Why are there not more 3rd gen camaros representing?

[BADNBLK]

305 on the iforged. Hre 12" 335 toyos. Yeah mini tubbed
Hit me up on Iforged wheels if you are gonna sell those. I'd be interested in a least knowing the specs. My wife hasn't been really mad at me in a while lol


You gotta minitub Brandon...all the cool people are doing it;-)

Oh I will James, I will!!! I had my 9" narrowed so when I got around to mini tubbing I could run some killer deep lip wheels.

[BADNBLK]

Surreyboy - where did this car come from, Do you know who built it? Where are you at man?

[surreyboy]

I am in Vancouver Canada. The car is from Alberta . It was built by the old owner and through vex performance in Calgary. They are an import shop, explains why many of the mods are parts you find on gtr/supras etc.

[LS1-IROC]

Hit me up on Iforged wheels if you are gonna sell those. I'd be interested in a least knowing the specs. My wife hasn't been really mad at me in a while lol



Oh I will James, I will!!! I had my 9" narrowed so when I got around to mini tubbing I could run some killer deep lip wheels.

How much was it narrowed Brandon?

[BADNBLK]

How much was it narrowed Brandon?

Two inches total. Going further was gonna require some additional changes that I wasn't ready to make. An extra inch of wheel lip will look good though :)

[LS1-IROC]

Two inches total. Going further was gonna require some additional changes that I wasn't ready to make. An extra inch of wheel lip will look good though :)

Nice! So are you running a small spacer now with your old wheels? I see some deep concave forgelines in your future!!

[BADNBLK]

Nice! So are you running a small spacer now with your old wheels? I see some deep concave forgelines in your future!!

Yeah small bolt on spacer. I'm wishing. Their 5 spoke both look pretty sick. They are so not in the budget, but we'll see when we get there.

[NWFreerider]

New on here and also on 3rdGen.org. Just got this '91 Z-28 last week. 33k miles on it. 350/700R4 car. I have 18" Boze Pro Touring wheels on order and a slew of suspension parts coming.

[BADNBLK]

New on here and also on 3rdGen.org. Just got this '91 Z-28 last week. 33k miles on it. 350/700R4 car. I have 18" Boze Pro Touring wheels on order and a slew of suspension parts coming.

I got love for a sexy 91 Z28 :) What type of suspension and what brand? Did your wheels show up yet?

[BADNBLK]

Some of you guys have got to have some updates. Its cold and I'm looking for inspiration :)

[DesertFox]

Some of you guys have got to have some updates. Its cold and I'm looking for inspiration :)
Blew up the LS1 at LSfest...
418 CI LS3 going in...

[BADNBLK]

Blew up the LS1 at LSfest...
418 CI LS3 going in...

OUCH!, but that LS3 will cure that wound. Sounds like your gonna have a little bit of a different animal on your hands come spring time.

[DesertFox]

OUCH!, but that LS3 will cure that wound. Sounds like your gonna have a little bit of a different animal on your hands come spring time.
I'd have been more upset if we literally hadn't been discussing upgrading when it went ( maybe it heard us?)
LOL.. the LS3 goes in over the next couple of weekends...
It should be back on track in early Jan. (one benefit of living in the desert).
I'm hoping for a far different animal the LS1 just wasn't enough for me.

[BADNBLK]

I'd have been more upset if we literally hadn't been discussing upgrading when it went ( maybe it heard us?)
LOL.. the LS3 goes in over the next couple of weekends...
It should be back on track in early Jan. (one benefit of living in the desert).
I'm hoping for a far different animal the LS1 just wasn't enough for me.

I'm pretty sure your gonna have a whole new animal on your hands. Are you posting a build thread anywhere on that?

[DesertFox]

I'm pretty sure your gonna have a whole new animal on your hands. Are you posting a build thread anywhere on that?

Looking back, a build thread would have probably generated some interest. When all of this got started we didn't think a 3rd gen TA would be accepted as "pro-touring" of any sort. I'm happy to see its been fairly appreciated... however in lieu of that (and because I'm lazy)...the car has its own FB page... https://www.facebook.com/DragonladyGta it gets updated fairly regularly ;)

[BADNBLK]

Looking back, a build thread would have probably generated some interest. When all of this got started we didn't think a 3rd gen TA would be accepted as "pro-touring" of any sort. I'm happy to see its been fairly appreciated... however in lieu of that (and because I'm lazy)...the car has its own FB page... https://www.facebook.com/DragonladyGta it gets updated fairly regularly ;)

Liked and posted! I'm in the same boat. Posted pics in various threads of what I happened to have done, but never all in one spot. Well I will follow along with this LS3 on FB then. I gotta live through everybody else for about 18 years, unless I hit the lottery haha

[NWFreerider]

I got love for a sexy 91 Z28 :) What type of suspension and what brand? Did your wheels show up yet?

Eibach Pro Kit springs, Koni yellows, UMI panhard bar and control arms with drop brackets, BMR sway bars and strut tower brace. Should have wheels in 2-3 weeks. BFG Rivals are in my garage waiting!

[BADNBLK]

You got a great start to an awesome handling car man. Love my Koni's! I really wanted to use the BFG Rivals, but they hadn't released them in my size yet when I bought all new KDW2's.

