Cuda at SEMA

[Brandon Miller]

Anyone got any better pics of this car?

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[F70t/a]

Holy poop that does look sweet!!!! :headbang: I also want to see more pics

[protour_chevelle]

Blingin, Looks like a oversized toy!

-Matt

[TonyL]

Now thats HAWT. Carbon fiber rocks. I look forward to seeing more of this car..

(Attn: Hunkins, Rupp.. Hint hint... oh, and make this a pull out centerfold... Please?...)

/misses those.

[Damn True]

That thing makes me tingle in my special place.

[vanzuuk1]

awesome car.

[Travis B]

Alan Johnson Built that car for the Z2Z competition....that car is very impressive! The carbon fiber inlayed in the tops of the doors and quarters is killer along with of course the carbon fiber front end....

[rob07002]

They really should make windshield wipers for computer monitors.....

Dam!

[ProdigyCustoms]

Yup, that thing is showing us amatuers how it is done. VERY well built. Maybe one day we will get a shot to build a 6000 hour project! In the meantime, we will bow and respect our leaders.

[protouring70]

Look on the 2nd page of SEMA PICTURES thread for pics.

[kmcanally]

schwiiiiiing!

[Bigblue73]

Try This - Day 3 of this photo shoot has some nice shots. Awesome.

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[wantahertzdonut]

Can't see the picture you posted. Anyone know why?

Which one is it, the blue/silver or the orange one?

[Travis B]

Can't see the picture you posted. Anyone know why?

Which one is it, the blue/silver or the orange one?


The orange one.....

I dig the blue and silver one as well though...

[F70t/a]

Who built the car? :usa:

[Travis B]

Alan Johnson Built that car for the Z2Z competition....that car is very impressive! The carbon fiber inlayed in the tops of the doors and quarters is killer along with of course the carbon fiber front end....


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[Restomod]

Who makes the wheels?? One offs or not,they look a lot like the American Salt Flats.

[CraigMorrison]

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Inside the Cuda

[CraigMorrison]

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Showing off some of the 100k worth of custom CF.

[CraigMorrison]

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Birds eye view of the debut.

[ViperBlue68]

i LOVE this car! even if its not pro-touring in alot of peoples eyes...wonder what this will sell for? :scared:

[michmadman]

Rumored to have cost a mere $1million...dollars.Very cool car.

[vanzuuk1]

It almost looks like a detroit concept car the way they detailed it, I mean that as a compliment. I get sick of cars with chrome/candy/polish everywhere , this looks like a real designer thought it out.

I will take one in plum crazy or a pearl lime green, thank you.

[kmcanally]

Absolutely and completely amazing! I am stunned. Are they really going to drive in the Z2Z? I hope so but I would be even more stunned to see someone drive a one off 1 mil car that hard. :worship:

I can't wait to get more info on this thing...In a recent mag there was a story about the resurgence of Mopars along with construction pics of some...including one from Alan Johnsons shop. I wonder if this is that car?

[primate]

wow. love the carbon fiber work...

man, that is awwwwwweome.

[67Sally]

Try This - Day 3 of this photo shoot has some nice shots. Awesome.

http://www.speedsportlife.com/sema-2005-coverage-day-3-photo-gallery-uploaded/

It is an very cool car. I had to check it out twice...........and there I am in my Pro-Touring/G-Machine shirt supporting the site and wishing the car was mine.
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[Larry Callahan]

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[yody]

I just got back, I will post some good pics of it later tonight. I would have to say, that was the BEST protouirng/showtouring car I have EVER seen. Every single aspect of the car was amazing, here is a list of things i learned/noticed about it;
900+horse without nitrous
all aluminum HEMI
6,000+ hours(8 months full time build)
1.5(or something) chopped roof, stock windshield, lexan rear glass
AME full frame, with C5 front suspension, and C5 Transaxle!!
Full Carbon Fiber front clip, fenders hood, inner fenders
CF inserts on top of door
devil brakes (weigh about 10 ilbs per corner, titanium rotors etc...
5" ground clearance
Has PPG paint
EVERY SINGLE part of this car was custom, and was all top notch craftsmanship, highly functional also. About the only thing that i ddin't find fuctional was the 20+" size wheels on the back. Many custom one off machined pieces all over the car. This thing plain blew "sickfish" back into the water! The guy answering all of the questions was their painter, and was real nice and helpful. I host some pics in a minute

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BTW almost every aspect of the car was about performance, and everything seemed to have a lot of function right along with complete form! To say the least I really liked this car! lol

[Damn True]

5" of ground clearance?!?!?!

That is amazing considering how low the thing looks. They must have really channeled over that AME chassis.

[CraigMorrison]

5" of ground clearance?!?!?!

That is amazing considering how low the thing looks. They must have really channeled over that AME chassis.

Alloway's Challenger has one of our frames under it as well. Bobby mounted the body so the pinch weld on the rocker was level with the lower edge of the chassis. The roof sits at 47" and he still has 4" of ground clearence.

Don't forget that Alan's car is both chopped and sectioned and the front end has been lengthened.

[Hot Rod]

Link for pics


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[Brandon Miller]

damn

[Steve Chryssos]

It is without a doubt the coolest, baddest car I have ever had the pleasure to lay eyes on. And anyone who thinks it ain't pro-touring has been smoking too much happy rock. It has all the right hardware.

All hail the new king of pro-touring. Long live the king.

[andrewb70]

It is without a doubt the coolest, baddest car I have ever had the pleasure to lay eyes on. And anyone who thinks it ain't pro-touring has been smoking too much happy rock. It has all the right hardware.

All hail the new king of pro-touring. Long live the king.

Amen Brother. I just hope we see someone running the F**K out of that car.

Andrew

[yody]

It is without a doubt the coolest, baddest car I have ever had the pleasure to lay eyes on. And anyone who thinks it ain't pro-touring has been smoking too much happy rock. It has all the right hardware.

All hail the new king of pro-touring. Long live the king.
Yup, basically what I said :slap: The guy I talked to said, the car will be on power tour, and will be driven hard on the street, he wasnt' too sure about the track. He also said the owner did have an equal hand in the creation of the car. Ask Vince I couldn't stop raving about this car all day. Like Steve said, the best car I have ever seen. It wasn't the prettiest to the "eye" like the balwin camaro, but it is better that way! BTW whats funny is I remember PHR mentioning way back that they were planning this car to be the baddest PT car ever, and that it is supposed to do Everything better than anything out there. They sure did succeed!! All they need now to hold the crown is to go out and do it!

I was the only guy crawling on the ground taking pics underneath the car LOL. What a humper I am!! and if anyone is wondering, they (from what i was told) cut open the down bars on the roll cage, then welded a small diameter tube inside of it and then put the carbon fiber insert in the opening. So that is why you see carbon fiber on the roll bars. SUpposedly it also stiffens up the cage(the extra tube). Another note is that the body unbolts from the entire chassis, without touching the cager, the entire body can be lifter up(or something like that)

[ViperBlue68]

Amen Brother. I just hope we see someone running the F**K out of that car.

Andrew

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:rtfm: so THIS car with 20"+ wheels is Pro-Touring??!! Andrew are you feeling allright??

[yody]

....................................uh Oh................................................ .

[Todds69]

I think I just messed in my pants :drool: That is one bad fish!

