Help with ATS Spindle

[1badchevelle]

I have a set of a body short style ats spindle I bought from a member here. I am a little short on $$. I will not be able to get the Global west arms for a while and would like to add new bushings and ball joints to my stock arms to get me bye. I know Tyler is a bit tied up and would like some help from you guys.

I dont recal if the spindles were for a stock or b body ball joint and how can I find out what I have. Also What ball joint MFG would you recomend or part number if possible. I have the energy bushings just need the ball joints at this time.





This is for a 71 chevelle

Thank you.

[andrewb70]

I have a set of a body short style ats spindle I bought from a member here. I am a little short on $$. I will not be able to get the Global west arms for a while and would like to add new bushings and ball joints to my stock arms to get me bye. I know Tyler is a bit tied up and would like some help from you guys.

I dont recal if the spindles were for a stock or b body ball joint and how can I find out what I have. Also What ball joint MFG would you recomend or part number if possible. I have the energy bushings just need the ball joints at this time.



This is for a 71 chevelle

Thank you.

If you have the short style spindles, then I see no reason why they would ever come with b-body ball joints.

So if you are on a budget get some poly bushings for the stock upper and lower control arms and you should be good to go. Moog seems to have a good reputation. What I generally do is go to the parts store ask for what they have in stock and see where its made. Even Moog has made in china parts, not that its necessarily a bad thing. Who knows anymore :/

Andrew

[64Chevelle]

If you have the short style spindles, then I see no reason why they would ever come with b-body ball joints.

So if you are on a budget get some poly bushings for the stock upper and lower control arms and you should be good to go. Moog seems to have a good reputation. What I generally do is go to the parts store ask for what they have in stock and see where its made. Even Moog has made in china parts, not that its necessarily a bad thing. Who knows anymore :/

Andrew

I would strongly advice against poly bushings. Nylon or steel-on-steel greasble bushings are way better than the binding-prone polys. You can get them from http://www.southwestspeed.com

[1badchevelle]

Funny I just bought the energy suspension bushing as several people recomended those. I was thinking of going with del-um but cost is a factor.

[64Chevelle]

Just google "problems with poly/urethane bushings". I have links to explain it in other threads, but I don't have time to find those right now.

[Denvervet]

search around...del-alums are more but not that much more. ( give or take $100)

[1badchevelle]

thanks 64 chevelle. I may just bite the bullet and go to southwest speed.

Their is nothing like buying parts twice.

[64Chevelle]

Glad to help even though I was a bit too late. Shouldn't be too difficult to sell the poly parts though, they are hyped...

I believe your best bet is delrin/del-a-lum or nylon bushings. The nylon bushings have a great reputation and will last "for ever". They are also not really that expensive.

I have to admit though that I don't have any experience with the nylon bushings myself yet. I've switched from poly to delrin up front but haven't gotten the car on the road yet. I've bougt a pair of nylon for the back, will post back with experiences.

[1badchevelle]

damm I forgot about the rear bushings.

[86Cutlass383SR]

I had the poly-graphite bushings in a 69 Camaro I once had with stock replacement springs and shocks. Because of the bushings binding there was hardly any suspension movement and what little it did move squeaked like a worn-out bushing does. They were not greasable which would have helped some I'm sure.

When I rebuilt the front suspension on my 86 Cutlass, I went with the Global West Del-A-Lum bushings with a 706# front (IROC) spring. That spring was twice as stout as a stock Supreme V6 spring it replaced. Again, because of the DAL bushings, it had more suspension movement and just as smooth as silk.

Hands down, go with some type of solid bushing. They let the suspension do what it's intended to do!

My personal experience, yours may differ.

[1badchevelle]

Wish I would have asked these ? before I bought my parts. Oh well time to help out our economy.

Thanks Guys you all have been a great help.
Check out my sloooooow build.

[6'9"Witha69]

I had the poly-graphite bushings in a 69 Camaro I once had with stock replacement springs and shocks. Because of the bushings binding there was hardly any suspension movement and what little it did move squeaked like a worn-out bushing does. They were not greasable which would have helped some I'm sure.

When I rebuilt the front suspension on my 86 Cutlass, I went with the Global West Del-A-Lum bushings with a 706# front (IROC) spring. That spring was twice as stout as a stock Supreme V6 spring it replaced. Again, because of the DAL bushings, it had more suspension movement and just as smooth as silk.

Hands down, go with some type of solid bushing. They let the suspension do what it's intended to do!

My personal experience, yours may differ.

This is my similar experience. Poly bound too much so even with a stiffer srping and D-A-L the ride was smoother.

Another place to ensure you have smooth interaction is the pillow blocks for the sway bar and ensuring proper height end links.

[1badchevelle]

I have all the poly bushings, I was going to just buy all new bushings but is it really worth it? It will be just a weekend car, and will not see much autox, money is getting tight and so far I have subscribed to the measure once buy twice. The learn as you go along was not a big deal a year ago. The BOSS has put my car fund on hold and put me on time out as she want to do some work on the house, and maybe buying a new truck. At this point I hate to buy the same parts over again but it will drive me nuts if I here squeaks from the car. I know I should just say f it buy the new parts.

Your advise is priceless and I THANK YOU ALL

[andrewb70]

I have all the poly bushings, I was going to just buy all new bushings but is it really worth it? It will be just a weekend car, and will not see much autox, money is getting tight and so far I have subscribed to the measure once buy twice. The learn as you go along was not a big deal a year ago. The BOSS has put my car fund on hold and put me on time out as she want to do some work on the house, and maybe buying a new truck. At this point I hate to buy the same parts over again but it will drive me nuts if I here squeaks from the car. I know I should just say f it buy the new parts.

Your advise is priceless and I THANK YOU ALL

If you already have the poly bushings and are on a tight budget, there is no reason not to use them. Use plenty of the sticky grease that comes with the bushings to avoid squicking. Also make sure that the car is at ride height when you tighten the control arm bolts. This is so the bushings are not preloaded.

Andrew