[NWFreerider]

My suspension is installed and so far I think it drives better than stock. The factory shocks were definitely toast though. The car has only 33k on it and is very clean. I confirmed the powder coat color yesterday for my Boze wheels. Can't wait to get them. I also did Stillen front rotors and pads all around plus Goodridge stainless lines. Stops better than stock but still not where I would like, especially for the track. (road course not drag)

[J. Chris Davis]

Here's a couple of pics of my 87 IROC. It's got a ways to go.

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[xx_ED_xx]

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My buddy just picked this up. besides the leaking t tops pretty good shape.

[Johnny Blaze]

I parted my orange 88 to concentrate on my 71 build, which feels kinda lame. :)

I mean, my 71 will never stand out against the others, and the 88 certianly would have, mostly do to the fact, you see fewer.

But I've always liked the 71 best. My first car was a 71, of course back then it was a "street car", typical 11 second car for the time. Certianly NOT pro touring, but it did it's job in my small town if you catch my drift.

These days, I want my 71 to be a REAL driver I can take my family anywhere in.

While not going for the overall visual "style" of current builds, I am going for the true function of a pt car.

Anyway, 3rd gens are starting to take off for sure.

[Interceptor5588]

My 92 Formula track mule. I run it in the local Time Attack events. It's about mid-pack for performance, just a tick behind a local 2013 Boss Mustang. Has a TPI 383 with a T56, LS1 brakes, cut WS6 springs, Koni yellows, misc suspension upgrades for stiffness, and AC delete, and is a riot to drive. Everyone watching says it's the best-sounding car out there. It's not real pretty, but I tell people 3 gallons of paint weighs 30 lbs and I can't afford the weight.

[NWFreerider]

I posted in the wheels/tires section but here it is with the Boze wheels finally on it.

[Johnny Blaze]

^ looking good!

[BADNBLK]

I posted in the wheels/tires section but here it is with the Boze wheels finally on it.

That brushed finish with the gold is really classy looking man. Nice choice on those for sure. Might be the lighting, but the front tires look thin? What sizes you running?

[BADNBLK]

My 92 Formula track mule. I run it in the local Time Attack events. It's about mid-pack for performance, just a tick behind a local 2013 Boss Mustang. Has a TPI 383 with a T56, LS1 brakes, cut WS6 springs, Koni yellows, misc suspension upgrades for stiffness, and AC delete, and is a riot to drive. Everyone watching says it's the best-sounding car out there. It's not real pretty, but I tell people 3 gallons of paint weighs 30 lbs and I can't afford the weight.

Amazing what a few minor improvements on "old technology" can do :) Great looking car without the new paint or not. I like the low air dam as well.

[NWFreerider]

That brushed finish with the gold is really classy looking man. Nice choice on those for sure. Might be the lighting, but the front tires look thin? What sizes you running?

265/35-18 front
275/35-18 rear

They do look thin in that pic but not in person.

[BADNBLK]

265/35-18 front
275/35-18 rear

They do look thin in that pic but not in person.

They are a touch short, but still looks great. Drop it and inch, and it will have a killer killer stance. When you wear out that set of tires, put that 275/35 up front, and step up to a 295/35 in the rear :)

[NWFreerider]

That is my plan. I didn't know how clearance would be so I went conservative on the sizing. I already dropped it an inch with the Eibach Pro Kit and eliminated the rear spring isolators. It could go lower but it rides so well I don't want to mess it up!

[indyjps]

Every generation camaro goes thru the trailer park period where they are just clapped out crap. About 20 years later nostalgia come in and the good cars surface and the crappy ones get restored. When the third gen were new, no one wanted 78-81 camaro or transams, they were all in the trailer park stage. I've owned multiple f body's 1, 2 ,3 generation. If you like 3rd gens, get one now, they will go up in price, buy a lot of spare parts cheap they're available.

[Johnny Blaze]

^ very true! Doesn't matter the year, all f bodies will increase in value. Some more than others.

[woodside783]

That is my plan. I didn't know how clearance would be so I went conservative on the sizing. I already dropped it an inch with the Eibach Pro Kit and eliminated the rear spring isolators. It could go lower but it rides so well I don't want to mess it up!

what are the specs on those wheels back space wise?

[NWFreerider]

I think 5" fronts and 5.5 or 6" back. It has been so long since I ordered them I don't remember exactly. I would have to measure to double check.

[BADNBLK]

I'm having a hard time not showing someone... Daddy is upgrading from the current Baer set-up. Can't wait to get these installed :geek:

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[Project92rs]

I'm having a hard time not showing someone... Daddy is upgrading from the current Baer set-up. Can't wait to get these installed :geek:



What size rotor? Thickness and diameter. And what wheel size is required to go over them? 17 or 18 inch?

[BADNBLK]

What size rotor? Thickness and diameter. And what wheel size is required to go over them? 17 or 18 inch?

Tom these are 14" and I wanna say it 1.25"w, and its gonna take the 18" wheels I have to fit them. Baer requires 18" in their statement, but I bet with the right wheel you could go smaller if needed.

[Interceptor5588]

Every generation camaro goes thru the trailer park period where they are just clapped out crap. About 20 years later nostalgia come in and the good cars surface and the crappy ones get restored. When the third gen were new, no one wanted 78-81 camaro or transams, they were all in the trailer park stage. I've owned multiple f body's 1, 2 ,3 generation. If you like 3rd gens, get one now, they will go up in price, buy a lot of spare parts cheap they're available.

