Project BLUEprint, 1965 Falcon

[Bryce]

Project BLUEprint.

The name is from my engineering back ground and the amount of engineer and design work that has gone into this car. The car is BLUE and will be my future template if I ever try to sell some stuff I have designed and fabricated for this car.


I thought i would create a project update to keep myself organized and show off the car.

I have done all the work with my dads help in his garage. It was my first car and has been a 9yr project.


current progress:
SBF pushing 375hp reving 6600rpm.
C4 automatic with red alto steals kolene clutches and a reverse manual valvebody and a 6 gear planetary.
custom aluminum dash and steering column.
wilwood front discs.
i designed my own coilover front suspesnion.
9" ford with 4.11 gears.
lowered about 3" fornt and 2.5" in the back.
race seats.
bolt in aluminum radiator core support for quick engine swaps.
16x7.5 wheels with 245 tires on all four corners.
fiberglass front fonders and hood.
the car weighs 2740lbs.

current projects:
three link rear suspension with watts link.
rack and pinion steering.

[Steve1968LS2]

Cool project.. we just worked with TCI to develop a front and rear suspension for these cars (incluging a rack conversion)..

Cool cars that deserve a little love.

[Bryce]

thanks steve,

what kinda suspension? MII and a four link?

is the rack a rear steer? I remember hearing that a rear steer setup and achieve better ackerman affects.

[Bryce]

new pic at current ride.

I think i will raise the back another 1". it looks to low

[mulisha00]

Just a FYI. As far as pics go I find its much easier to host your pictures at a place like photobucket for free then add them to your post here. You can keep a gallery of all your pics and can access them from anywhere with internet access should you need to and you can actually get a full size picture for us to see. I would love to see some bigger pics of your car.

[John Wright]

new pic at current ride.

I think i will raise the back another 1". it looks to lowI think it is just the body lines messin' with your eye...I think it's sitting level.

[Bryce]

the rocker panels are even with the ground but the top of the rear fender is 1" lower than the top of the front fender.

well anyways I cut the lower blocks in half so now its 1" higher and the body lines look correct.

[John Wright]

Not sure you can go by the fender wheel openings, because the front opening is much larger and taller than the rear.

[Bryce]

not the openings but the actual body line on the top of the fender and quarter panel.

the top part that flatens out

[John Wright]

not the openings but the actual body line on the top of the fender and quarter panel.

the top part that flatens out
ah...that's what I get for speed reading.....LOL

Those vintage cars are pretty neat...really anything almost a half centry old rollin' down the highway is neat. Who am I to call it vintage?...it's the same age as me...LOL

[hechtrod]

Ooh! Lovin' your Falcao! I dig the "NASCAR" look engine bay. Smooth! I dig the suspension and wheels too. At 2700lbs, this should be a blast of a car with 360hp. Geez! Got any incar vid with it revvign to 6600? That'd be cool!

[Bryce]

i dont yet. What is a good camera for that?

i was thinking about getting one of those flip cameras, they now have them in HiDef for $140. then i could get suspension videos and anything else.

[Bryce]

Just a FYI. As far as pics go I find its much easier to host your pictures at a place like photobucket for free then add them to your post here. You can keep a gallery of all your pics and can access them from anywhere with internet access should you need to and you can actually get a full size picture for us to see. I would love to see some bigger pics of your car.



i appreciate the help. Unfortunalty i like to post pics and stuff while i have some breaks at work. and my work comp is blocking all photobucket and sharing sites like that.

so my solution has been to attach some pics and post full size pics in my blog which i can do at work. my sig has the blog site.

[Bryce]

new pic

[Alan66ss]

Your Falcon is really cool. Keep up with pics. Would definitly like to see more.

[WILWAXU]

Cool car! Love the little Falcons!

[Bryce]

My car won a trophy this weekend. "Best Under Construction"

here is a picture of my car, my trophy and my wife.

picture quality is not great, it was taken with my cell phone.

[BADVELLE]

I thought i would create a project update to keep myself organized and show off the car.

I have done all the work with my dads help in his garage. It was my first car and has been a 9yr project.


current progress:
SBF pushing 375hp reving 6600rpm.
C4 automatic with red alto steals kolene clutches and a reverse manual valvebody and a 6 gear planetary.
custom aluminum dash and steering column.
wilwood front discs.
i designed my own coilover front suspesnion.
9" ford with 4.11 gears.
lowered about 3" fornt and 2.5" in the back.
race seats.
bolt in aluminum radiator core support for quick engine swaps.
16x7.5 wheels with 245 tires on all four corners.
fiberglass front fonders and hood.
the car weighs 2740lbs.

current projects:
three link rear suspension with watts link.
rack and pinion steering.

I like the set up under the hood, where did you get those strut braces and plate that is attached to the firewall?

[Justintt]

Nice car...like that it is something different than the norm.

[Bryce]

the strut tower brace is from MPG heads.

[Bryce]

Nice car...like that it is something different than the norm.


thank you.

[Bryce]

i finally have a way to host pics

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[blown9746]

really nice falcon. where in san diego are you?

[Bryce]

really nice falcon. where in san diego are you?


thank you, Im up in north county.

[Bryce]

https://www.pro-touring.com/showthread.php?60220-65-falcon-pro-touring-rendering-help
check out this post!!!!

do to this rendering i bought a R-apron for the falcon, delta bay mustang sells them. I will get it next week. I cant wait. It will look so sweet. I think i will also add the splitter. Make it functional and adjsutable.

[joemac]

That is a really clean engine bay.

[Bryce]

That is a really clean engine bay.


thank you, I built that part of the car first. about 6 years ago now. Looks about the same except for some minor changes.

[windsor]

Which brand are the glass fenders? How was the fit and finish?

Putting a BBF in mine, so wouldn't hurt to get some other weight off the front of the car.

Sweeeet ride!:firefire::firefire:

[Bryce]

Which brand are the glass fenders? How was the fit and finish?

Putting a BBF in mine, so wouldn't hurt to get some other weight off the front of the car.

Sweeeet ride!:firefire::firefire:

thanks Windsor,

I got mine from unlimited products and the hood is crites. The fit is good after you spend 9 hours a fender to make them fit. i still need to fiberglass some studs on there so i can get the correct profile.

again welcome to the site, i saw your other post too. Good luck with your project. and post some pics!

[windsor]

cool man, thanks for the info. I haven't heard good things about Unlimited Products....maybe that 9-hours is testament to that? Are they supposed to be "bolt on"?

Crites, on the other hand, is supposed to be the Holy Grail of Ford repro fiberglass.

[Bryce]

i dont think they are bolt on, all holes need to be drilled and mold lines need to be ground off. The crites hood need a little work. But i got if 80% aligned and installed in less than two hours.

[Bryce]

i bought the r-apron. Here are some pics with my dad holding it in location.

[windsor]

oh dude, that's so flippin' awesome! I can't wait...

does it bolt right on or any mods have to be made?

[Bryce]

i have to make it fit. no mounting points. i have to make brackets and trim and fit. but it looks awesome. I cant wait to get off work and start working on it tonight.