[syborg tt]

Very nice car indeed - i see lot's of idea's that i may copy

[andrewb70]

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:rtfm: so THIS car with 20"+ wheels is Pro-Touring??!! Andrew are you feeling allright??

Do we really want to go down this road again? I said my peace in the previous thread. I still think that 20 inch wheels do not belong on a car that is supposed to be designed with the ultimate handling in mind. Once again, this is not MY opinion, but a proven concept based on years of development by many racers combined with simple physics. If you pay careful attention to the Cuda, you will see that there were measures taken to cut unsprung weight. The rotors were made from titanium. This was no doubt done to counter the 20 inch wheels. This is certainly a step in the right direction.

Andrew



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[Charley Lillard]

That car was my favorite of the show. The owner is a friend and he has been telling me for months that it is the baddest MF on the planet. If you know Bob, every other word is a cuss word.. The pictures don't do the car justice. Alan Johnson and his crew are by far the most talented builders I have seen. Put this car in a room full of cars and every other car will pale in comparison. Bob deals in collector cars and I'm sure this car will be put up for sale at some point. I'm guessing this might be the first car of this type to sell for over 1 mil. This car was done in less than a year. I'm told Alan is building a Camaro that will equal this car. Seeing this car in person made the whole trip.

[67Sally]

Seeing this car in person was great. I can't wait to see this car run.
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[Van B]

The whole trip makes it really tough to be happy about going back into the garage and working on my POS. :)

Wish I would have made my plans earlier so I would have been able to make the dinner. There is always next year.

[jeff s]

This car sets the new standard for trickness.
Makes the $100- $200,000 cars look pale in comparison.
Write me a check for $650-$750,000 and we'd produce something amazing as well.
0-200-0 hmmmm....it better weigh 2300# and have 1200 hp.

[yody]

is your ultima going to the 0-200-0 shootoff?

[novicius]

Does it have an adjustable ride height? How does the front tires turn lock to lock?

[Steve Chryssos]

It's not airbagged. Bilstein coil-overs. I asked myself the same question so I watched them move the car during show tear-down. The clearance is there.

Another subtle trick: The air extractors on top of the front fenders double as clearance for the front tires during bump travel.

[camcojb]

Awesome car but not really driveable the way it was. Couldn't turn a corner to save it's life.

Jody

[yody]

looks can be decieving, ever seen Big Red up close? I can't see how those 315's turn either but they do

[novicius]

Yeah, that's what inquiring minds want to know: is there a "streetable" configuration? These can't be the race rims, are they? How does it go through the drive-thru?? :D

Awesome car, but I agree, those rims are a bit much...

[Brandon Miller]

If you look at all the pics available you can see it has plenty of turning clearance. It has the heat extractors in the fenders for additional tire clearance along with several mods to the front suspension.

[camcojb]

looks can be decieving, ever seen Big Red up close? I can't see how those 315's turn either but they do


I'm going by my eyes watching it being pushed out of the building. The aisle is pretty wide and turns into a much wider aisle on the outside edges to go to the exit. Every car made it easy, but they had to make a 5-6 point turn to get it around the corner. And yes, they were turning the wheel all it would go as you could see the guy hit the steering stops every time.

Jody

[MuscleRodz]

You don't need to turn when attempting the Z2Z challenge. Allen Johnson is right up there with Foose in execution IMO.

Mike

[camcojb]

You don't need to turn when attempting the Z2Z challenge. Allen Johnson is right up there with Foose in execution IMO.

Mike

I understand that. I just thought it would be cool if the car was driveable on the street when it's show car tour is over.

Jody

[vanzuuk1]

If you need to make a tight turn , stab the throttle .

[novicius]

Maybe smaller street tires up front would help things? :lol:

It would be nice to see the race rims and tires this thing will use -- Fikse's? CCR's? BBS's like Big Red?

[MuscleRodz]

I understand that. I just thought it would be cool if the car was driveable on the street when it's show car tour is over.

Jody
I definitely agree. Just pointing out that it is a purpose built car. The car is awesome and would say it is a perfectly built race car. Perfect is all I think the Johnsons know.

Mike

[formula]

does anyone have some nice pictures of it with the hood closed? i'd like to see more of the hood detail...

[MrQuick]

just one...

[F70t/a]

Damn thats a nice ride :drool:

[mdewb409]

That car was my favorite of the show. The owner is a friend and he has been telling me for months that it is the baddest MF on the planet. If you know Bob, every other word is a cuss word.. The pictures don't do the car justice. Alan Johnson and his crew are by far the most talented builders I have seen. Put this car in a room full of cars and every other car will pale in comparison. Bob deals in collector cars and I'm sure this car will be put up for sale at some point. I'm guessing this might be the first car of this type to sell for over 1 mil. This car was done in less than a year. I'm told Alan is building a Camaro that will equal this car. Seeing this car in person made the whole trip.


I know cussin Bob too...cant wait to see it up close. He was telling me about it a while back, but this is more than I had pictured!!:rolleyes5

[Big $$$]

That things cwazy.

[preston]

Turning the wheels is a big issue, but it seems like the track width must have to be severly compromised as well.

And as we all know lateral weight transfer as regards tire load is solely a function of CG height and track width.

I love how he took the theme of the blacked out top like the old Cuda's and Boss Mustangs had and replicated with the black carbon fiber finish.

I'm not so hip on the carbon fiber inserts in the roll cage, that's just gay. But the car is awesome I can't wait to read more details in PHR. Especially the body mods, they look reallynice.

[Bill Howell]

If you need to make a tight turn , stab the throttle . :lol: I was thinking the very same thing. Steering with your right foot. It was a very cool car to look at though. The front fenders were made totally out of carbon fiber from what I understand and the tops of the doors had c/f inlay. Which btw was flawless. Absolutely superb craftsmanship with so many little things, that it took several looks to see them all.

[Travis B]

[QUOTE=preston]I'm not so hip on the carbon fiber inserts in the roll cage, that's just gay.QUOTE]

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[Brandon Miller]

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[F70t/a]

God I love those Fab pictures :yum:

[camaro608]

excuse me....i have to wipe the drool off my face

[kboring]

All the **** talkers on this site piss me off.....I can guarantee you this car will be driven on the power tour and Bob will drive the piss out of it!!! Id like to see what all the **** talkers have. I'll guarantee you its not a 900 hp HEMI, sectioned, full tube chassis cuda...so STFU!!!

[Steve1968LS2]

All the **** talkers on this site piss me off.....I can guarantee you this car will be driven on the power tour and Bob will drive the piss out of it!!! Id like to see what all the **** talkers have. I'll guarantee you its not a 900 hp HEMI, sectioned, full tube chassis cuda...so STFU!!!

Yea, it's funny.. I would love to see this "show car" kick the **** out of 99% of the cars on this site at the track..

What would they say then???

[kboring]

HAHA...Its true.....I know for a fact the car was designed to run 200+ When they were building it Alan told me "we're gonna kill bob" jokingly. Id love to see any of you get on the track with it....I mean those 20's are gonna kill the performance:rolleyes5


Yea, it's funny.. I would love to see this "show car" kick the **** out of 99% of the cars on this site at the track..

What would they say then???

[camcojb]

All the **** talkers on this site piss me off.....I can guarantee you this car will be driven on the power tour and Bob will drive the piss out of it!!! Id like to see what all the **** talkers have. I'll guarantee you its not a 900 hp HEMI, sectioned, full tube chassis cuda...so STFU!!!