You mean I'll wake up one morning and the Bird will be cool again?!? Awesome

[BADNBLK]

DSE shows their 3rd gen parts offering in the 2015 catalog... heads up!

[CampbellshotrodsAZ]

DSE shows their 3rd gen parts offering in the 2015 catalog... heads up!

Their paper catalog? I was just on their website yesterday looking for 3rd gen stuff with no luck. Webpage looks the same today.

But in other news, I worked out a deal to get a nasty 406 to put into my 82. That should make it scoot along nicely.

[dontlifttoshift]

Starting on page 38. http://www.detroitspeed.com/DSE_Catalog-15/Detroit-Speed-Catalog-15.html

[BADNBLK]

Starting on page 38. http://www.detroitspeed.com/DSE_Catalog-15/Detroit-Speed-Catalog-15.html

Beat me to it! Strut mounts look great. I'd like to see some comparison of the weight jack set up compared to a Ground Control kit... why DSE is $500 for the front, and GC set up is $500 for all four....just the name?

[CampbellshotrodsAZ]

Flash doesn't work on my work computer, darn. I'll check it out when I get home.

As far as the Ground Control parts, so the kit below is for 4 wheels? At first I got the impression that it was for 2 wheels, but looking at the adjusters I see 2 styles, so all 4 wheels then?

http://www.ground-control-store.com/products/description.php/II=20/CA=86

[BADNBLK]

Flash doesn't work on my work computer, darn. I'll check it out when I get home.

As far as the Ground Control parts, so the kit below is for 4 wheels? At first I got the impression that it was for 2 wheels, but looking at the adjusters I see 2 styles, so all 4 wheels then?

http://www.ground-control-store.com/products/description.php/II=20/CA=86

Yeah that set up is a complete kit. Front and rear. In the picture the spring set up on the left is the rear, and the one on the right is the front set up.

I haven't contacted them to see if they would sell just a front kit, but from my understanding they will only sell as complete kit... I plan on mini-tubbing and need to run a coil over set up at that time, so no sense buying a rear set up I won't use.

[CampbellshotrodsAZ]

Cool. I need to work on my reading skills, and focusing less on pictures, haha. Guess I'll be ordering a set of those soon.

[BADNBLK]

Cool. I need to work on my reading skills, and focusing less on pictures, haha. Guess I'll be ordering a set of those soon.

I just sent them an email asking if front set of springs could be purchased separately.... I'll let you know what they say

[87camaroZ28]

I'm impressed with DSE's efforts for the 3rd gen platform. I hope they have a test car to show off their efforts, I'll be paying attention and weighing my options.



Greg

[LS1-IROC]

I'm impressed with DSE's efforts for the 3rd gen platform. I hope they have a test car to show off their efforts, I'll be paying attention and weighing my options.



Greg

Yes, they have a test car

[BADNBLK]

I just sent them an email asking if front set of springs could be purchased separately.... I'll let you know what they say

No go... :(

[BADNBLK]

I'm impressed with DSE's efforts for the 3rd gen platform. I hope they have a test car to show off their efforts, I'll be paying attention and weighing my options.



Greg

I've been impressed with how tight lipped they have been in their offering. The test car is still being put together in what I assume with be a showcase mode. I've seen a couple things on Facebook with lil teaser type pics from a DSE employee. Gonna be cool.

Get ready to step your game up boys :)

[87camaroZ28]

We have been asking for it and it really looks like DSE has stepped up with some pretty awesome parts. Now its time to do our part, spend some money and run the cars hard.

This could change the perception of third gen cars and garner a little more acceptance and maybe even respect...



Greg

[BADNBLK]

We have been asking for it and it really looks like DSE has stepped up with some pretty awesome parts. Now its time to do our part, spend some money and run the cars hard.

This could change the perception of third gen cars and garner a little more acceptance and maybe even respect...



Greg

I agree 100%, and I'm trying on my end. My DSE shopping cart will have to be small during my motor swap, but maybe next year :)

[CampbellshotrodsAZ]

It totally slipped my mind until I was digging through my Goodguy's bags from 2 weeks ago, but I have the '15 paper catalog, and I was glad to see several pages devoted to these. Though Ground Control will be getting my business for cost reasons. I'm curious if the quadralink will offer benefits over the torque arm setup? Since the torque arm setup is getting popular to retrofit into the older F-bodies now.

[woodside783]

wow thats some nice pieces they got

[BADNBLK]

My heads and cam package are in the air heading my way.

[BADNBLK]

While I have been waiting for my engine to get finished up at the machine shop, I have been putting in some effort to make my LS swap pretty, mean, murdered, or black and shiny haha!

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[J. Chris Davis]

Nice!

[LS1-IROC]

Love it Brandon. Are those the Proform VC's? I'm thinking about buying them with the coil relocation kit.

[BADNBLK]

Nice!

Thanks!


Love it Brandon. Are those the Proform VC's? I'm thinking about buying them with the coil relocation kit.

Yes they are! Very nice units. I found some random car parts website that had them for sale for $259 with coil bracket. Turned out the coil brackets were not included, but I screen shot the page before they changed it, and I eventually got them to send the brackets LOL. I still prefer the look of hidden coils, but I'm gonna try these and see, how I like it.

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[LS1-IROC]

Cool. Can you turn the coils at an angle for a more swept back look? I've got the black ones with "Chevrolet" in my shopping cart at summit right now:-)

[BADNBLK]

Cool. Can you turn the coils at an angle for a more swept back look? I've got the black ones with "Chevrolet" in my shopping cart at summit right now:-)

Yeah what ever angle you want! or stuff them all to the back, or front?