[windsor]

well worth the trouble of installation...it truly sets the normal Falcon apart. Good luck with it!

[Bryce]

absolutely! i will post pics when its done and perfectly fitted.

[windsor]

funny, it looks like it will fit perfect. Where are the issues, not long enough, etc?

[Bryce]

the width of my fenders is wider than the valance. and i cant move the fenders in at all. the grill determines the width of the fenders. also i need to tweak it a little while mounting it so the profiles are correct.

[Bryce]

so new idea to make the valance fit. cut it in the middle and mount both sides individually. fill the center gap with a piece of aluminum 19" wide. the will transition nicely into the radiator and look functional is it would be forcing air into the radiator.

[Bryce]

windsor,

just for you. I put the front valance on this weekend. i have to split it in the middle. its the only way to line them up with the fenders. Each side is mounted on brackets. I still need to fill the gap in the middle. I will get some pics up here soon. But it looks great.

[millerpz]

Have you considered cutting and making the splice at the outer end where the valance makes a dog-leg outward (matches a mustang hood)?

This would allow you to do two things, gain width and smooth the contour to fit the falcon.

Peter

[Bryce]

Have you considered cutting and making the splice at the outer end where the valance makes a dog-leg outward (matches a mustang hood)?

This would allow you to do two things, gain width and smooth the contour to fit the falcon.

Peter


Thats a good thought. I already made the cut in the middle. i agree with the thought follow the falcon shape, but it actually looks really good to me with the mustang hood profile. i dont know why???? but it seams to fit with it on the car. eventhough in my mind it seams akward.

[Bryce]

Milerpz,

just noticed you are new here. Welcome! go introduce yourself and post up whats cars you have.

[windsor]

Nice man, can't wait to see it! I was figuring the easiest way to do that was just to split it in the middle and fill...

I'm sure it looks awesome!

[Bryce]

i will get some pics up tomorrow hopefully. it looks good even with a unfilled gap in the middle.

[windsor]

Hey, did you get an update on this? I didn't notice...

I saw my Falcon for the first time in person yesterday...it's a good solid car to start a build with! :D

[srh3trinity]

The lines of the bumper match up well with the lines of the fender. This is definitely a cool build.

[Bryce]

here are some updates. i have it mounted to the car now and im driving it. but no pictures yet. i still have more work to do. the gap needs filling and i need to attach it to the fenders. also i bought a new fan, a Zirgo black plastic. it is rated at more CFM and might look a little better.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/10/tn_full_10102009038-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/464985)

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[windsor]

Looks very good, even with duct tape! Need to hurry up and get that bad boy buttoned up!

[Bryce]

i know, i had too much come up this weekend. hopefully this weekend i can work on it.

[70Nova4dr]

Looks good, should have been factory. Keep up the good work.

[Bryce]

Looks good, should have been factory. Keep up the good work.


thank you, i like compliments like that.

[1360]

It gives the Falcon a much tougher looking front end.....I like it!

[Bryce]

It gives the Falcon a much tougher looking front end.....I like it!


that what i was thinking, It make it look mean. It is no longer the falcon that your grandma had, HAHA. I get that a lot.

"My so and so had a falcon 6 cylinder when i was young." HAHA.

My car is definetly not what you remember about the falcon you once had.

[Motown 454]

Looks nice.

[Bryce]

thanks wayne

UPDATE:

I spent more time mounting the front valance. I lined up the sides with the fenders. Also strengthen the gap in the middle where i made the cut. I still need to fill it in with fiberglass and completly reinforce the center. i dont know why i am moving so slow on the project. I guess simutaneoulsy helping my dad put on his carbon fiber hood on his mustang this weekend was slowing me down.

I also had an idea of making the center opening smaller. That way it would match up with the radiator better and provide a more streamlined airflow. just a thought.

I know... I will post some current pics.

[windsor]

I know... I will post some current pics.


AHEM!!!

Talked to my builder today and need to get those pics up so I can show them to him!! ;)

How's it coming?

[CruizinKev]

nice man! front bumper looks good on there!!

[Bryce]

sorry for the lack of updates. i was at SEMA two weeks ago then i was sick last week. But i did get my new electric fan mounted. Its an all black Zirgo (3300 cfm) so it looks better and moves more air.

i still have the gap in the center but i will get some pics this week. If I can get off work when its light outside the pics might turn out good.

[fordrule]

awesome build. thats the apron I m putting on my 65 mustang coupe..looks awesome my brother had a 65 that i was going to get but he needed the cash and sold it on me so i got the mustang.

im wanting to redo my suspension since im going from 6 to 8. what parts were used and did u get it all from speedway?

[thetoystore]

love the tear drop hood. but have to ask. why put the hood pins so close together?

[Bryce]

love the tear drop hood. but have to ask. why put the hood pins so close together?


think about the location of the stock hood latch. This is also the location where i have an aluminum insert in the hood for the stock latch. I also thought it looked cool like that.

[Bryce]

the suspension pieces are from speedway, afco and lefthander chassis as well as allstar products.

[Bryce]

awesome build. thats the apron I m putting on my 65 mustang coupe..looks awesome my brother had a 65 that i was going to get but he needed the cash and sold it on me so i got the mustang.

im wanting to redo my suspension since im going from 6 to 8. what parts were used and did u get it all from speedway?


The pieces are not really off the shelf. The upper ball joint holder was purchased as just the screw in holder and i welded on teh tabs for the clevises. The lower control arm consists of a ball joint holder, welded on tab, 1-1/4" DOM tub welded on at an angle to holder and a welded on gusset between the holder and tube. The coilover mounts on the LCA were purchased and welded also the sway bar mounts are just tabs welded on. The swedged steel tube is off the shelf. I wish i could help with part numbers but most of the items are garage built. The coilovers are 20.5" extended length double adjustable AFCOs.

I lowered the UCA 1.75" and 0.21" back. I kept the stock antidive angle and increased the caster and camber gain with the UCA relocation. I now have -0.66* camber gain per inch of drop.

Ask me any questions you have and i will try to help you set something up.

[Bryce]

here are some cell phone pics

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[fordrule]

awesome pics man. wish I knew how to weld or at least had the time to learn. the brackets and all the arms look to be bought and just have to weld them together?

[windsor]

awesome man...I really am liking the valance! How many hours you got into it, you think?

Like the aluminum on your radiator support, too. Is that that just a cover over the sheetmetal?

[RJ66]

Great project, I really like the front end!




Randy(D&Z Customs LLC.)
[email protected]
1-262-347-9741

[Bryce]

Great project, I really like the front end!




Randy(D&Z Customs LLC.)
[email protected]
1-262-347-9741


Thank you!

[Bryce]

awesome man...I really am liking the valance! How many hours you got into it, you think?

Like the aluminum on your radiator support, too. Is that that just a cover over the sheetmetal?


Nope its not a cover. If you scroll back to the engine pics you can see the aluminum tube that goes across the front. i removed all the steel sheetmetal and replaced it with the aluminum. It is much stiffer and looks a lot better. The other nice thing is that it is a bolt in piece so it makes engine swaps a breeze.