Maybe I'm missing something but virtually everything said about this car has been positive. It was the coolest car at SEMA in my opinion.

I only mentioned the turning deal as I watched them push it out and it could not turn well at all. Love to see it on Power Tour, I'll be there.

Jody

[Ralph LoGrasso]

Maybe I'm missing something but virtually everything said about this car has been positive. It was the coolest car at SEMA in my opinion.

I only mentioned the turning deal as I watched them push it out and it could not turn well at all. Love to see it on Power Tour, I'll be there.

Jody


I'm going to agree with Jody here, kboring. 99% of the comments in this thread have been positive, and those that did not like the car are entitled to their opinion just the same. It's called freedom of speech.

You're the most hostile person in this thread, so lets take it down a couple of notches.


Id like to see what all the **** talkers have. I'll guarantee you its not a 900 hp HEMI, sectioned, full tube chassis cuda...so STFU!!! I'm sorry, but how much did this car cost to build -- $1,000,000? Most people do not have that much money to spend on a house, let alone a car. And before you go off the handle about people talking smack, go back and view my comments about the car. I think it's an amazing machine, and definitely a top rank pro-tourer/performer. Alan Johnson does great work.

[67Sally]

Thanks for sharing the build pictures..........please share more.
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[MrQuick]

All the **** talkers on this site piss me off.....I can guarantee you this car will be driven on the power tour and Bob will drive the piss out of it!!! Id like to see what all the **** talkers have. I'll guarantee you its not a 900 hp HEMI, sectioned, full tube chassis cuda...so STFU!!!
Holy **** where the **** did that come from ******** head? Let try not to take thing so personal. Maybe a different post. Or maybe he's getting ready??
That was the baddest ************* car in that whole show **** and **** ******** this year. I'd beat the hell out of it ** * ****** **. kick ***. Any body hear it run? Video? Sound bite on cell phone?

[zbugger]

Vince, you're now on notice for using too many ***. If you want to handle this like real men, just say the word.

And kboring, .................

[MrQuick]

im trying ****head....LOL jk

[F70t/a]

Thanks for sharing the build pictures..........please share more.
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I agree, I would love to see more build pics. :smoke:

[moparguy]

That thing is fricken crazy! Looks like alot of time and engineering went into the build of that car. I can only hope to manage 1/3 the coolness of that car with my Charger buildup. :worship:

[Matt]

I posted it on a local forum, It gave me wood and I think it made everyone else's **** move too. It's cars like that, that make us budget guys have dreams.

[BADVELLE]

It amazes me how we get to see the SMOY winners earlier and earlier every year, and like any other big competition award out there, they are getting more and more money invested in them! Absolutely awesome car, no check that, unfreakin' believable car!! There is some very serious talent in GA (Alan Johnson, Greening's, Paul Atkins)!

[Travis B]

There is some very serious talent in GA (Alan Johnson, Greening's, Paul Atkins)!

No kidding....there is another good interior guy down there in greenings back yard basically

Shannon of Hot Rod interiors

[formula]

That transaxle shot is just sex...just absolute sex...

I want two.

I had no idea so much awesome stuff was going down in GA! I always figured I'd have a long drive if I ever decided to have some one build a nice car for me...

[Bob Johnson]

It almost looks like a detroit concept car the way they detailed it, I mean that as a compliment. I get sick of cars with chrome/candy/polish everywhere , this looks like a real designer thought it out.

I will take one in plum crazy or a pearl lime green, thank you.
the car was very close to being somewhat of a lime green. my 56 Ford Triton V/10 pick-up and my 47 woodie were both green...seemed like lots of people just don't like green...I wanted a panther pink color but Alan Johnson and designer Chris Itoh both nearly had a heart attack..I had just shoved the dual headlights and billboards down their unapproving throats so I gave in on the color and we all agreed on orange..I think it was the right move

[Bill Howell]

Welcome to our little piece of the internet universe Mr. Johnson. You have a very sweet car there.
I am looking forward to seeing it put through its paces. You are planning the 0-200-0 test right?

[Bob Johnson]

Absolutely and completely amazing! I am stunned. Are they really going to drive in the Z2Z? I hope so but I would be even more stunned to see someone drive a one off 1 mil car that hard. :worship:

I can't wait to get more info on this thing...In a recent mag there was a story about the resurgence of Mopars along with construction pics of some...including one from Alan Johnsons shop. I wonder if this is that car?
this is the only Cuda that Alan has ever built..in fact the first street machine he had built was my 69 RS Camaro that was runner-up to Chicayne for Goodguys Street machine of the Year..he is known for street rods, but my Camaro and Cuda have given him some serious gratification..probably more than his 32 3 window Ford Coupe with a 454 cu in. SB2 Nascar Chevy engine, Richmond 6 speed trans, and Winters Quick Change rear..He's got the G-Machine bug bad..and he don't want no cure

[Bob Johnson]

5" of ground clearance?!?!?!

That is amazing considering how low the thing looks. They must have really channeled over that AME chassis.
car is flat bottom..exhaust and driveshaft(not a torque tube)run thru the tunnel..nothing is lower than the frame, rockers,etc, what you see from the side is as low as it gets

[Bob Johnson]

Very nice car indeed - i see lot's of idea's that i may copy
seems like everyone is concerned about the 20" wheels...Alloway and Trepanier both went with 22's..we felt like that overpowered the car..when the car is in competition it will not have 20's..our sponsors like Bilstein, Hyperco Springs (which by the way are Titanium), and Addco will tell us what size tire and wheel will make the car handle the best. The tires on the Cuda are what come on the new Porsche Carrera GT. I think they will handle what we will throw at them on the street

[Bob Johnson]

It amazes me how we get to see the SMOY winners earlier and earlier every year, and like any other big competition award out there, they are getting more and more money invested in them! Absolutely awesome car, no check that, unfreakin' believable car!! There is some very serious talent in GA (Alan Johnson, Greening's, Paul Atkins)!
Alan Johnson, Paul Atkins, and Jessee Greening are all in Alabama

[ProdigyCustoms]

So you guy's know, I saw Bob's name on a shirt and approached him as a nobody. I talked with Bob for quite a while at PRI about the car. As down to earth, a real gearhead as anyone could meet.

Good to meet you Bob, I won't tell you again how cool the car is, It would start to sound like I was grabbling, LOL!

And for the record, Yody was not the only one under the car. Our own Larry Callahan caught me checking out the way the big boys do it.

[Bob Johnson]

That transaxle shot is just sex...just absolute sex...

I want two.

I had no idea so much awesome stuff was going down in GA! I always figured I'd have a long drive if I ever decided to have some one build a nice car for me...
the suspension is coming out as soon as Popular Hot Rodding does their shoot this Fri, Sat. all the barbs, seams, etc will be ground smooth and then annodized. The new trans and rear from Rockland Gear will be installed. They are good for over 1,000 hp

[Bob Johnson]

Alan Johnson, Paul Atkins, and Jessee Greening are all in Alabama
it's very gratifying for other enthusiasts to appreciate your efforts. I hope we can live up to the promises we have made about the performance of the car..I'm betting we can..we have some serious sponsors and they are as excited about this project as we are.

[Charley Lillard]

Ahhh...Nice to see Bob figured out how to post. I think Bob said there will be a big article in the April issue of Popular Hotrodding. That should be a hot selling issue. Bob says he is gonna buy me the Futureliner at Barrett-Jackson...Thanks Bob..