[BADNBLK]

Well I'm putting the brakes on my LS swap until after CO Nationals and USCA events out here in CO. So I brought the old girl in for some of the maintenance, and upgrades that I was planning during engine swap that could be beneficial for any of the summer events. Installed new centerlink, inner tie rod ends, and Baer bumpsteer kit. Replaced the upper strut mount spherical bearings, and gave them a quick polish while removed. Installed improved rear sway bar mount that is not binding with my 9" rear end, and finally I installed my Ground Control weight Jack spring set up. The rear spring perch is giving me fits and will need to be modded with the Moser housing... Right now its a lift kit back there LOL!

Couple pics
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Almost tucking a 275!
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Monster trucking!!!
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[Project92rs]

Brandon,
At least with the Moser 12 bolt, the rear weight jacks are side specific. Ours went in with no issues except I had to re-order the rear springs in a shorter height and stiffer rate to get what we were looking for. And the adjustment is still rolled as low as it will go. At least the torque arm is self clearancing into the floor pan with just a dent instead of punching an actual hole.

Now to start modifying the next 3rd gen to stop and turn better to see how a seriously boosted car handles the events.

[BADNBLK]

Brandon,
At least with the Moser 12 bolt, the rear weight jacks are side specific. Ours went in with no issues except I had to re-order the rear springs in a shorter height and stiffer rate to get what we were looking for. And the adjustment is still rolled as low as it will go. At least the torque arm is self clearancing into the floor pan with just a dent instead of punching an actual hole.

Now to start modifying the next 3rd gen to stop and turn better to see how a seriously boosted car handles the events.

Tom my Moser housing has PA racing PHB mounts, and the coil spring "cups" on the housing stick up 2.5" versus the factory .5" so it sits a full 2" higher before any adjustment is made, and only going up haha! I think I'm gonna chop the top off the coil cups to correct the height. That should get me pretty close to where I was.

I was surprised how much the torque arm mount massaged the tunnel, but no holes haha!

Are you not gonna let Valerie have all the fun now?

[DesertFox]

Are you not gonna let Valerie have all the fun now?
Nope, he's not really into driving the things, just building them ;)

We've already had the discussion. Besides, trying to get 2 of them to an event that isn't local gets tricky.

[Project92rs]

Tom my Moser housing has PA racing PHB mounts, and the coil spring "cups" on the housing stick up 2.5" versus the factory .5" so it sits a full 2" higher before any adjustment is made, and only going up haha! I think I'm gonna chop the top off the coil cups to correct the height. That should get me pretty close to where I was.

I was surprised how much the torque arm mount massaged the tunnel, but no holes haha!

Are you not gonna let Valerie have all the fun now?

The rear coil spring mounts on the 12 bolt axle are tall enough to go all the way to the adjuster ring on the weight jacks. Maybe next time I have the axle dropped for some reason, I'll measure and see if they actually are deeper than the weight jack piece is tall.

Factory torque arm would probably be fine. The beefy mounting flange on the aftermarket ones like to hit the floorpan once you start to lower the cars though.

And, like Val said, getting two to an event is more work than I really want to do. It's been tried a couple of times. And I do enjoy building them (and keeping them in one piece) more than beating on them. This one might be different if I can teach it to whoa as well as it goes. We'll find out once it gets cool enough to drive it again.

[LS1-IROC]

Looking good Brandon. I'm super jelly that you are still driving yours this summer.

[Yukon Cornelius]

Unfortunately the DSE test car has crashed.

[J. Chris Davis]

Finally started working on mine this passed month. Maybe I can get a picture posted once I get it one color, but it's a long ways off from mods like I'm seeing here. I haven't started a build thread for mine yet here at Pro Touring. Just got one going over at thirdgen.org.

[CampbellshotrodsAZ]

Trying to get mine even running, haha. Between 3 rebuilt power steering pumps that leak or don't pump (#4 is sitting in a box ready to go in, but I've lost motivation), and a gummed up fuel tank that clogs fuel filters every 12 minutes, I've moved onto other projects for the time being!

[BADNBLK]

The rear coil spring mounts on the 12 bolt axle are tall enough to go all the way to the adjuster ring on the weight jacks. Maybe next time I have the axle dropped for some reason, I'll measure and see if they actually are deeper than the weight jack piece is tall.

Factory torque arm would probably be fine. The beefy mounting flange on the aftermarket ones like to hit the floorpan once you start to lower the cars though.

And, like Val said, getting two to an event is more work than I really want to do. It's been tried a couple of times. And I do enjoy building them (and keeping them in one piece) more than beating on them. This one might be different if I can teach it to whoa as well as it goes. We'll find out once it gets cool enough to drive it again.

Understand the two car thing. I did that a few times for car shows with my convertible. Happy to not have to do that anymore. Yeah my factory one cleared fine, but the adjustable one definitely hit the floor haha!


Looking good Brandon. I'm super jelly that you are still driving yours this summer.

I think it was a good call. I recruited a buddy to help me sling mud under the hood, so with more time comes a better outcome :) Your turbo hot side is looking amazing! Can't wait to see that come together!