[Bryce]

I am probably around ten hours in the valance. I work a little slow, that way i ensure its perfect. That would be an expensive front end if a shop did it at $70-100 an hour.

[windsor]

Nope its not a cover. If you scroll back to the engine pics you can see the aluminum tube that goes across the front. i removed all the steel sheetmetal and replaced it with the aluminum. It is much stiffer and looks a lot better. The other nice thing is that it is a bolt in piece so it makes engine swaps a breeze.

Wow, and what was involved with that? Is it all bolt-in or did you do some welding? Looks very slick either way

[Bryce]

the tube has a 1.5" x .125" aluminum bar welded to it along its length. I think you can see the welds in the pic. Then the side plates (with my trans cooler on the passenger side and my 6AL box on the driver side) are bolted to the aluminum bar and to the remaining steel of the car. The sides are bolted to the headlight bucket steel and the bottom is bolted to the lower front cross member.

[Bryce]

i finally have a way to host pics

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The first pic shows the welds on the tube for the aluminum bar. I guess its aluminum strip since bar is 1/4" or thicker and strip is less than 1/4" thick.

[windsor]

Thanks man, looks great and quite innovative! Your car is gonna be even more awesome when you get it painted.

[Bryce]

Im really trying to decide what my next big project will be. Im thinking color matching the front end. I will paint it myself. Eventually the car will be orange or 2010 mustang grabber blue. I saw a lot of mustang at SEMA painted that color. It looked great, really bright and gets your attention.

[pimtina]

Your car is gonna be even more awesome when you get it painted.

It's awesome right now! Paint is overrated!

[fordrule]

dont you just love the interchangeability of the mustang and falcon

[RJ66]

Im really trying to decide what my next big project will be. Im thinking color matching the front end. I will paint it myself. Eventually the car will be orange or 2010 mustang grabber blue. I saw a lot of mustang at SEMA painted that color. It looked great, really bright and gets your attention.


I would go with the Grabber Blue with some satin black accents.


Randy(D&Z Customs LLC.)
[email protected]
1-262-347-9741

[Bryce]

what are your ideas on the accents? I dont think i would paint all the stainless trim.

Obviously I have the black wheels so I like the look of the black accents.

[RJ66]

I think if you would do some of the grill & if there is some area in the back by the tail lights.


Randy(D&Z Customs LLC.)
[email protected]
1-262-347-9741

[fordrule]

powdercoat the stainless trim black to match the wheels...a little different. and go satin black hood

[Bryce]

I like that idea, but still not sure i could do that to a prefect grill and trim. All the window trim is perfect stainless.

[windsor]

I'm going to powdercoat all the chrome trim...no chrome on mine.

I contacted Delta Bay about the apron and they say it's just drill some holes and it will bolt on...is that the case?

Thanks again.

[Bryce]

100% POSITIVE that it would not just bolt onto my car. It was too high and did not match the fender lines. Also it was too narrow for my car. That is why I split it in the middle. lastly i wanted it mounted as far forward as possible to help with aerodynamics. hey every little helps. HAHA.

i cut off the vertical mounting flange cuz it was ugly.

what color are you going to powder coat your trim.

[windsor]

Thanks for the intel, Bryce. One thing, do you think your fiberglass fenders had anything to do with the bumper not fitting correctly?

I'm going all black on the trim. Unsure of the grill, but the rest will be black.

[Bryce]

i dont think my fenders affected the width of the valance. The stone guard had the same alignment with the steel fenders and the fiberglass fenders.

[csx4766]

Really like the racer slant. Heading in the same direction with my 67 Mustang.

Morgan

[windsor]

i dont think my fenders affected the width of the valance. The stone guard had the same alignment with the steel fenders and the fiberglass fenders.

Thanks again..I'll ask about this and see what they say. Or, have you already done that?

[Bryce]

i recorded some audio of my car pulling 6400 rpm.

Does anybody know how to post it. I used my cellphone and its a .wav file.

[gtnrb71]

Falcon 65 I am interested in doing a similar front suspension on my 68 mustang with the same control arms... how did you mount the upper control arms all I can find are arms with mounts with 6 inch centers where as the mustangs (and I think falcons) are 5 inches center to center of mount bolts? Did you have something fabbed? thanks

[Bryce]

I made both control arms.


The bolt spacing on the falcon is 3.75"

[Bryce]

So I have been slacking on this project, sorry to the few of you that have been following it. I was busy with the 65 mustang coilover suspension that i designed and fabricated and installed.

Anyway, sort of an update. I ordered the heidts subframe connectors from a sponsor here, Route 66. I got a 10% discount which ended up being a 25% discount off of heidts prices. From all the pics i have seen of SFC for falcons these look the strongest to me. The SFCs look great. good fabrication and welds. I hope they fit well. I have never seen a picture with them installed.

Well i got those a few days ago, trial fit tonight when i get off work. the plan is to fit them then paint them. With those installed i can plan my 3-link upper link chassis mount. It will tie into the SFCs and the frame, this will give the appropriate triangulation. This was the last piece I needed to finish the design.

One step closer, I am excited. I still have some the fiberglass to finish on the mustang valance that I recently finished. I have to install the LED turn signals as well. But after that I will paint all the fiberglass my self. Just take it off and do it right. I recently sold the trim on the trunk for $450. So I will either fill the holes and paint the trunk too or go with a fiberglass trunk lid. I always want to save weight.

Thanks for following my build more updates this weekend. i will take some pictures from the sunday carshow. Dont worry I am going before the chargers play. HAHA.

[fordsbyjay]

Looking good.

[Bryce]

Thanks Jason,

I test fitted the heidts SFC they fit great. Im super happy. I will have pics when I put them in.

[windsor]

HEY....NO SLACKING!!! ;-)

The guy doing the body work received the apron for mine too....can't wait to see it.

[Bryce]

Very cool Windsor, I would like to see how it mounts up. post lots of pics!!!

[fordsbyjay]

Thanks Jason,

I test fitted the heidts SFC they fit great. Im super happy. I will have pics when I put them in.

It's good to hear something actually fit a Falcon. When I get my car done everything will be available for Falcons then. :yum:

[Bryce]

It's good to hear something actually fit a Falcon. When I get my car done everything will be available for Falcons then. :yum:

Yep, falcons are just different enough from mustangs that they get left out. Heidts did a great job with these.

[Bryce]

So this weekend I will finish up the front valance. It needs some fiberglass work and filling and sanding.

then remount drive to car show. Come home take it off and paint it. put in the LED blinkers mount the horn and it will be done.

Then I can start on the SFC next week.

[Bjkadron]

Nice! Don't forget to post pictures so we can see!

[Bryce]

I will dont worry. I have a few taken with my wifes new DSLR (merry christmas). I will get some more with it complete.

[windsor]

Can't wait to see pics. My builder received the valance and said it's very nice fiberglass work and was impressed. He's pretty good (did project Evade) so I was glad to hear that from him. Hopefully, it has a bit better fitment than your experience. We'll see!

