos/1711773372177077/

<iframe src="https://www.facebook.com/plugins/video.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fmi chael.weddle.1%2Fvideos%2F1711773372177077%2F&width=500&show_text=false&height=280&appId" width="500" height="280" style="border:none;overflow:hidden" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allowTransparency="true" allowFullScreen="true"></iframe>

ed1le

12-22-2017, 09:00 PM

That's awesome! The tree tied to the roof is a great touch!

Norm Peterson

12-23-2017, 05:38 AM

failed again.....not sure why it worked in another post but it wont work here.
It still fails if you don't have a FB account. Though I can at least see the tree if I look quickly enough.

Norm

J. Chris Davis

12-23-2017, 07:09 AM

On another forum I had to post the video to my YouTube account then post the link for it.

grendel

12-23-2017, 01:48 PM

Following along. Skimmed the thread, mainly for pics :).

We're building a Monte SS too. I am a Ride Tech and a UMI fan.

SicMonte

07-10-2018, 07:53 PM

PICS ARE BACK!!!!!!!!!

I'll be updating soon!!!

badazz81z28

05-05-2019, 02:27 PM

May I ask, is this reservoir the same size as the plastic one?

Now the never ending drama of the power steering leak. Ever since I got my first Jones Racing p/s pump it has leaked...so annoying!! I sent the first one back and when the new one came in I installed it and it still leaked! I talked to Chris Jones at Jones Racing Products and we found out why....it was all my fault.

Back side of the pump and reservoir.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/04/Picture137-1.jpg

Spring clips on top and bottom that hold on the reservoir.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/04/Picture138-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/04/Picture139-1.jpg

Reservoir is off and I now see what Chris was talking about....
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/04/Picture142-1.jpg

This is the o-ring that seals the reservoir to the pump. I was pulling on the reservoir when I was trying to tighten the belt. This was causing the o-ring to get pinched and ripped just slightly...but under high pressure it was leaking. Now I know...DOH!!!!
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/04/Picture143-2.jpg

Thanks goes out to Chris Jones @ Jones Racing Products for puting up with me and steering me towards the light!!!!!

SicMonte

08-30-2019, 08:19 AM

May I ask, is this reservoir the same size as the plastic one?

Not sure what plastic one you are talking about. I do know that Turn One Steering uses a plastic reservoir in their PS set ups. I am not sure of a size difference though.

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Should I update this page more....or do you all mainly see my updates on Facebook?

Norm Peterson

08-30-2019, 02:15 PM

Should I update this page more....or do you all mainly see my updates on Facebook?
Wouldn't mind seeing the more significant updates here.

Let's just say there's a reason I've never had a facebook presence and leave it at that.

Norm

Streetbu

09-02-2019, 07:06 AM

I see the updates on FB. The general consensus on here is that if it's not a several hundred thousand dollar first gen Camaro build, it doesn't get much attention. I quit updating my build on here, wasn't worth the effort :(

tommycomfort

09-02-2019, 07:30 AM

I still read everyone's updates here but have been horrible about updating my threads also.

SSLance

09-02-2019, 04:19 PM

I still update my threads on the forums...mainly so I can go back myself and remember what I did!! :D

SicMonte

09-25-2019, 04:48 AM

I still update my threads on the forums...mainly so I can go back myself and remember what I did!! :D

I do the same thing!!!! I need to figure out how to post pics up again!!

I also need to start a build thread for the "Sic10".

SicMonte

09-25-2019, 04:50 AM

Wouldn't mind seeing the more significant updates here.

Let's just say there's a reason I've never had a facebook presence and leave it at that.

Norm

I will do that! I have a Holley Sniper EFI set up now...complete with their new EFI gas tank and I have the Holley Digital Dash!

Norm Peterson

09-25-2019, 05:47 AM

... complete with their new EFI gas tank ...
That part must have made the whole EFI conversion way easier/nicer/cleaner than stuffing the EFI pump plus a low pressure pump, a homemade transfer tank and a filter upstream of that . . . all into the spare tire well, and finding a place to plumb the return line to other than back into the transfer tank (think in terms of excessive fuel heating).

Norm

csouth

09-26-2019, 06:26 AM

I still read everyone's updates here but have been horrible about updating my threads also.

You are not alone....

gsxrken

09-26-2019, 06:16 PM

Great to see you still have this car and you’re still all over it! I haven’t been around here much but I still have my Mach 1... 30 years now and I’m still screwing with it. ��
No FB for me. Much prefer forums.

SicMonte

05-20-2020, 04:07 AM

wanted to show you all this video. It's from back in 2017 but is still cool.

US3e_phgY44

JayinMI

05-22-2020, 08:04 AM

I'm intrigued by the "Sic10" I would like to see this.

I don't follow any builds on FB, I don't think. I'm really trying to get away from FB. I really only use it for industry groups, so I'd like to see updates on here.
I know the feeling about nobody following builds on here. I've got my S10 build on 4 different forums, and I think S10forums is the only one that gets any significant traffic.
I posted a link on a couple of forums, to the S10forum post for anyone who *wants* to follow it, in case I don't update it as often as I do there.

Jay