New Frame Available

[Wayne Due]

Just finished up a new frame for first gen. Camaro (second gen. and Chevy II coming soon). The new frame is using Art Morrison suspension, AGR rack, QA-1 coilovers, and Willwood 4 piston brakes.

If you have any questions give me a call or I'll try to log back in in a day or so and answer some questions.

Almost forgot, complete frame as pictured will run $4000 plus shipping.

Thanks,
Wayne
email me
Phone: 360.657.4810

[Wayne Due]

[MStennes]

What is this front C4 or C5 or better? What else would I need to get this all ready to go? I have all ready gone to Baer disks at all 4 corners does that create a problem? As it is now I have Global West upper & lower control arms and QA-1 coilovers. I'm also using Global West sub frame connectors will these still work? The car is equipped with a Hydroboost if this makes any difference. I guess my question is should I sell this sub as is or should I keep it for parts as I have been looking at getting one of your subs for a long time and now is the time. Last this is a 1969 Camaro convertable I'm refering about. Thanks for your time.
Mike Stennes

[Cdog]

What is this front C4 or C5 or better? What else would I need to get this all ready to go? I have all ready gone to Baer disks at all 4 corners does that create a problem? As it is now I have Global West upper & lower control arms and QA-1 coilovers. I'm also using Global West sub frame connectors will these still work? The car is equipped with a Hydroboost if this makes any difference. I guess my question is should I sell this sub as is or should I keep it for parts as I have been looking at getting one of your subs for a long time and now is the time. Last this is a 1969 Camaro convertable I'm refering about. Thanks for your time.
Mike Stennes

Your a-arms probably won't work on that frame. The frame in the pic has differant componets for mustang/ art morrison. What are your GW a-arms designed for? What kind of car?

[rob07002]

What suspension/brake options do I have with this new frame??? I might want to buy bare and go with GW, or other A-arms, is this possible, also I would rather go with Baer, again is this going to be an issue???

Thanks Wayne
BTW another masterpiece.....Looks Awsome

[boodlefoof]

Me likey!

Just curious how this setup will differ with regard to handling... is this a step up from the previous product or just a different option?

Thanks for taking the time to post! We all really appreciate you taking the time to do so.

[MStennes]

Let me clear this up a bit, I dont want to reuse my control arms I would like to reuse my Baer brakes and QA1's if possible. What brakets would I need for the brakes? Are the QA1's the same? What I would like to know is how does this subframe compare to the C4/5 front sub from Wayne? Will a Wayne Due subframe work with my GW subframe connectors? The upper and lowers are for my 69 subframe. If there are to many differences for the QA1's to work I would pull the Baers off and sell the subframe as is. The reason I want the Baers to stay so they match the rear setup. As my wife and daughter tell my I have to cordinate.
Thanks,
Mike

[cpederslie]

Very nice looking setup.

[Flyboy]

Me likey!

Just curious how this setup will differ with regard to handling... is this a step up from the previous product or just a different option?

Thanks for taking the time to post! We all really appreciate you taking the time to do so.

I'm with John... thanks for posting up! I'd like to hear how this compares to your other frames as well.

[David Sloan]

Hi Wayne !
Thanks for the up date on the new frame! One of my customers is very interested in this set up,an has called to talk to you about it.already
we have some ?s
1st how wide of a front tire & wheel can we get on this frame? (moding the inner fenders is not a problem)
2nd what kind of camber & caster settings can we expect?
3rd how is the bump stear?
4th what is the spring rates that will be offered w/ this frame (what would you recommend) Small block,w/ac, alum. heads,rad.
Thanks.

[Piet]

complete frame as pictured will run $4000 plus shipping.

With brakes, rotors, steering, bushings, a-frames, signature of Wayne on frame?
second gen frame.... :icon996:

[Wayne Due]

David, your custimer ordered a frame, Thanks for sending him my way! and good luck with your shop!! The frame uses all A/M IFS. For that price it has the AGR rack, QA-1 Proma stars, Willwood 4 piston brakes. The A/M front uses M II spindles so anybody that makes a brake kit for those spindles will work. In the picture the car has stock spindels so 2'' drop would make for a vary nice low car. This frame is only an option, it does not replac the Vette frame.
And yes I'm working on the C-5 frame and think you all will like the looks of it. I also want to throw this out there. Do you think peeps would like a frame that uses all stock first gen points? but would have a front steer rack, narrow rails, and coil-overs. that way you can put the DSE arms on or? I think I could build this frame pretty easy. What do you all think.

Thanks and Happy New year!!

W

[MuscleRodz]

Wayne

I sent you an e mail and left a message regarding a frame.

Mike

[weranc55]

Wayne,

I like the price of the frame with the art morrison suspension. I may try one but the upper and lower arm do not look very heavy duty to me. I want to put a LS1 in my car and it should have about 450 horse so I want to make sure that subframe is up to the task of a high ten second car.

Thanks

[Kenova]

......... I also want to throw this out there. Do you think peeps would like a frame that uses all stock first gen points? but would have a front steer rack, narrow rails, and coil-overs. that way you can put the DSE arms on or? I think I could build this frame pretty easy. What do you all think.

Thanks and Happy New year!!

W

Wayne,
I think a sub-frame like this could prove to be popular. There are a lot of options out there when it comes to suspension components. A SF that is lighter, stronger, with room for more wheel/tire, and R&P steering would certainly be a step up from the original SF.
I have two suggestions to make, although I don't know how practical they would be when it comes to production. My first suggestion is to move the stock mounting points slightly to improve geometry (the Guldstrand mod comes to mind). The second (as an option) is to move the suspension points to take full advantage of the taller F/B body spindles while still using control arms from the early F/X bodies.
Ken

[MrQuick]

Hi wayne, I like it, most of the people im dealing with are waiting patiently for your updated C5 frame. How about this... a frame that uses stock f body configured a arms (which would include tubular DSE,GW,Hotchkis and speedtech) with all necassary improvments in geometry, provisions for coil overs and a ford AGR rack. Now that would be big here. The advantage over stock? 100lbs less weight and room for wheels up to 315's, I see alot.

[spanky the wondermuffin]

if you check out a stock car products catalog you'll see,all 2nd gen,modified stock or fabricated subs,coil over or conventional,with rack mounts or stock.and also modified stock lca in coil or coil over,spindles hub,ect.i think the same could be done with a first gen.a stronger lighter replacement,with a few mods like weight jackers or coilover option,upper a arm mounts with a few mounting location,i.e. guldstrand,stock.and something that will work best with the tall spindle.but able to run all or most stock components.that could be a real winner.if you already have a lot of mods you wouldn't have to chuck it all.the stock car products clip is $625.priced like that i'd get one myself.

[David Sloan]

Thanks for the info ! Wayne !!
We look forward to installing the frame in his car, And hope to do many more of your frames for others as well!
Thanks!

[Flyboy]

Wayne, you've got mail.

[Flyboy]

Does Wayne check his e-mail? Just wondering. Still haven't gotten a reply back yet.