[Bob Johnson]

So you guy's know, I saw Bob's name on a shirt and approached him as a nobody. I talked with Bob for quite a while at PRI about the car. As down to earth, a real gearhead as anyone could meet.

Good to meet you Bob, I won't tell you again how cool the car is, It would start to sound like I was grabbling, LOL!

And for the record, Yody was not the only one under the car. Our own Larry Callahan caught me checking out the way the big boys do it.
sorry you guys have to get on the floor to see under the car..Alan has a thing about mirrors and the like..his feeling is if you want to see under the car get down and look under it

[Bill Howell]

Bob says he is gonna buy me the Futureliner at Barrett-Jackson...Thanks Bob..

Damn nice to have friends huh, Charlie? LOL

[Bob Johnson]

Ahhh...Nice to see Bob figured out how to post. I think Bob said there will be a big article in the April issue of Popular Hotrodding. That should be a hot selling issue. Bob says he is gonna buy me the Futureliner at Barrett-Jackson...Thanks Bob..
you've got way more stuff than anyone deserves already. I have my eye on that puppy too..but I believe there will be someone there with longer arms and deeper pockets than we have..let's do a joint venture..The Cuda will have the biggest coverage ever in PHR. Johnny Hunkins is all fired up and promises me the best photos of all time. he's spending nearly 3 days shooting it. There is supposed to be a pull out poster in the magazine. lots of build up photos too. If I know Johnny, it will be the coolest photography ever. It's the April issue on the stands in Feb..get a subscription if you don't already have one. I have a hard time finding PHR in most places

[harshman]

If I know Johnny, it will be the coolest photography ever.
You said that right. The guy has an amazing eye.

[Bob Johnson]

Welcome to our little piece of the internet universe Mr. Johnson. You have a very sweet car there.
I am looking forward to seeing it put through its paces. You are planning the 0-200-0 test right?
it is our plan to run in the Big Red Challenge..I want them to allow the naturally aspirated cars like Big Red and the Cuda be able to run nitrous. It's easy for the supercharged, blower, or turbo cars to raise their boost levels to compensate for the over 7,000 adjusted foot above sea level altitude. Normally aspirated cars would have to build a 16 to 1 motor to compete..nitrous on the normally aspirated motors would level the playing field. We are working with Year One to do a challenge at their Year One experience in May. They have Atlanta Dragway, and Road Atlanta at their disposal..skid pan, road course, autocross, etc..everything but enough space to do the 0 to 200 to 0. We'll be working on that.

[Bill Howell]

We are working with Year One to do a challenge at their Year One experience in May. They have Atlanta Dragway, and Road Atlanta at their disposal..skid pan, road course, autocross, etc..everything but enough space to do the 0 to 200 to 0. We'll be working on that.
I-85 is right there, Problem solved :naughty: LOL
I hope you make that show, I will see you there.
As far as PHR goes, I am now looking forward to TWO issues coming out in the next couple months. :bananna2:

[Ralph LoGrasso]

it is our plan to run in the Big Red Challenge..I want them to allow the naturally aspirated cars like Big Red and the Cuda be able to run nitrous. It's easy for the supercharged, blower, or turbo cars to raise their boost levels to compensate for the over 7,000 adjusted foot above sea level altitude. Normally aspirated cars would have to build a 16 to 1 motor to compete..nitrous on the normally aspirated motors would level the playing field. We are working with Year One to do a challenge at their Year One experience in May. They have Atlanta Dragway, and Road Atlanta at their disposal..skid pan, road course, autocross, etc..everything but enough space to do the 0 to 200 to 0. We'll be working on that.


A 0 to 200 to 0 challenge at the year one event, or simply on the East Coast would be phenomenal. Please keep us abreast of new information.

[Bob Johnson]

A 0 to 200 to 0 challenge at the year one event, or simply on the East Coast would be phenomenal. Please keep us abreast of new information.
Maxton has the mile required..it's just a little rough and not easy to hook up..We're seriously considering carrying the Cuda to their first 2006 run in April..East Coast Timing Association..Maxton N. C. I think Hot Rod Mag will be covering it..If we go, PHR will also be there to cover the Cuda

[Bob Johnson]

I-85 is right there, Problem solved :naughty: LOL
I hope you make that show, I will see you there.
As far as PHR goes, I am now looking forward to TWO issues coming out in the next couple months. :bananna2:
I-985 is also right there..and a lot less traffic.

[Ralph LoGrasso]

Maxton has the mile required..it's just a little rough and not easy to hook up..We're seriously considering carrying the Cuda to their first 2006 run in April..East Coast Timing Association..Maxton N. C. I think Hot Rod Mag will be covering it..If we go, PHR will also be there to cover the Cuda


I was going to recommend Maxton in my initial post, but I thought there might not be enough stopping distance and / or run off. I'm planning on running my car at Maxton when complete, I'd love to see the Cuda down there running.

I've heard Maxton requires a parachute (even if not in use?) for all cars running over 160mph; I wonder if this will be discontinued for the 0-200-0 event?

[69Nova]

As far as PHR goes, I am now looking forward to TWO issues coming out in the next couple months. :bananna2:

Gee what could be the other issue you want to see Bill.

[Brandon Miller]

the car was very close to being somewhat of a lime green. my 56 Ford Triton V/10 pick-up and my 47 woodie were both green...seemed like lots of people just don't like green...I wanted a panther pink color but Alan Johnson and designer Chris Itoh both nearly had a heart attack..I had just shoved the dual headlights and billboards down their unapproving throats so I gave in on the color and we all agreed on orange..I think it was the right move

So that awesome Cuda is yours? I remember gawking over you V10 Effie at the 25th Super Nats. My friend and I spoke with you briefly. I took tons of pictures of that truck It was simply amazing. The yellow wheels on the green truck was the killer thing for me.

[kennyd]

bob, welcome, i was wondering when you were going to sign-up .
bob has some of the best cars ever build in his car stable, built by one of the best builders ! but my favorite is the woody , i would kill for the car - need anybody to come up missing ?

[Steve Chryssos]

seems like everyone is concerned about the 20" wheels...

It's good to see that you guys planned multiple setups for the car (i.e. street and race). Too many folks assume that if the car is too slick or too expensive that it won't get used. K&K Insurance offers competition coverage, so running a high end car is not such a risky proposition.

I'm looking forward to the Maxton test.

[harshman]

i didn't see ot anywhere so... what is the weight of the bad boy?

[Bob Johnson]

I was going to recommend Maxton in my initial post, but I thought there might not be enough stopping distance and / or run off. I'm planning on running my car at Maxton when complete, I'd love to see the Cuda down there running.

I've heard Maxton requires a parachute (even if not in use?) for all cars running over 160mph; I wonder if this will be discontinued for the 0-200-0 event?

The Cuda has a chute mount behind the tag..we remove the tag and 2 chutes mount behind where the tag was..it also has a full fire system

[Bob Johnson]

haven't weighed it yet..hoping 2800 or so

[Bob Johnson]

bob, welcome, i was wondering when you were going to sign-up .
bob has some of the best cars ever build in his car stable, built by one of the best builders ! but my favorite is the woody , i would kill for the car - need anybody to come up missing ?
don't we all?