[woodside783]

just looked at the facebook pics form the dse test 3rd gen. Said the throttle hung and hit the wall, it looks bad. Ryan was un hurt and that none of the products failed

[BADNBLK]

just looked at the facebook pics form the dse test 3rd gen. Said the throttle hung and hit the wall, it looks bad. Ryan was un hurt and that none of the products failed

Yeah it got smacked up really good. Glad the cage and safety equipment worked. I'd like to know if they got any useable information out of it before the wreck. Be interesting to compare lap times with some of the more famous test mules.

[woodside783]

looking for some really good detailed info or build that is all ready on here about what all is needed to do the ls1 t56 in a third gen. Googled it and did not see one.

thanks

[BADNBLK]

looking for some really good detailed info or build that is all ready on here about what all is needed to do the ls1 t56 in a third gen. Googled it and did not see one.

thanks

I'm swapping mine, and have every part I think I'm gonna need, but I don't have a thread. I will be starting the actual swap after Goodguys in Sept. For the most part the typical electrical wiring issues are the biggest headache most seem to encounter. There is people making plug and play harnesses to help with that. Hawks third gen sells their stainless longtube swap headers, and seem to be the most popular option with swappers. There is an ebay version of these for just over $300 that is nearly identical.

I know you googled, but get on Thirdgen.org (TGO) and cruise some of the build threads there. You will see that some make it appear very easy, as other have headaches with all sorts of things. I think a lot of the time the headaches come from not doing something right the first time, or personal fabrication issues.
Here is a link to the LS/LTX swap threads http://www.thirdgen.org/forums/ltx-lsx/

[Project92rs]

I'll second what Brandon said about researching this on www.thirdgen.org. There is a great deal of information and build threads there. Or feel free to ask questions in this thread and those of us that have done the swap will freely answer your questions. If the car was originally an automatic, you obviously have more work than if the car is a factory 5 speed car but this is a swap that has been done many times and is well documented on thirdgen.org

We documented most of our build on Facebook when we set up a page for the GTA. There are definitely ways that are more budget friendly than others and depending on emissions and inspection requirements there may be things you have to do that I didn't. Main advice I can give is take your time, do lots of research on www.thirdgen.org, ask lots of questions on here and on thirdgen.org, gather your parts, and then do the swap. Wiring will be the piece you have the most fun with.

[woodside783]

thanks have looked on that sight also
hope they do make a plug and play that would save a lot of time

[BADNBLK]

thanks have looked on that sight also
hope they do make a plug and play that would save a lot of time

There is a member named, Pocket, that has built many of them. I think that there was a time he quit and was un-reliable with them, but I have seen he is back and selling again. From the guys that I know that used his harness they have all been pleased.

[LS1-IROC]

I bought a stand alone harness from Speartech. Very simple. Plug and play is over rated IMHO, there are like 5 wires to connect on a stand alone harness.

[Project92rs]

I bought a stand alone harness from Speartech. Very simple. Plug and play is over rated IMHO, there are like 5 wires to connect on a stand alone harness.

Also used a Speartech harness. Very few wires to actually splice into the old harness or even wires from the old harness. And very well made. Depending on your donor car, that harness may be almost 15 or more years old. Speartech (and a couple other vendors) can get you an all new one for under $800.

The most fun was stripping out all the unneeded wires from the original harness since the body and engine harnesses connect at the grounds on the back of the block.

[BADNBLK]

Still representing...

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[LSX Man]

Starting to represent!

Here's my Built LS6/T56 91 Z28.

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I drove about 800 miles on the Hot Rod Power Tour 2015!
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And some crappy pictures from Road Atlanta!
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[J. Chris Davis]

Very nice. I really like that color.

[FMK]

The Raymond's Performance 3rd Gen represented pretty well at the Holley LS Fest last weekend, 9th place overall in the Grand Champion points, 4th overall in Track X and 7th overall in AX just .039 seconds out of 4th position. Seeing as if it was first fired up thursday before the evnt and no shakedown it should be fun to watch this thing after the bugs are worked out...117344117345117346117347

[MoJoe]

The Raymond's Performance 3rd Gen represented pretty well at the Holley LS Fest last weekend, 9th place overall in the Grand Champion points, 4th overall in Track X and 7th overall in AX just .039 seconds out of 4th position. Seeing as if it was first fired up thursday before the evnt and no shakedown it should be fun to watch this thing after the bugs are worked out...

Build information on the car should be interesting... fuel cell, interesting exhaust routing, why the 82-84 hood with 85-90 GFX, tow hook on the front and rear through the covers.

[woodside783]

Had first seen the Raymond's 3rd gen and that has had me wanting one ever since

[James OLC]

Might as well jump back in to this one...

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/imagejpg2_zps6cajifnf-1.jpg (http://s1093.photobucket.com/user/onelapcamaro/media/1989%20Camaro%20Z28/image.jpg2_zps6cajifnf.jpg.html)

Former CMC car... Real 1LE... Been rode hard and put away wet more than once but we'll get things tuned up this spring.

Usual plans... Should be fun!

[BADNBLK]

Might as well jump back in to this one...

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/imagejpg2_zps6cajifnf-1.jpg (http://s1093.photobucket.com/user/onelapcamaro/media/1989%20Camaro%20Z28/image.jpg2_zps6cajifnf.jpg.html)

Former CMC car... Real 1LE... Been rode hard and put away wet more than once but we'll get things tuned up this spring.

Usual plans... Should be fun!