[Bryce]

where did you order from?

I wanna see pics when you get it installed.

[windsor]

same as you I believe, Delta Bay directly.

Will definitely get pics....when he sends them to me :(

[Bryce]

yep Delta Bay.

[Bryce]

here some more pics!! All pics taken with my wifes new canon eos XS


https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_test_lab_pics_011jpg_Thumbnail1-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/490044)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_test_lab_pics_010jpg_Thumbnail1-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/490043)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_test_lab_pics_014jpg_Thumbnail1-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/490047)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_test_lab_pics_015jpg_Thumbnail1-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/490048)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_test_lab_pics_016jpg_Thumbnail1-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/490049)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_test_lab_pics_018jpg_Thumbnail1-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/490051)
That was a good shot of my custom made aluminum radiator core support.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_test_lab_pics_017jpg_Thumbnail1-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/490050)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_test_lab_pics_020jpg_Thumbnail1-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/490053)
backside of valance to show stiffening.

Pics from the charity car show last weekend
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_test_lab_pics_023jpg_Thumbnail1-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/490056)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_test_lab_pics_025jpg_Thumbnail1-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/490058)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_test_lab_pics_026jpg_Thumbnail1-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/490059)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_test_lab_pics_027jpg_Thumbnail1-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/490060)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_test_lab_pics_031jpg_Thumbnail1-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/490064)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_test_lab_pics_033jpg_Thumbnail1-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/490066)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_test_lab_pics_032jpg_Thumbnail1-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/490065)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_test_lab_pics_053jpg_Thumbnail1-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/490086)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_test_lab_pics_054jpg_Thumbnail1-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/490087)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_test_lab_pics_055jpg_Thumbnail1-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/490088)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_test_lab_pics_056jpg_Thumbnail1-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/490089)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_test_lab_pics_057jpg_Thumbnail1-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/490090)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_test_lab_pics_058jpg_Thumbnail1-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/490091)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_test_lab_pics_059jpg_Thumbnail1-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/490092)

[Bjkadron]

Nice! Looking good!

[windsor]

wow, thing looks super mean. With those 2 'triangles' that can be seen from either side of the split down the middle of the grill (is that the e-fan bracket?), it looks like it's gonna eat ya!

Looks really really really good!!!

edit: and don't keep me waiting that long for pics again ;) ha

[CruizinKev]

looks good :twothumbs

[Bryce]

wow, thing looks super mean. With those 2 'triangles' that can be seen from either side of the split down the middle of the grill (is that the e-fan bracket?), it looks like it's gonna eat ya!

Looks really really really good!!!

edit: and don't keep me waiting that long for pics again ;) ha


HAHA, the teeth!! those are the fan mounting brackets, I think it looks cool, but they will be painted black.

I will try to keep pics coming more reguraly. I am working about 60-70 hours a week now and the wife still likes to see me ocasionally, so my time is precious when I get to work on the car.

[Bjkadron]

HAHA, the teeth!! those are the fan mounting brackets, I think it looks cool, but they will be painted black.

I will try to keep pics coming more reguraly. I am working about 60-70 hours a week now and the wife still likes to see me ocasionally, so my time is precious when I get to work on the car.

EXCUSES EXCUSES!!!! HAHA! Just kidding... I know what you mean, I go to school full time and work a regular Job.

[Bryce]

congrats on School and working. I put myself through school working at a hardware store. I still work at the hardware store on saturdays, I like working there, its a little extra cash and I like my discount. Plus they have an onsite engineer to answer all the technical questions. HAHA

[Bjkadron]

Yeah... I work at a Body shop and I like it. Plus my boss is very understanding! I almost make enough to keep up with expenses but my Duster loves to drink gas and I have a 100+ mi. round trip. What kind of hardware store has an onsite engineer?

[Bryce]

I was kinda kidding, but alot of guys come in on saturdays to get my opinions on things (since im a full time engineer working for an aerospace company). So i end up doing a lot of smaller design problems and problem solving while i work at the hardware store.

[hivewax]

Wow, that's a first for me in seeing a custom aluminum radiator support. How involved was it... hours of labor, tools involved, etc? Please post up any close-up shots.

[Bjkadron]

I was kinda kidding, but alot of guys come in on saturdays to get my opinions on things (since im a full time engineer working for an aerospace company). So i end up doing a lot of smaller design problems and problem solving while i work at the hardware store.

Ahhh! haha! Sorry, that went right over my head. By the way, Are those the wheels you are going to keep on it? or are you planning something different?

[MCMLXIX]

Are you plannig on filling the gap between the grill and the valance? Under the headlight area and where it meets the fender...

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_test_lab_pics_017jpg_Thumbnail1-1.jpg

[JJEH]

Nice project... wish you alot of fun in the future with it :)

[wellis77]

I've been watching your project for a while Bryce and I really like you've done. Great job!

[Bryce]

I've been watching your project for a while Bryce and I really like you've done. Great job!


Thanks Will, it keeps getting closer to being closer to being never finsihed. HAHA.

[Bryce]

Are you plannig on filling the gap between the grill and the valance? Under the headlight area and where it meets the fender...

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_test_lab_pics_017jpg_Thumbnail1-1.jpg

I have considered it. I have also considered bringing the opening in the valance in and up to match the radiator cutout. But then I desided to put a intercooler there. SO i guess my car will get a supercharger at some point HAHA. SO i guess I will wait to do the intercooler then determine what it needs to look perfect.

[Bryce]

Wow, that's a first for me in seeing a custom aluminum radiator support. How involved was it... hours of labor, tools involved, etc? Please post up any close-up shots.


I would saw fairly complex. I did this 7 years ago when I was 19. I didnt even have a bandsaw yet. The aluminum was cut with a jigsaw and filed/sanded to fit. There are a few tricks to the install that arent seen in pictures. But its completely unboltable (new word, HAHA) so the motor comes out the front for quicker changes, I have a 550-600hp race motor. Its also a lot stiffer with the aluminum tube going across the top. It took awhile to get it perfect. I would guess a few weeks, from memory. But I designed it to be built with the basic tools that I have. The trans cooler is on the passanger side and my MSD 6AL is on the driver side. So that defined the max radiator width.

[Bryce]

Ahhh! haha! Sorry, that went right over my head. By the way, Are those the wheels you are going to keep on it? or are you planning something different?

I like the wheels the look and fit great, but they are heavy. i will probably go 15 or 16s and some cot race tire. like the toyo 888 (245/45/16) or the BFG R1 (235/50/15).

[Jim Nilsen]

Wow, that's a first for me in seeing a custom aluminum radiator support. How involved was it... hours of labor, tools involved, etc? Please post up any close-up shots.

It's really nice ,isn't it!

You can also see another custom radiator support if you look around for my pics. They are a lot easier to do and a lot less expensive than you might think if you look for materials on the cheap in a scrap yard. Companies throw away machines and other equipment all of the time that have more aluminum of all the sizes and types you are looking for and you buy it by the pound. the tools needed to work with aluminum are the same as working with wood and sheetmetal.