[fletcherscustoms]

wow

[syborg tt]

I would have to say it's one of the most innovative/impressive car ever built and I look forward to seeing it in person and seeing more build pictures of the car. To me it’s not about the finished car it’s about what it took to get it there.

It's cars like this that move the car building hobby in new directions. Even if most people can only dream of building a car like this at least they can learn new ideas. If everyone did the same thing over and over again it would get very boring.

[69Nova]

The Cuda has a chute mount behind the tag..we remove the tag and 2 chutes mount behind where the tag was..it also has a full fire system

Oh man, I could have alot of fun with a parachute....

[Ralph LoGrasso]

The Cuda has a chute mount behind the tag..we remove the tag and 2 chutes mount behind where the tag was..it also has a full fire system


Ingenious design.

[Steve1968LS2]

Ahhh...Nice to see Bob figured out how to post. I think Bob said there will be a big article in the April issue of Popular Hotrodding. That should be a hot selling issue. Bob says he is gonna buy me the Futureliner at Barrett-Jackson...Thanks Bob..

Yea, we are doing a HUGE story on it.. think in terms of a MEGE-Feature.. lol

We also want to do a feature on the "details" of the car and on the build up.

Johnny will be spending 3 days shooting it and he has a TON of special photo gear, should be cool.

[Steve1968LS2]

You said that right. The guy has an amazing eye.

That's why I listen to everything he tells me about photography..

[yody]

So are you guys going to change the seats when you do the 0-200-0? Do you think the low back seats would be a good idea for that kinda speed?

[Bob Johnson]

So are you guys going to change the seats when you do the 0-200-0? Do you think the low back seats would be a good idea for that kinda speed?
we'll have Recaro carbon fiber race seats..

[Bob Johnson]

So that awesome Cuda is yours? I remember gawking over you V10 Effie at the 25th Super Nats. My friend and I spoke with you briefly. I took tons of pictures of that truck It was simply amazing. The yellow wheels on the green truck was the killer thing for me.
it gave me a chubby too when Alan first showed it to me

[Bob Johnson]

we'll have Recaro carbon fiber race seats..
we will be changing tires, wheels, seats, front and rear spoilers,and a few other things like maybe blocking off the grill for better aerodynamics

[F70t/a]

we will be changing tires, wheels, seats, front and rear spoilers,and a few other things like maybe blocking off the grill for better aerodynamics



Any pics of all that stuff? Will it be on PHR? :yum: :yeah:

[Brandon Miller]

If this is the same truck that was discussed and I think it is, here are some shots of Bob's F100 from the 25th Super Nats.

[Bill Howell]

If this is the same truck that was discussed and I think it is, here are some shots of Bob's F100 from the 25th Super Nats.

That was here right?

[Brandon Miller]

That was here right?

Yep that last one in Pigeon Forge. Now the Nats are in knoxville.

[Kevin@W2W]

I had a chance to check the car out at PRI and I was much impressed with the overall quality and package of the car. It is by far one of the nicest builds I have seen in a while.

I would of snapped more pics of it if I had my tripod with me and would LOVE to have some time with the car in a good setting.

Here a few I snapped.


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[Alan Johnson]

Any pics of all that stuff? Will it be on PHR? :yum: :yeah:
not the first issue..we're talking to BBS about wheels..haven't made the wing that we will use to compete..nor the front spoiler..

[ProTeal55]

Awesome car :cool:

[Bob Johnson]

Johnny Hunkins from PHR was @ Johnsons Hot Rod Shop over the week-end to shoot the Cuda..will be in the PHR April issue..on stands in February..Some super photography..should be about 16 pages of shots and build up coverage shots Alan made during construction. Biggest coverage ever for PHR.. I just wish you could find PHR on a magazine stand somewhere. When my Camaro ran, I was out of town and went to 10 places before I had to go to a big bookstore to find PHR. I had one at home but I wanted to see it before I got back to town. Johnny is one bmfer when he's behind a camera..I think everyone will be impressed with his work,,the build up photography by Alan is no slouch either....

[Bill Howell]

Bob,
Johnny is the man on pictures for sure. I witnessed it last month myself. He will go to all lengths to get it right, however, he gets a bit testy at sunset if you run out of gas-LOL (Sorry about that Johnny)
I have found our local Walmart and Books a Million to be my best bet on newstand issues. Of course I have not had to look for a copy since I subscribed.

[Bob Johnson]

this was the F1 Alan built for me..I sold it at Barrett Jackson last January..Same guy bought my 56 F1 and Air Ride Technologies 2004 SEMA Ford Truck..He was a Los Angeles Mexican Grocery store owner..I think he bought a few more cars too..He knew quality.....from looking at his purchases

[parsonsj]

will be in the PHR April issue

I know I'm looking forward to seeing some great Hunkins shots of that car. Hunkins and Alan Johnson are two of the very very best in the world. Bob, congrats on the Cuda!

jp

[Bob Johnson]

Bob,
Johnny is the man on pictures for sure. I witnessed it last month myself. He will go to all lengths to get it right, however, he gets a bit testy at sunset if you run out of gas-LOL (Sorry about that Johnny)
I have found our local Walmart and Books a Million to be my best bet on newstand issues. Of course I have not had to look for a copy since I subscribed.
Alan shot some pix of Johnny and the Cuda while Johnny was shooting..someone tell me how to forward them to this site and I'll share them with you. They're pretty good..You think Johnny gets rattled at sunset, you ought to see him when the light gets perfect and his battery takes a dump as does his back-up battery due to the super cold weather..on his last sunset shoot..he had a head cold, the flu etc, had been laying on the cold wet ground for two days and thennn..dead batteries..he went medieval..but he and Alan made up for it..Monday he sent me a pix of the Cuda he had taken..it was pink..said he didn't know what had happened..it was a new Camera Ed Zinke had given him before he left..he hadn't used it and for some reason the car turned out pink in all his photos..didn't know why..I just knew he was BSin me,, but he stuck with his guns and said he was going to either come back out or try to change the color..wanted to know what I thought..I had already seen some pink hues in the billboards when photographed in certain light and kidded Alan that the car was destined to be pink..I said maybe there is a story to tell here..guy wants his car kind of panther pink and builder and designer ride him until he changes his choice..but when photographed, it shows pink. Johnny never fessed up but Alan started laughing after a couple days of me jabbering about the phomenon.

[Bill Howell]

send them to me and I will post them up for you!
billybigblock(at)gmail(dot)com

BTW. sounds like you should save Johnny the trouble and just paint it Pink-LOL

[Steve Chryssos]

......You think Johnny gets rattled at sunset, you ought to see him when the light gets perfect and his battery takes a dump as does his back-up battery due to the super cold weather..on his last sunset shoot..he had a head cold, the flu etc, had been laying on the cold wet ground for two days and thennn..dead batteries..he went medieval.....

I've watched Johnny work on many occassions over the years. He is extremely dedicated. If he had to lay on a bed of nails to get the right camera angle, then he'd surely come away looking like swiss cheese and springin' a few leaks.

It's fun to watch.

[groovyjay]

That car trully is out of this world. Something-never-seen-before stuff on that car. Clad to see/read the owner (Bob) telling us more about the details. Can't wait for that PHR coverage! :firefire:

[Travis B]

bob,

D oyou have any pics of the billet firewall, and how it was mounted

[Steve1968LS2]

Sure looks pink in the pictures I saw.. we might be switching to Nikons...