Already loving it James! You got a name for the beast yet? Orange Crush good to me :)

[CampbellshotrodsAZ]

Funny, just did something for my 3rd gen today... ordered tires. Tried these Boss 338's off my S10 on the 82 one day, and they worked well. So I bought another set of 338's a few months ago, and just ordered some BFG Comp II's this morning. The 245's were in stock, but the 275's had to be shipped in from Texas as they're apparently on backorder, so I'll have then on, NEXT weekend.

My last few months have been going through the entire fuel system. I've NEVER seen a fuel system this nasty, worse than my 58 Edsel even. Rebuilt the carb, new tank, modified sender (no carb sender available). Runs well now, so the dry rotted tires were my limitation. I might actually start putting miles on this thing now!

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[Project92rs]

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Good to see this one getting some love after sitting for most of the years I had it. If you go through with your plans it will be fun to watch it run.

[ed1le]

The Raymond's Performance 3rd Gen represented pretty well at the Holley LS Fest last weekend, 9th place overall in the Grand Champion points, 4th overall in Track X and 7th overall in AX just .039 seconds out of 4th position. Seeing as if it was first fired up thursday before the evnt and no shakedown it should be fun to watch this thing after the bugs are worked out...
117345


Might as well jump back in to this one...

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/imagejpg2_zps6cajifnf-1.jpg (http://s1093.photobucket.com/user/onelapcamaro/media/1989%20Camaro%20Z28/image.jpg2_zps6cajifnf.jpg.html)

Former CMC car... Real 1LE... Been rode hard and put away wet more than once but we'll get things tuned up this spring.

Usual plans... Should be fun!

I love these both! More details please!

[shortrack]

Looking at getting my blue 89 back up and running. I have the TPI blues. In my neck of the woods I found if I install an engine that wasnt originally offered in the car it can be registered as a "hotrod" and therefore subject to much lower emission standards. So after much deliberation I have a vortec 400sbc longblock sitting around in my shop that I will tune to 425hp/500tq with a FITech throttle body FI set up, keep the WC T5. That way all my A/C, trans and all accessories will bolt right in. LS swaps are nice but a lot of trouble($$) Want to make a nice street car out of it......BTW anyone know the wheel/tire/susp combo on this white bad boy?

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[MoJoe]

BTW anyone know the wheel/tire/susp combo on this white bad boy?

Bonspeed Intense 5 wheels. Here is some reading for you...
COTM thread - January 2012l (http://www.thirdgen.org/forums/auto-detailing-appearance/637680-january-car-month-winner.html)
Build thread on TGO ... 2009 - late 2012 (http://www.thirdgen.org/forums/members-camaros/543506-update-my-build.html)
Last update: The car has been a project for the past 7 or 8 years. I had a blast driving it this summer finally. Hell, I even went to the track with it, I ran a 11.88 @ 114mph with poor traction
Build thread on LS1ttech (http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversions-hybrids/1074409-my-3rd-gen-iroc-swap.html)
His Cardomain page (http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2432471/1986-chevrolet-camaro/)

[shortrack]

Thanks!

bags eh....I wondered if it had them

[morrow]

128775128776128777128778128779128780128781 representing !!! Kinda new to this site!! Posting up my 92 wide fender track car. Completely custom built suspension with a track width 6 inches wider than stock front and rear on a one off set of coil overs, one off carbon fiber splitter and wicket bill spoiler, my Rs.R hood Louver set and my alumnium Rs.R rear blown diffuser. 295 30 r888 front and rear.

[James OLC]

gradually getting the CMC car dialled in... will take longer than I had hoped to transition USCA legality but flogging it as often as I can in the mean time...

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/07/DSC00768_zpsrxljf14o-1.jpg

while supporting all our friends

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/07/DSC00773_zpsxxoeisti-1.jpg

including those no longer with us

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[Mr.VENGEANCE]

Morrow and James' 3rdys are a Doozy!

[morrow]

Thanks Mr.vengeance

[BADNBLK]

Morrow and James! Looking good fellas!! Nice to see this one come find its was to the top again.


Here's what I have been up too...

I yanked my 305 TPI and built up a H/C/I LS1 T56 combo. I shaved the engine bay smooth and tucked all the wiring. Oh and I threw some new Forgeline wheels at it! I've got it running, but have some re-assembling to do still yet.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/07/20160704_002056_zpsegniyovc-1.jpg (http://s808.photobucket.com/user/BADNBLK91/media/camaro/LS1%20swap/20160704_002056_zpsegniyovc.jpg.html)
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[FirstGenZq8]

...threw some new Forgeline wheels at it...https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/07/20160704_001956_zpse552tqjh-1.jpg (http://s808.photobucket.com/user/BADNBLK91/media/camaro/LS1%20swap/20160704_001956_zpse552tqjh.jpg.html)

and only one pic? blasphemous.

[BADNBLK]

and only one pic? blasphemous.

Sooon.... Sooooon!

[BADNBLK]

It was an insane trash to get this back together, broke in, tuned, and track ready in 3 days, but I made it....

OUSCI PPIR 2016
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[BADNBLK]

My on track pictures courtesy of Ryan Harris @ Dusold Designs

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[BADNBLK]

Couple new pics...

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[ed1le]

Wow, looking good!!!

[quickchicken]

This is my 89 FORMULA thats under re-construction.

[BADNBLK]

This is my 89 FORMULA thats under re-construction.