[Bryce]

jim,

I wanted to see pics of yours but I couldnt find it on your website. Do you have any pics?

[Jim Nilsen]

jim,

I wanted to see pics of yours but I couldnt find it on your website. Do you have any pics?

I have pics in a bunch of places, around here. What pics would you like to see the most and I will post them. I have more room since Larry gave me the space. I have always had to delete and add until now.

I really do need to update my Angelfire website as it is way out of date. I am now just getting back to the real world after being considered a deadman by my doctors.LOL

You just can't get rid of a man who has a car that needs to be finished first!!!!!

Let me know if you have any special places you want to see and I will post it, I have hundreds if not thousands of pics.

Life is starting to get a lot better now and it is peoples interest that keeps me going the most. Also seeing cars like yours lets me know that there are people out here that think out of the box and simple is the best and that is what we all live for around here .


:cheers:

[Jim Nilsen]

jim,

I wanted to see pics of yours but I couldnt find it on your website. Do you have any pics?

I am going to bump up my thread so you can find most of them.

I'm in the thread.
Getting Closer.......

[Bryce]

jim,

i am glad you are back and able to work on your car. I will go check out your progress.

I was curious on the style of your aluminum radiator support.

[Bryce]

So I finished the valance fiberglass and everything is smooth and filled. I also primed it in gray to match the front end. HAHA. the LED turn signals are going in this weekend. and its ready to be installed. I cant wait to take some pics.

[windsor]

I cant wait to take some pics.

and I can't wait to see 'em! Also can't wait for my builder to send me some of my car, too.:seizure:

[Bryce]

how far along is your builder?

[windsor]

it's all still in the mock up stages...he had to mount some new quarter panels because the guy I purchased the car from was doing more of the 'gasser' thing with the cut outs (which I think is fugly). Put in the MII front end and doing the mini-tub, cage, all the chassis and body work basically. Not going to have it painted yet #1) to save money for now 2)not exactly sure what scheme I want yet 3) it may be 2 years before I'm ready to start putting it together.

[Bluekoop]

Love the car mate, I'm also a Falcon owner.... but a 1973 Aussie Falcon Coupe. Thought you might be interested in what over here we have done with the continuation of the falcon. http://www.fpv.com.au/index.aspx

[Bryce]

Some new pics no paticular order. Engine, Valance, Radiator core support and suspension.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_new_falcon_pics_21610_027jpg_Thu-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/493453)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_new_falcon_pics_21610_026jpg_Thu-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/493452)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_new_falcon_pics_21610_025jpg_Thu-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/493451)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_new_falcon_pics_21610_024jpg_Thu-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/493450)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_new_falcon_pics_21610_023jpg_Thu-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/493449)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_new_falcon_pics_21610_021jpg_Thu-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/493447)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_new_falcon_pics_21610_022jpg_Thu-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/493448)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_new_falcon_pics_21610_019jpg_Thu-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/493445)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_new_falcon_pics_21610_018jpg_Thu-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/493444)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_new_falcon_pics_21610_014jpg_Thu-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/493440)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_new_falcon_pics_21610_015jpg_Thu-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/493441)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_new_falcon_pics_21610_013jpg_Thu-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/493439)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_new_falcon_pics_21610_012jpg_Thu-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/493438)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_new_falcon_pics_21610_011jpg_Thu-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/493437)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_new_falcon_pics_21610_009jpg_Thu-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/493435)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_new_falcon_pics_21610_007jpg_Thu-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/493433)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_new_falcon_pics_21610_005jpg_Thu-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/493431)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_new_falcon_pics_21610_003jpg_Thu-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/493429)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_new_falcon_pics_21610_002jpg_Thu-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/493428)

[windsor]

Bro...looks awesome! Moving right along it is...

My radiator support isn't even cut out yet so I'll make the opening the same width as the opening in the apron, even though it'll all be black, but I can fit a bigger radiator in there, too.

Again, looks awesome! When you going to start on the rear bumper?

[Bryce]

Bro...looks awesome! Moving right along it is...

My radiator support isn't even cut out yet so I'll make the opening the same width as the opening in the apron, even though it'll all be black, but I can fit a bigger radiator in there, too.

Again, looks awesome! When you going to start on the rear bumper?

Thanks!!

I think it would look better if the radiator was as wide as the cut out in the valance. But it is perfect width for my intercooler, HAHA i guess i will supercharge this motor.

I really want to see some moc up pics of yours.

[Bryce]

Love the car mate, I'm also a Falcon owner.... but a 1973 Aussie Falcon Coupe. Thought you might be interested in what over here we have done with the continuation of the falcon. http://www.fpv.com.au/index.aspx

thanks for the link, some cool cars you guys have! LUCKY! Too bad I dont remeber my conversions for Kw to Hp. HAHA.

[windsor]

Do you have more info on your dash? More interior pics in general?

[Bryce]

I should have some more pics. What do you want to know about the dash?

[CruizinKev]

very nice! even the black colored 16" waffles look good! I need to paint my set too :)

[SDS MACHINING]

This is looking really good, Excellent attention to details, fit and finish. Nice work on the dash and a perfect match with the steering wheel as well. :twothumbs

[Bryce]

very nice! even the black colored 16" waffles look good! I need to paint my set too :)

good eye kev,

those are the stock wheels off my 95 mustang DD i just got the powder coated.

[Bryce]

This is looking really good, Excellent attention to details, fit and finish. Nice work on the dash and a perfect match with the steering wheel as well. :twothumbs

thank you. The wheel started out polished and i modifed the horn button as well. The theme of the car is a satin finish on all exposed aluminum.

[Bjkadron]

Are those lights or switches in the middle of the dash?

[syclonetommy]

and I can't wait to see 'em! Also can't wait for my builder to send me some of my car, too.:seizure:

Dam,....... Builders, dropping the ball on pic's:)


Tom Argue

[windsor]

yep...what a slacker!


No worries Tom...you know how anxious customers can be. I'm in no rush, as you know.

[Bryce]

Are those lights or switches in the middle of the dash?

Lights. they match the orientation of the gauges. The low oil ligh tis in the same position as the oil pressure gauge. The altenator light corresponds to the voltmeter. The other two are blinkers and high beams. My switches are hidden in the ashtray.

[Bjkadron]

Lights. they match the orientation of the gauges. The low oil ligh tis in the same position as the oil pressure gauge. The altenator light corresponds to the voltmeter. The other two are blinkers and high beams. My switches are hidden in the ashtray.

That is a Good Idea! Very nice!

[Bryce]

thanks Benjamin

[windsor]

have any photos from the side on a flat surface?

[Bryce]

Windsor,

I will get one. The top of the valance is fairly horizontal. slopes down in the front slightly not as much as other mustangs I have seen with this valance.

[windsor]

cool...thanks Bryce. John

[Bryce]

john,

how is yours coming along?

[windsor]

Should be coming along nicely. Being overseas for a while I'm not on a timeline, so it's not on Tom's front burner, which is fine. As of now, he's going to get it to 'rolling' state with epoxy primer so when I get back I do all the assembly. Yes, I'm an assembler...ha! Either way I know it's in good hands over there. Check out his site at www.tomarguedesign.com

I'll post some pics soon.