[DJW32]

Does anyone have sound clips of the car? idle, cruise, or WOT

[Alan Johnson]

bob,

D oyou have any pics of the billet firewall, and how it was mounted

This is the first time I have posted anything so hopefully this will work right.

[F70t/a]

That is a trick a$$ firewall :hail:

[Ralph LoGrasso]

Wow, just wow. Amazing work.

[Bob Johnson]

That is a trick a$$ firewall :hail:
it's a piece of aluminum plate that Alan machined a design on. The rear motor plate looks like it's a part of the firewall but there's a small gap between them. The front motor plate is aluminum and also serves as the mount for the accessories i.e. power steering pump, air conditioning compressor (gotta keep the fat man cool), and alternator. no mechanical water pump..two electric pumps hidden below..hoses run to the side and thru the frame to the radiator..one pump for each bank.

[F70t/a]

We need more pics,lol :headbang:


By any chance does the cuda have wipers? or is it not ment to drive in the rain?

[Bob Johnson]

We need more pics,lol :headbang:


By any chance does the cuda have wipers? or is it not ment to drive in the rain?
it has wipers..they're just tucked down out of sight..whenever I carry something nice out for a drive or ride a motorcycle..it generally rains..

[Bob Johnson]

Does anyone have sound clips of the car? idle, cruise, or WOT
I wish..the car was rushed together for SEMA..then PRI..then the photo shoot..We're tearing it back apart to install the Comp Cams Fast Computer, the Sony stereo, polish and anodize the suspension, install the fire system etc..then we'll get some sounds for you..and me..hope it sounds better than my Camaro which I thought sounded pretty damn bad for a street car..the alarms didn't seem to like it very much though..nor my neighbors

[Bill Howell]

Here are the pictures Bob sent me.
Very nice shots Bob.
It will take several post to get them all here.
Hunkins is the man!

[Bill Howell]

A couple more

[Bill Howell]

rear shots

[Bill Howell]

Bob and his Cuda

[Bill Howell]

My favorite shot!

[F70t/a]

:kewlpics: Bob is one sexy dude :yum: He gets all the chicks

[Bob Johnson]

Here are the pictures Bob sent me.
Very nice shots Bob.
It will take several post to get them all here.
Hunkins is the man!
these aren't the Hunkey man's shots..they're classified "secret" I haven't seen but one shot..I'd send it to you but then I'd have to kill you. These are ones made by Angie..Alan's wife..Johnny's are supposed to make these look sick

[Bob Johnson]

:kewlpics: Bob is one sexy dude :yum: He gets all the chicks
bout as sexy as a turd in a punch bowl

[Bob Johnson]

My favorite shot!
this is when the light was just right and Johnny batteries took a dump. I wish we had some shots of him when this happened..he was past losing it

[Bob Johnson]

rear shots
notice the tail light lens..Tony at Alan's shop put some mo jo on them..they look a whole lot better..we're getting new ones made..paid 3K for the first ones..he wanted 2K more..I said the 3K was beyond insanity..2 more was *&%$@#?&. I think he understood me. This one off stuff is crazy expensive

[Bob Johnson]

:kewlpics: Bob is one sexy dude :yum: He gets all the chicks
I couldn't get laid if I was the only man on a WAC Troup Train and I had a handful of dead presidents..er Ben wasn't a president was he...

[Bill Howell]

these aren't the Hunkey man's shots..they're classified "secret" I haven't seen but one shot..I'd send it to you but then I'd have to kill you. These are ones made by Angie..Alan's wife..Johnny's are supposed to make these look sick

Oh, I know these are not Hunkins pictures, I was saying he is the man because in that picture he is laying in the water to get the shot. Whatever it takes, he gets it right, therefore he is the MAN. :kewlpics:

[Bill Howell]

I couldn't get laid if I was the only man on a WAC Troup Train and I had a handful of dead presidents..er Ben wasn't a president was he...


LOL, how many of these youngsters you think even know what a WAC is???

[Bob Johnson]

LOL, how many of these youngsters you think even know what a WAC is???
I'll take the 5th...amendment.. not alcohol..

[Steve1968LS2]

My favorite shot!

:lol:

[zrrigid]

notice the tail light lens..Tony at Alan's shop put some mo jo on them..they look a whole lot better..we're getting new ones made..paid 3K for the first ones..he wanted 2K more..I said the 3K was beyond insanity..2 more was *&%$@#?&. I think he understood me. This one off stuff is crazy expensive

I have to ask, what makes a $3000.00 set of tail lens?

[Bob Johnson]

the lens are cheap... the molds cost the big bucks..if you divide it across 1,000 or say 10,000 pieces, it isn't much..but divide it across 1 or 2...it'll hurt you bad..we'll probably sell some of the rear spoilers..maybe some front spoilers..help soften the blow..but the other carbon pieces are modified way too much to fit a regular Cuda..I want to measure across the tail light lens..maybe we could sell them to guys with 72 and later Cudas to get rid of those hideous round lights

[Jim Nilsen]

Awesome car and sooo much custom work done that everywhere I look at it there is something one off. Just incredible :yum:

With all of the carbon fiber on it and aluminum I am very curious as to what the car weighs?

Thanks for the pics and hope everything goes for you when it gets to the Z2Z. It will be one cool video if it gets captured in motion.



Jim Nilsen

[F70t/a]

Does the frame come off the car?

[Alan Johnson]

Does the frame come off the car?
Yes, here are a couple of photos of the bare frame and rear cradle

[F70t/a]

Damn this cuda is just on another level!!!! :smoke:

[kmcanally]

A beautiful "Art" Morrison frame....

[zrrigid]

So that's for the carbon piece all the way across the back? That is understandable, there is alot of time in building the mold. Did they use foam or clay to shape the piece before they made the mold? Did they pull the mold right off the car? Thank you Bob and Alan for posting the cool pics and the answers. Alan, don't you think that firewall would have been a little easier on a CNC? J/K, way cool!

Ian Black
Carriage Works
Grandview, MO

[Bob Johnson]

A beautiful "Art" Morrison frame....
Art Morrison just bent the main frame rails..Alan had no way to bend them vertically to that degree so he got Art do them..Alan and crew built the chassis..it's Art's Rack and pinion..Alan doesn't have a CNC..but he's looking at them..gotta use what you have..got to have enough of that kind of work to keep a CNC busy. 3K is not for the Carbon piece across the back..just the two tail lights..Alan didn't charge for this..I had them made by an outside vendor...I didn't see how he did the spoiler but it's just a carbon overlay now..they're going to do a mold and make it all carbon fiber. maybe Alan will respond on all the metal and clay work it took to do that set of front fenders and hood. Chris Itoh, Alan, Tony, and Greg did the clay work..I tried it for a few minutes and promptly threw in the towel. Chris was a real trooper..not many designers come out and work like he did. I truly believe no other designer could have accomplished what he did..his ability to communicate with the owner and the builder is phenomenal He is tha man. Alan is the man..Tony Inman is the man..hell even Alan's dad is the man..Angie is the wo man. I know of no other shop that does work to this level all in house. Hard to farm out work when you're in podunk Alabama.

[Bob Johnson]

Awesome car and sooo much custom work done that everywhere I look at it there is something one off. Just incredible :yum:

With all of the carbon fiber on it and aluminum I am very curious as to what the car weighs?