Dude what is the plan with that? That looks like it could be all sorts of fun. I'm pretty sure Centerline or someone is remaking those wheels in billet modern sizes... Could be really cool to "throw back" with those...

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Wow, looking good!!!

Thanks brother! How is your car coming along?

[quickchicken]

Right now I'm about to start assembling my motor. 383: Lunati sledgehammer series Crank, 6.0 rods, RHS 200 runner 64cc heads, RHS port intake,FAST ez EFI, LT1T-56.

I got those champs from a friend and they are 16x8. I have seen the newer design and love them. Other things are planned but I want to get it running after 3 yrs on stands.

[James OLC]

Took the Players car out to Castrol Raceway last weekend... would love to say it was a blast but teething pains resulted in a day similar to the SCCA Nationals - countless hours towing for four laps. sigh. Back to the CMC car Monday...

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/08/r7u201_zpsumevbszq-1.jpg

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[domhoff13]

Just joined this site, I have an '82 Sport Coupe C6 brakes T56 with a built LTx.
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[ed1le]

Just joined this site, I have an '82 Sport Coupe C6 brakes T56 with a built LTx.
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Welcome. Your # and class seen familiar....

[domhoff13]

Welcome. Your # and class seen familiar....

Thanks, it does seem that way. I used to race UMP modifieds and decided it cost way to much and moved to street cars and I am having a blast doing it. That was the second time out with the car shaking it down still but it is going to be pretty competitive.

[shortrack]

Independent rear suspension kit now available for third gens.... :)


http://www.heidts.com/part/irc-301-1982-1992-camaro-f-body-irs/

[shortrack]

Feature on Heidt's third gen....nice


http://www.engineswapdepot.com/?p=8801



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[Project92rs]

Independent rear suspension kit now available for third gens.... :)


http://www.heidts.com/part/irc-301-1982-1992-camaro-f-body-irs/

Their parts are interesting except for:

1) Price. At $8000 for the IRS the market is extremely limited. Especially when the setup forces the exhaust to be dumped in front of the axle.
2) Fitment. In addition to the IRS having fitment issues with the exhaust, Heidts didn't check their front suspension components for fitment with factory accessory drives so it was unknown when the items hit the catalog if you would be required to use an aftermarket accessory drive to use the front suspension pieces.

I know both of these because I spent over a hour with the engineers and owner of Heidts at SEMA last year critiquing the pictured car at their request. The biggest issue is probably price as most thirdgen owners won't spend that much on a rear axle assembly.

[shortrack]

Their parts are interesting except for:

1) Price. At $8000 for the IRS the market is extremely limited. Especially when the setup forces the exhaust to be dumped in front of the axle.
2) Fitment. In addition to the IRS having fitment issues with the exhaust, Heidts didn't check their front suspension components for fitment with factory accessory drives so it was unknown when the items hit the catalog if you would be required to use an aftermarket accessory drive to use the front suspension pieces.

I know both of these because I spent over a hour with the engineers and owner of Heidts at SEMA last year critiquing the pictured car at their request. The biggest issue is probably price as most thirdgen owners won't spend that much on a rear axle assembly.

I was just throwing it out there as something new for third gens....critique is welcome :)

[prossi]

In response to your critique here are some updates to what you saw at SEMA last year

Price is $6995 a little bit less than $8k but take the cost of a fully built complete 9" rear end from lets say Currie or Moser plus the sum of all the upgrade parts someone would purchase that this replaces, like coil overs, brake upgrade, t-arm, lca's, PHB. relocation brackets & so on then the price gets more comparable. The downside is that its an investment all at once where as if your building the solid axle you can purchase the parts separately.
The fitment issues you reference with the exhaust are null I don't know why you were told it couldn't be done.
You do not have to dump the exhaust in front of the axle It has been installed passing below the diff and when I find the pictures ill post them.
I can also say that the front suspension does clear all factory drives, and chevy engines including LS. Testing has been done to verify.
Hopefully this info helps

[prossi]

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Here is the pic of an IROC built by Black Dog Speedshop

[Project92rs]

In response to your critique here are some updates to what you saw at SEMA last year

Price is $6995 a little bit less than $8k but take the cost of a fully built complete 9" rear end from lets say Currie or Moser plus the sum of all the upgrade parts someone would purchase that this replaces, like coil overs, brake upgrade, t-arm, lca's, PHB. relocation brackets & so on then the price gets more comparable. The downside is that its an investment all at once where as if your building the solid axle you can purchase the parts separately.
The fitment issues you reference with the exhaust are null I don't know why you were told it couldn't be done.
You do not have to dump the exhaust in front of the axle It has been installed passing below the diff and when I find the pictures ill post them.
I can also say that the front suspension does clear all factory drives, and chevy engines including LS. Testing has been done to verify.
Hopefully this info helps

My comments were based on discussions held in the Heidt's booth at SEMA last year. If they have done more work on it and verified those items aren't issues, it has happened since then as a result of those discussions.

[ed1le]

Thanks brother! How is your car coming along?

It's coming along, slowly but surely. Was able to do a handful of solo events this summer and have alignment pretty well dialed in. Stepping down from 4.10's to 3.73's this winter as the 4.10's are just a little too much. Have my original rear on a stand freshly blasted and painted with fresh LS1 rear discs. Also, want to upgrade my seats but then I'll need harnesses which means I need a roll bar (SCCA doesn't allow a harness bar in 'verts without a roll bar or factory rollover device) so we'll be installing that soon as well.
Hoping I can get through next season on the Nitto's and will hopefully be able to step up to 18's and a set of Rival's for 2018. Or, BFG could throw me a bone by coming out with Rival's in a 275/40/17!
Regardless, been having a blast with it!