In the mean time, keep your thread going!

[Bryce]

Im painting my subframes connectors tonight with some self etching weld through primer.

I will be bolting them in while I plan the rest of the car around them. My front drive shaft loop and rear third link crossmember will be tying into them. But I will need to take them in and out a few time before I can final weld them to the car. The weld through primer will ensure that the back side of the SFCs will be protected.

[Bryce]

John,

here is the picture you wanted.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_IMG_0816JPG_Thumbnail1-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/495780)

[Bryce]

I painted the subframe connectors and got the blinkers all wired up and the horn mounted and wired.

Pictures:

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_IMG_0814JPG_Thumbnail1-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/495778)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_IMG_0815JPG_Thumbnail1-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/495779)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_IMG_0818JPG_Thumbnail1-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/495782)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/tn_full_IMG_0817JPG_Thumbnail1-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/495781)

[Bjkadron]

looking good! Keep up the great work!

[windsor]

John,

here is the picture you wanted.



Thanks Bryce...looks even better than I thought it would from that angle. Doesn't stick out as far, which is good. Flows well with the contour of the point of the fender.

I like it more and more very time I see it.

[Bryce]

Thanks Bryce...looks even better than I thought it would from that angle. Doesn't stick out as far, which is good. Flows well with the contour of the point of the fender.

I like it more and more very time I see it.


You're welcome. I really like the way it has turned out. I am still going to do some reshaping when I go to final paint. I want a little better fit to the fender and I have to decide what to do with the gap between the grill. But all in all it looks really good right now. It was at least 50 hours. Some of that was just staring and pondering. But it was a long process to get it to where I really like it.

[Bjkadron]

I want a little better fit to the fender and I have to decide what to do with the gap between the grill.

I have two ideas.. For the gap between the grill that is.

1. Use mesh and make a whole piece to fill in between the grill and the "bumper" and continue it all the way down (in the middle too)

2. make a "filler panel" that goes between the bumper and the grille and continues all the way across. you could even make a relief to match the radiator cutout in the middle. My duster has a piece like this and it would be relatively simple to make.

I vote #2 for better aero and cleaner look. Just my oppinion though.

[Bryce]

I got one SFC put in late thursday night. The weekend got rained out so no work on the car. Hopefully SFC 2 goes in tuesday night after work.

I will have pics of that soon.

[rrunner68]

Bryce, when you gonna stop goofing around with that thing and come out and break some stuff?

[Bryce]

I want to.

I cant wait to have some fun at SCCA, I need to get some things done first. Like the SFCs and other little things. It should pass tech now with no issues. When is the next one? I will be drag racing on the March 21.

[injcted]

The R-Model valance really loks good im suprised how it flows into the fenders

[Bryce]

Thanks buddy. I think it looks awesome! I love the look.

[rrunner68]

Next event will be DCCSD Champs on the 14th. Be there or be square.

[Bryce]

My DD 95 mustang had a blow out last night on the way home from work. So I had to waste the night I get to work on the falcon to fix the mustang. I was hoping to get the driver side subframe connector installed. Well, maybe thursday?????

[Bryce]

I broke my B&M hammer shifter last weekend. So I ordered the Hurst pistol grip quarter stick with momentary switch for the line lock. Its going in this weekend.

[Bryce]

I decided on the final wheels for this car. Centerline autodrags as seen in the avatar picture are only 13lbs a wheel and can take the abuse of a street/track car. So I plan on running the toyo R888s with a 235/50/15 tire on a 7" rim. This will be on all four corners. When I get around to the minitub and relocating my 3 link LCAs inboard I will switch to the nitto555R in either a 275 or 325. probably the 275 on an 8.5" centerline.

[Bryce]

I got the SFC installed both sides. Pics this week.... hopefully.

Summit delivered my new pistol grip shifter last week so I will get it installed this week and be able to flog teh car again and test my new shift light.

[Bryce]

Im getting excited about the new tire swap. I just need to pull the black wheels off and put them back on my 95 mustang, but they get atleast two new tires. Then buy two new centerlines 7" wide and pull the centerlines off my 95 mustang and buy four toyo R888 235/50/15 for the four centerlines and install on falcon. Im predicting about 1500 total for this entire swap.

[Bryce]

I installed the new shifter. Much better than the B&M hammer shifter that I previously put in. I think it even shifts faster, HAHA. There is less force needed to shift so I can actually pull it faster.

I also found that centerline offers a 15x9" wheel with a 7.25" backspace. That will work perfect for car in the back, since i have a stock width 9" housing. Once I do a minitub and fabricate the 3-link i will have room for that and a 275 tire.

[syclonetommy]

and I can't wait to see 'em! Also can't wait for my builder to send me some of my car, too.:seizure:

Dam builder's,,:bsjerk: john i'm posting them on my web. site this week.

we are working on it, starting to look like something.

Tom Argue

[windsor]

Sounds good, Tom. Looking forward to seeing em. JP

[Bryce]

I havent had a chance to work on the car in a long time. Spent all weekend shopping for furniture. I guess in the long run buying a house was the right choice, HAHA.

Since I have no money anymore, damn house, I guess i will be doing projects that dont cost much. Cleaning things up maybe painting my front end myself, building door panels. The list goes on. hopefully I will work on it this summer.

[windsor]

What is this "hopefully" stuff? We fellow PTers demand you work on it!


Congrats on the house ;)

[John Wright]

What is this "hopefully" stuff? We fellow PTers demand you work on it!


Congrats on the house ;)+1......"hopefully" you will keep us updated.

[Bryce]

With the new car on the board named "unfair" maybe I should name my car "hopefully"

Since I now have a garage (or I will in 2 more weeks) i should be able to do small projects that I have been putting off in the free time that I have.

[Bryce]

Im at work on a saturday. So no working on the car today.

But I have been semi productive. Im working on design for a new rear suspension on the 65 mustang.

[Bryce]

Sounds good, Tom. Looking forward to seeing em. JP

i saw the new pics on the website of your falcon. Im bummed you went MII. I also am still waiting on your valance pictures.

[windsor]

Well, to fit the BBF it was pretty much the most proven and easiest way to do things. They still do work well for what they are.

Also, this will be more of a straight line/weekend cruise car, definitely not pro-touring.

[Bryce]

Well, to fit the BBF it was pretty much the most proven and easiest way to do things. They still do work well for what they are.

Also, this will be more of a straight line/weekend cruise car, definitely not pro-touring.

Very true. The MII will work as a street drag setup. Are you planning on andding any extra bracing to the front frame since you removed the shock towers?

[windsor]

Yeah, would like some roll bar extension from the firewall to the front frame rail, but under the fender so you can't see them in the engine bay.

[Bryce]

So I bought my first house. The wife and I moved in last week. I epoxied the garage floor gloss gray without the flake. Luckily the house was move in ready. I will post some pictures this weekend with the falcon sitting in the garage on the new floor.