Thanks for the pics and hope everything goes for you when it gets to the Z2Z. It will be one cool video if it gets captured in motion.



Jim Nilsen
we're hoping it weighs in the neighborhood of 2800

[F70t/a]

Can you remove the floor also? God if I could only be bob for a week :hammer: :drive:

[Bob Johnson]

Can you remove the floor also? God if I could only be bob for a week :hammer: :drive:
be careful what you wish for..it ain't easy being me...the perception is the little icon on your message driving and shifting, when the reality is the icon hitting himself in the head with a mallet..you can be me when bill time comes..ouch!!!!

[Charley Lillard]

Bob said he was gonna let me drive the Cuda....

[Bob Johnson]

Bob said he was gonna let me drive the Cuda....
you've got all the excitement you can stand in your own stables..I want to be Charlie..all his chit is paid for

[BMF Machine]

[QUOTE=Bob Johnson]..Alan doesn't have a CNC..but he's looking at them..gotta use what you have..got to have enough of that kind of work to keep a CNC busy.



Amen

[Travis B]

bob and alan thanks for posting all pics and info......

[protouring70]

Hey when are you going to bring it home. I haven't been down lately to see ya, so I didnn't know if it was here yet. I figured if it was Joe would have already mentioned it. Let me know because I would like to see it up close. I have heard nothing but great reviews about it!!!
Congrats!!!
Brent ( Your nieghbor up the road )

[syborg tt]

Maybe it's just me but i think there should be a gathering at Bob's house

[F70t/a]

be careful what you wish for..it ain't easy being me...the perception is the little icon on your message driving and shifting, when the reality is the icon hitting himself in the head with a mallet..you can be me when bill time comes..ouch!!!!


lol I will be you after the bill :evil:

[protouring70]

That sounds like fun. Bob has a really nice place and a stable full of cars! Maybe he might check back in.

[southernfriedcj]

Unfreakin' real! That is one sweet Cuda.

[Bob Johnson]

Hey when are you going to bring it home. I haven't been down lately to see ya, so I didnn't know if it was here yet. I figured if it was Joe would have already mentioned it. Let me know because I would like to see it up close. I have heard nothing but great reviews about it!!!
Congrats!!!
Brent ( Your nieghbor up the road )
you don't have to wait for the Cuda to come over..come buy me a lunch or something. There's quite a bit of work left to do before it comes home. I don't think it will be here before March. Joe is threatening to spank me with his stang..like he tried with his nitrous inhaling Camaro on my 69 Camaro..his bark was much worse than his bite..but you got to love him..big cowl hood scoops, guages on top of the dash, neon underneath, mighty mouse emblazoned here and there..but the "necks" love it..and we've got our share of them up here.. :3gears:

[Bob Johnson]

Maybe it's just me but i think there should be a gathering at Bob's house
come on down..you can go see some real stuff at Milton Robsons while you're here..he has the best car building and one of the finest and most diversified collections in the world..not much G stuff but some super rare super nice muscle

[Bob Johnson]

That sounds like fun. Bob has a really nice place and a stable full of cars! Maybe he might check back in.
come down to the Year One experience..Milton and I just live just 15 minutes away..we'll dispell the rumor that Georgians all live in mobile homes, chew baccky, drink shine, eat possum etc.

[Bill Howell]

Bob,
:secret: Just don't remind anyone that "Delieverance" was filmed right down the road, or shall I say up the road. lol
I live in Pigeon Forge, but born and raised in Macon. Not all Georgia Peaches grow on trees! :yum:

[kennyd]

come on down..you can go see some real stuff at Milton Robsons while you're here..he has the best car building and one of the finest and most diversified collections in the world..not much G stuff but some super rare super nice muscle


i was told about this guy's collection , huge building .

[protouring70]

Yeah we got to love the poor boy. But the way things are looking around here the neons are begining to fit in pretty good!!! HAHA!!

Nah, I kinda like it now it has grown on me, as for MIGHTY MOUSE we all want to be young again!!

Here is a picture of our friends car. It is a very nice and clean car. The color is beautiful at night time.

[Bob Johnson]

i was told about this guy's collection , huge building .
just a paltry 150X250..just under an acre building..probably 30 foot tall ceilings with more gingerbread signs, buildings ie gas stations, diners,railway express offices soda fountains etc. don't get any better..poor old ignorent Ga. boys we are..yam dankees and west coast libs think we still go barefoot, marry our cousins and eat road kill. they think worse of Alabama and Mississippi..some of the best guys in the game as we stated earlier are from those two states..George Poteet lives in Missippi..he's the baddest guy in this game by far..no one is even close..he has at least 12 cars currently under construction..one of which is the Cuda on Trepaniers site..1400 horse 4 cylinder turbo hemi headed Mopar..unreal is all of his stuff..how can one man watch 12+ projects and keep them going in the right direction? And they are all cool an innovative..nothing cookie cutter

[Bob Johnson]

Yeah we got to love the poor boy. But the way things are looking around here the neons are begining to fit in pretty good!!! HAHA!!

Nah, I kinda like it now it has grown on me, as for MIGHTY MOUSE we all want to be young again!!

Here is a picture of our friends car. It is a very nice and clean car. The color is beautiful at night time.
I spent probably 15K to keep my hood from having a big bulge in it..ie dry sump, one off fuel injection etc. These guys spend extra to get their hood higher..different strokes..what makes the world go round..if we all liked the same stuff it would get boring..I got enuff chrome on my dome..don't want anything shiny on my cars..just a ;little to offset the satin, black, etc. The necks don't like it..they want the shiny stuff..kinda strange cause I'm knocking necks and I'm one myself in mosty respects..just not in cars

[Charley Lillard]

For those of you on the west coast....neck=redneck...

[BADVELLE]

Bob - I saw your Camaro, I thought Allan went over the top with that one, but this Cuda is ridiculous (in a good way)!! Allan is one of the finest builders around, whether early rods or anything for that matter. Whatever comes out of his shop is top notch, period! It is no wonder the Greenings moved down to the south, it has to be inspiring to be in the same region as like Allan (not to mention Atkins and Alloway). Guys like Charley, Poteet and yourself give us guys something to dream about, the cars you have or having built are out of this world! Thanks.

[Steve Chryssos]

For those of you on the west coast....neck=redneck...

Thanks. Now, what's a possum?

[Bob Johnson]

Bob - I saw your Camaro, I thought Allan went over the top with that one, but this Cuda is ridiculous (in a good way)!! Allan is one of the finest builders around, whether early rods or anything for that matter. Whatever comes out of his shop is top notch, period! It is no wonder the Greenings moved down to the south, it has to be inspiring to be in the same region as like Allan (not to mention Atkins and Alloway). Guys like Charley, Poteet and yourself give us guys something to dream about, the cars you have or having built are out of this world! Thanks.
thanks a bunch..I hate to read in magazines guys writing in complaining about the big buck builds..they want more on backyard budget stuff. When I was raising my children and cars weren't a priority, I used to read magazines and dream of the day I could afford and justify spending the bucks it took to build a top notch car. I got crazier and crazier and decided before the big buck bug hit street machines that had already hit hot rods, I wanted to build the best there ever was street machine. How many people can say I had the best of anything that ever was? Well I think Alan has done it..I'm sure there are naysayers, but the feedback from most of the top builders that were @ SEMA supported my opinion. I just hope this car gives inspiration to car guys and gives them motivation to work and move forward. Big buck guys buying up muscle cars just makes the cars on the lower rungs more valuable. They are good for the sport. Whoever heard of anyone wanting the stockmarket to go down where you could afford to buy. The Barrett Jacksons, Mecums, R&M's, Russo Steeles, Kruses, Silvers, etc are good for the game. If you can't afford a first gen Camaro, go to the second gen. Each one that goes up makes the next less valuable one go up too. Get in at the level you can afford, do some cool stuff to it and don't knock the big guns that are bringing all the values up. keep humping and you will be the big boy one day. Like Charlie

[Bob Johnson]

Thanks. Now, what's a possum?
come to The Experience in April and we'll have some..you're probably eating it at your favorite chinese restaurant and don't know it..or maybe its cousin the rat...