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[ed1le]

128775 representing !!! Kinda new to this site!! Posting up my 92 wide fender track car. Completely custom built suspension with a track width 6 inches wider than stock front and rear on a one off set of coil overs, one off carbon fiber splitter and wicket bill spoiler, my Rs.R hood Louver set and my alumnium Rs.R rear blown diffuser. 295 30 r888 front and rear.

Morrow, I think we've chatted on thirdgen. Your build looks sick, love it!


This is my 89 FORMULA thats under re-construction.

Richard, the Formula looks great. Saw you sold the miniram a while back, what's your set up now?

Ideally, I'd like to take a Formula and modify like Morrow's camaro. Both look great guys!

[BADNBLK]

Still repping...

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[LS1-IROC]

:drool::worship::naughty:

[qnitro]

So I have my 91 Z28, I have the LS3 forged, with a LSA blower, I have T56... I ordered a QT 9 inch.. question is..can you mini tub a 3rd gen?? I want 345 in the rear.. Im ordering fiske wheels..Im just curious if anyone has done it..and Im not talking about a tub job for drag racing.. :)

[Finnan]

So I have my 91 Z28, I have the LS3 forged, with a LSA blower, I have T56... I ordered a QT 9 inch.. question is..can you mini tub a 3rd gen?? I want 345 in the rear.. Im ordering fiske wheels..Im just curious if anyone has done it..and Im not talking about a tub job for drag racing.. :)

Must you start building more cool
Stuff?

[BADNBLK]

So I have my 91 Z28, I have the LS3 forged, with a LSA blower, I have T56... I ordered a QT 9 inch.. question is..can you mini tub a 3rd gen?? I want 345 in the rear.. Im ordering fiske wheels..Im just curious if anyone has done it..and Im not talking about a tub job for drag racing.. :)

Lots of people have done a mini-tub on these. Most have been for the drag racing side of things, but its the same thing. Making space for bigger tires. LS1-IROC mini-tubbed his white IROC and is running a 335.

LSA blower car... Damn errbody running LSA blown 3rd gens. I'm excited to see what you come up with. Holler if you run across something you think I could help with

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Don't start that. I worshipped and drooled over yours first haha

[dhutton]

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So I have my 91 Z28, I have the LS3 forged, with a LSA blower, I have T56... I ordered a QT 9 inch.. question is..can you mini tub a 3rd gen?? I want 345 in the rear.. Im ordering fiske wheels..Im just curious if anyone has done it..and Im not talking about a tub job for drag racing.. :)

Oh mama.... :camaro:

Don

[LS1-IROC]

So I have my 91 Z28, I have the LS3 forged, with a LSA blower, I have T56... I ordered a QT 9 inch.. question is..can you mini tub a 3rd gen?? I want 345 in the rear.. Im ordering fiske wheels..Im just curious if anyone has done it..and Im not talking about a tub job for drag racing.. :)

I tubbed mine a few years ago. No one makes a kit for 3rd gen yet. I didn't want to use the standard 4th gen tubs because they have a square shoulder on them for big ass drag tires. I wanted a rounded shoulder to better match the tire profile of the R888's. I fabricated mine using a hammer form I made out of wood. This also allowed me to keep all the interior plastics and still fit the 335's. I do believe I can fit the 345 drag radial as well.

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[BADNBLK]

I tubbed mine a few years ago. No one makes a kit for 3rd gen yet. I didn't want to use the standard 4th gen tubs because they have a square shoulder on them for big ass drag tires. I wanted a rounded shoulder to better match the tire profile of the R888's. I fabricated mine using a hammer form I made out of wood. This also allowed me to keep all the interior plastics and still fit the 335's. I do believe I can fit the 345 drag radial as well.

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Schwartz was supposed to be making a tub kit for these, but SInce Justina's car got finished up I haven't heard a word about more 3rd gen parts coming from them. Paging Dale!!! Anyway it would be really nice to have an option outside hand forming out own tubs, using trailer fenders, or not tubbing at all... Someone needs to step up.

[Yukon Cornelius]

I've waited for something to come out from Schwartz, but it never materialized.

[qnitro]

Hey badnBlk or LS1-Rock, what backspacing are you running I have some new CCW's 18x11 with 4.75BS, want to do a shortened rearend to run them with a 315

[LS1-IROC]

Hey badnBlk or LS1-Rock, what backspacing are you running I have some new CCW's 18x11 with 4.75BS, want to do a shortened rearend to run them with a 315

My rears are 18x12 with a 8.5" BS on stock width rear. Brandon had his rear axle shortened 1" per side if I recall correctly. Not sure what he's running for BS.
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[qnitro]

Thanks brother...I’m getting ready to start my 91 Z28, ordered the 427 LS3 today..


My rears are 18x12 with a 8.5" BS on stock width rear. Brandon had his rear axle shortened 1" per side if I recall correctly. Not sure what he's running for BS.
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[qnitro]

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[awr68]

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Very nice! Thanks for the update! Great inspiration for my white ‘85 Z28 build!

[BK2LIFE]

no new posts in 5 years?
did 3rd gens die in here?

here is mine..