[1BAGTO]

Can't wait to see em bud, car looks great!

[windsor]

hey man, congrats! good time to buy a house ;)

can't wait to see the pics of the bird in the new garage!

[Bjkadron]

Nice! It must be awesome to actually have a Garage!

[Bryce]

Yep, but i still dont think it will be my shop. I will probably have to go back to my dads house/garage for the near future. I cant afford to duplicate all the tools we have collected over the years. At least he is only 2.5 miles away from me. But my cars can all be IN the garage now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GrabberGT]

Yep, but i still dont think it will be my shop. I will probably have to go back to my dads house/garage for the near future. I cant afford to duplicate all the tools we have collected over the years. At least he is only 2.5 miles away from me. But my cars can all be IN the garage now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You're lucky. I wish my Dad lived so close. We spend what seems like hours a day talking cars on the phone and how great it would be if he lived close enough we could work on them together. He's a truck driver so occasionally he gets to stop by and wrench with me for a day. Congrats and enjoy.

[Bryce]

You're lucky. I wish my Dad lived so close. We spend what seems like hours a day talking cars on the phone and how great it would be if he lived close enough we could work on them together. He's a truck driver so occasionally he gets to stop by and wrench with me for a day. Congrats and enjoy.

Yep, Im lucky. We do all the building at his house. we have done 4 cars together now.

[Bryce]

so the house has been taking all my time. Falcon has been driven and thats it. But my next project will be the new rear suspension for the 65 mustang. It will be a bolt in 4-link with great anti-squat for drag racing, completly adjustable with a longer SVSA length than any system currently on the market. i will also be running a watts link and huge rear sway bar.

[Bjkadron]

so the house has been taking all my time. Falcon has been driven and thats it. But my next project will be the new rear suspension for the 65 mustang. It will be a bolt in 4-link with great anti-squat for drag racing, completly adjustable with a longer SVSA length than any system currently on the market. i will also be running a watts link and huge rear sway bar.

The huge bar to keep it launching straight? do you need that with a 4-link if it cancels the driveshaft torque?

[Bryce]

The huge bar to keep it launching straight? do you need that with a 4-link if it cancels the driveshaft torque?


Yes, It will give me one more tuning feature, makes the set up more adjustable.

[72mach1]

Hey Bryce. Love the car. Amd thanks for pointing me here for suspension tips. Brian

[Bryce]

finally some garage pics of my new place!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/07/tn_full_IMG_1164-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/547584)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/07/tn_full_IMG_1173-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/547585)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/07/tn_full_IMG_1171-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/547588)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/07/tn_full_IMG_1166-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/547587)

[chunger]

Looks like there's plenty of room around the Falcon for parts, tools and everything else that ends up in the garage!

[Bryce]

Looks like there's plenty of room around the Falcon for parts, tools and everything else that ends up in the garage!

Lots of room, but my mustang and dakota live in there and take up all the room for tools. The falcon has another location for storage.

[rrunner68]

Awesome dude. Looks great.

[Bryce]

Thanks Dan!

[badbu68]

Looks great, love the hood!

[Bryce]

Thanks badbu, I have a carbon fiber one for a 65 mustang so the cars can match.

[Bryce]

I keep changing my mind on wheels. Here is what I am currently thinking.

http://www.tswalloywheels.com/alloy_wheels_nurburgring.php

Its a TSW wheel.

http://www.tiresdirect.net/TOYO_Proxes_R888_245_40ZR17_91_P5093.cfm

Also I found this seller for R888s at really good prices. I would like to have this combo.

245s on the front

http://www.tiresdirect.net/TOYO_Proxes_R888_275_40ZR17_98_P4744C789.cfm

http://www.tiresdirect.net/TOYO_Proxes_R888_315_35ZR17_10_P5094C789.cfm

And one of those on the rear. Obviously after I do my minitub and 3-link.

[19,69camaro]

That should look great I love the look of those wheels

[Bjkadron]

Those will look pretty mean!

[Bryce]

thanks guys, I think it will really change the style of the car.

I just need to do the minitub and 3-link first. then I can figure out a rear tire size.

I am hoping to get this wheel with a silver or aluminum hoop, maybe a brushed hoop, with a matte black center.

[Bjkadron]

thanks guys, I think it will really change the style of the car.

I just need to do the minitub and 3-link first. then I can figure out a rear tire size.

I am hoping to get this wheel with a silver or aluminum hoop, maybe a brushed hoop, with a matte black center.

Yeah By the time I build the three-link and minitub mine I will be able to fit a 345 with plenty of clearance (275's fit Stock!). Dusters have a lot of rear clearance. Your falcon doesn't look like it was blessed like that from the factory.

[Bryce]

You are lucky, a minitub will let me fit a 295 maybe. but a 315 will require some frame notching. The main issue is the rear quarter is not a radiused wheel well. I am covering about 1/3 of my wheel now.

[Bjkadron]

How is the front spacing? Dusters can fit 245's and 275's fit but can rub occasionally. It is kinda strange that two cars that are almost the same size have TOTALLY different clearance for tires.

[Bryce]

With my front suspension I can fit a 245 and still have the stock steering travel with no interference or rub. But with as light as my car is a 245 will be plenty.

[Bjkadron]

What is your target weight?

[Bryce]

Im at 2690 now. In the 2590 range would be cool.

I might be stopping progress on this car to take on a new challenge. jooint venture with one of my dads cars. I handle suspension/chassis/ and aerodynamics.

The car is already a offset rear 3-link. ford powered. and 2600lbs. Target weight would be under 2100. Steel body......




So I have to figure out all logistics and plans for this car in the next couple weeks and decide what I will do.

[Bryce]

So a good weekend, two cars shows. One at JBA in san diego. The second at daltons. The falcon won a trophy at daltons so that was cool!

[chunger]

Let the collection begin!

[fordsbyjay]

Bryce do you know what the inside measurements are for your valence? I have a wider radiator in my car and I was wondering how it would look. Also, did you have to have to wait long when you ordered your hood from Crites? I have not been hearing kind things about their customer service lately.

[Bryce]

I have a friend that is a crites dealer. The wait was about 4 weeks. I love my hood. I had it on my car in a few hours after I got it home.

I will need to measure the width. Form memory its 20" I widened it 3/4"

[fordsbyjay]

Is he still a dealer because I would like to order one?

[Bryce]

I will find out for you. his company name used to AFX TC. In san diego.

[Bryce]

So the complete 3-link plan has been put on paper. Front cross member for the UCA chassis mount will be first and design will start on tomorrow.

The only dilema I have is the tore I want to run. I need to nail down a tire diameter. I know what width I can fit. I guess I will run a 25.6 diameter tire and a 245 in the front maybe a 275 in the back. Some good progress pics will be up soon.

I will post my geometry this weekend!

[ho428]

Nice ride you're building.
Ran across this the other day, not a Falcon but a 64 Fairlane. Thought it might um... inspire you a little.

Article:
http://www.hotrod.com/featuredvehicles/hdrp_0605_1964_holman_moody_ford_fairlane/index.html

Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WRgybAyc6Y&feature=channel

[Bryce]

gordon,

that is a really nice car. thanks for the link.

[Bjkadron]

Two questions...

Where is the geometry for your three link?

And How did you attach your aluminum core support?

[Bryce]

Two questions...

Where is the geometry for your three link?

And How did you attach your aluminum core support?

My dad bought a car this weekend, 1965 ranchero (the new tow vehicle after we build it), so I have bee distracted and did not spend enough time plotting out suspension. I will be working it tonight tho.

My aluminum core support is bolted on; therefore, it is easily removeable for engine swaps. There are a couple of tricks in the design that I have no pictures of.

[Bjkadron]

Cool tow vehicle!

I thought it looked like it was bolted. But did you reinforce the sheetmetal or is it not loadbearing anymore. Seems like it might be inclined to rip.

[Bryce]

If you look closer, I would post a pic but im on my phone, you will see the tube on top is the load bearing structure. The tube is bolted and the connection is reinforced. The plates are really just stiffeners. And there is no issue with ripping out. There has been zero change in plate locations and no hole oblonging.

[Bryce]

So as of yesterday I have a new direction with my 3-link. This will probably save me 30-40 hours of fabrication. I am exicted. I will post pictures when I can.

[Bryce]

So the TSW wheels have way too much B/S and wont work on my car. So now I am rethinking everything, still trying to fit within the budget. Here is my new plan... http://centerlinewheels.com/wheels_detail.php?mw_id=117&sw_id=946

these wheels 17 x 8 in the front and 17 x 9.5 in the back with these tires...http://www.falkentire.com/Tires/Passenger-Car/Azenis-RT-615K-14 245 and 275

Maybe these tires would work too...http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Pilot+Sport+PS2&partnum=445YR7SPORTPS2&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes

So what do you think? I need to pull the trigger soon. I guess I will be calling Jon at drivers Inc on monday.

[CruizinKev]

I think they're much better than the TSW wheels!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

:twothumbs

[chunger]

Neat wheels. I like!

[Bryce]

Thanks guys, they are growing on my.

[carnalsupply]

Hey Bryce,

How about something along the same lines as the TSW but with a cast (mag look) center and polished lip - the old school but still great looking Halibrand Kidney Bean:


https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/08/KidneyBean-1.jpg

[Bryce]

Hey Bryce,

How about something along the same lines as the TSW but with a cast (mag look) center and polished lip - the old school but still great looking Halibrand Kidney Bean:


https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/08/KidneyBean-1.jpg


Looks good what the weight of that wheel?

The centerline wheel only weighs 18 lbs for a 17x 8

[carnalsupply]

Wouldn't you know it, I just went to the Halibrand site and it says the Kidney Beans are temporarily out of production! My advice would be to contact them via phone and find out what's up, or contact Wheelvintques (http://wheelvintiques.myshopify.com/products/billet-lakster-5-lug-88-series) about their billet "Lakester", which is a knock-off of the Halibrand. You could have the center of the Lakester powder-coated or sand-blasted to kill the billet bling and leave the polished lip.

I don't know the weight but I'm sure the guys at Wheelvintiques would have it readily available.

BTW - My wife came home this weekend and told me about a '66 Fairlane, original 289/manual car with black interior; told me I should buy it! I think my wife's taken up crack, she's NEVER told me to buy a car before! I might have to check it out and put a pair of Lakesters on it myself!

[Bryce]

Bob,

I appreciate your help, those are out of my price range at the moment and I need wheels stat. Another project is stealing the wheels of the falcon.

Well I pulled the trigger and ordered the front wheels from centerline with a custom finish. Supposedly you can only get the custom finish if you order directly from centerline. I should see them in a few weeks.

[Bryce]

So I put up 5 more flourescent fixtures in the garage, super bright now, I love it. The falcon comes over tomorrow and rear suspension will commence. Hopefully wednesday I will have some good pics to show. I will show the geometry graphs. Everything always takes longer than I think it will.

[ho428]

Ran across this today, more inspiration.

http://bringatrailer.com/2010/08/31/bat-exclusive-1965-mercury-comet-track-car/

[DynoDon]

Ran across this today, more inspriation.

http://bringatrailer.com/2010/08/31/bat-exclusive-1965-mercury-comet-track-car/
That's pretty cool (excpet maybe the color)

[Bryce]

Thanks for the link!! Cool car and I kinda like the color.

[Bryce]

The falcon is at my house, safe in the garage. I measured rocker flange height at ride then lifted the car on jackstands. I lifted front and back the same. This way I can make accurate measurements from the ground.

Wheels are off and went to my dads new ranchero. My front wheels are on order. Hopefully moking up the fronts this weekend!

The car looks really good in my garage. The new garage lights work great, no dark spots.

[fordrule]

crites performance parts http://tiptopwebsite.com/websites/index2.php?username=colson43&page=5. this place had a ton of falcon and comet parts. and I remember reading that you were wanting to get more fiberglass parts...

[Bryce]

I have a crites hood. And fiberglass fenders from unlimited products and front valance. The only thing left is a trunk lid. I might be getting that from crites at some point in the future!

Thanks for the link.

[fordsbyjay]

crites performance parts http://tiptopwebsite.com/websites/index2.php?username=colson43&page=5. this place had a ton of falcon and comet parts. and I remember reading that you were wanting to get more fiberglass parts...

I have always heard good things about their quality but unfortunately I have not heard anything anything good about there shipping times lately. I might need a hood next year so I was thinking of ordering one. :fingersx: I do like their new and improved website.

edit: I see their "upcoming shows" section is a year old so I guess it is not so new now.

[Bryce]

Here are some updated pics. I got my new tires. Big thanks to Drivers Inc. they got me a great price. The fronts are falken azenis 245/45/17.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/09/tn_full_DSC03248-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/564679)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/09/tn_full_DSC03244-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/564677)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/09/tn_full_DSC03245-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/564676)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/09/tn_full_DSC03246-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/564675)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/09/tn_full_DSC03247-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/564674)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/09/tn_full_DSC03243-1.jpg (http://www.motortopia.com/photos/564673)

[Bryce]

Is he still a dealer because I would like to order one?

I dont think he is a dealer anymore.

Good luck getting your crites hood. I hope there are no issues for you.

[Bryce]

I just decided to buy the rear wheels 17x9.5 with 6.5" BS. Got a package deal from centerline so I took the chance on them fitting.

[fordsbyjay]

I just decided to buy the rear wheels 17x9.5 with 6.5" BS. Got a package deal from centerline so I took the chance on them fitting.

I really like those tires. I looked at them when I bought mine but they didn't have my sizes then.

[Bryce]

I really like those tires. I looked at them when I bought mine but they didn't have my sizes then.

Im only going with a 275 in the back so these tires should work great. Im going to put them on my 95 mustang to get a baseline and see how they work.

[craigs73]

i tell ya im starting to really like these falcons and fairlains:)

[Bryce]

Craig,

Thanks, the falcons are a great starting point. The light weight is a bonus!