[Bob Johnson]

Bob,
:secret: Just don't remind anyone that "Delieverance" was filmed right down the road, or shall I say up the road. lol
I live in Pigeon Forge, but born and raised in Macon. Not all Georgia Peaches grow on trees! :yum:
my iligimate ******* son, AKA Bob Johnson who resides just west of Atlanta, professes to be the REAL BOB JOHNSON, is trying to post his all aluminum twin turbo big block Camaro on this site. He can't seem to get the site to respond..his email is [email protected] ...Bobby has had some cool cars and for a long time held records in the NMCA in a Nova of his. His Camaro is going to be a bad boy. He promises to kick my fanny..I just wish he'd learn how to drive a straight shift and get three pedals in the floor..I just want to get him in a curve and watch those turbos come alive..merry go round..

edit note: fixed your link

[Steve1968LS2]

Thanks. Now, what's a possum?

Supper :yum:

[Charley Lillard]

Leave me out of this. I'm not even a blip on the radar compared to Robeson, Poteet, Johnson.. I'm a wannabe...........

[Bob Johnson]

Supper :yum:
the correct name is opossum..it's a bit rat like creature with a long tail that is mesmerized by headlights on a car..it just stops in the middle of the road and looks at the lights and bump bump..poor folks eat iot like rabbit and poke salad..ever seen a nutria in new orleans? very similar

[Bob Johnson]

I've seen the hand you're playing..you can't bs a bser..some of these guys haven't been to your not so humble abode..I have..got your own race track/motorcross track in the back yard and the house sits about a drag strip or more off the road..

[camcojb]

I've seen the hand you're playing..you can't bs a bser..some of these guys haven't been to your not so humble abode..I have..got your own race track/motorcross track in the back yard and the house sits about a drag strip or more off the road..

:ssst: Charley is fortunate for sure, nice guy all around for a jackass! :woot:

Jody

[speedster]

Guys like you and Charley and others are an inspiration to people like me. Think about it. We see pictures of your garages, the cars are usually in the magazines, and we drool over them. I wasn't originally going to do a PT car, but after seeing so many fine examples, the bug hit and hit hard. I am now probably spending five times what I though I would, but in the end, the car will be far superior from its former self. If I went to Barnes and Noble and saw a magazine cover with 1979 Ford Fairmont on it, I probably wouldn't buy it. No inspiration. You guys have collections that inspire. I doubt there is a person here that doesn't dream of having their own killer garage full of top notch cars. It gives us a goal to shoot for.

Thanks, :drool:
-Bruce

[F70t/a]

More pics papi BOB :headbang: :hammer:

[Bill Howell]

my iligimate ******* son, AKA Bob Johnson who resides just west of Atlanta, professes to be the REAL BOB JOHNSON, is trying to post his all aluminum twin turbo big block Camaro on this site. He can't seem to get the site to respond..his email is [email protected] ...Bobby has had some cool cars and for a long time held records in the NMCA in a Nova of his. His Camaro is going to be a bad boy. He promises to kick my fanny..I just wish he'd learn how to drive a straight shift and get three pedals in the floor..I just want to get him in a curve and watch those turbos come alive..merry go round..

edit note: fixed your link

I sent him an email, if he sends me the pictures, I will post em up for him.

One thing I have never understood is hunting possums. Guys will have hundreds of dollars in hunting dogs, Stay out all night to hunt possum. Then the sport is to "tree" them or a ****. If they do catch one, they let them go. Stupid sport, if I do say so myself.
**** is a raccoon for you city folks......

[F70t/a]

I got use to saying **** when i lived in texas, when i came back to cali people thought i was a huge racist :seizure:

[Al Moreno]

thanks a bunch..I hate to read in magazines guys writing in complaining about the big buck builds..they want more on backyard budget stuff. When I was raising my children and cars weren't a priority, I used to read magazines and dream of the day I could afford and justify spending the bucks it took to build a top notch car. I got crazier and crazier and decided before the big buck bug hit street machines that had already hit hot rods, I wanted to build the best there ever was street machine. How many people can say I had the best of anything that ever was? Well I think Alan has done it..I'm sure there are naysayers, but the feedback from most of the top builders that were @ SEMA supported my opinion. I just hope this car gives inspiration to car guys and gives them motivation to work and move forward. Big buck guys buying up muscle cars just makes the cars on the lower rungs more valuable. They are good for the sport. Whoever heard of anyone wanting the stockmarket to go down where you could afford to buy. The Barrett Jacksons, Mecums, R&M's, Russo Steeles, Kruses, Silvers, etc are good for the game. If you can't afford a first gen Camaro, go to the second gen. Each one that goes up makes the next less valuable one go up too. Get in at the level you can afford, do some cool stuff to it and don't knock the big guns that are bringing all the values up. keep humping and you will be the big boy one day. Like Charlie


Very well said, Bob thanks for the inspiration!

[Bob Johnson]

I sent him an email, if he sends me the pictures, I will post em up for him.

One thing I have never understood is hunting possums. Guys will have hundreds of dollars in hunting dogs, Stay out all night to hunt possum. Then the sport is to "tree" them or a ****. If they do catch one, they let them go. Stupid sport, if I do say so myself.
**** is a raccoon for you city folks......
kind of like fishing..the sport is the catch, not the kill..now the other west Ga. Bob Johnson will ketch,kill, and have a mighty fine meal off it..that's the original motivation for having a fast car, the coons couldn't get out of the way...

[Bob Johnson]

Guys like you and Charley and others are an inspiration to people like me. Think about it. We see pictures of your garages, the cars are usually in the magazines, and we drool over them. I wasn't originally going to do a PT car, but after seeing so many fine examples, the bug hit and hit hard. I am now probably spending five times what I though I would, but in the end, the car will be far superior from its former self. If I went to Barnes and Noble and saw a magazine cover with 1979 Ford Fairmont on it, I probably wouldn't buy it. No inspiration. You guys have collections that inspire. I doubt there is a person here that doesn't dream of having their own killer garage full of top notch cars. It gives us a goal to shoot for.

Thanks, :drool:
-Bruce
it's guys like you, not the crybabies whining about someone who has worked long and hard and now enjoys the fruits of his labor, that make it to the top..keep working and striving to meet your goals..hard work overcomes all

[Bob Johnson]

More pics papi BOB :headbang: :hammer:
Alan is the pix man..he's got the car and a bad ass camera..

[Charley Lillard]

Or deal Crack.....

[Bill Howell]

kind of like fishing..the sport is the catch, not the kill.

Or like a dog chasing a car?lol

[syborg tt]

I've spent most of my life playing with cars, trucks and mountain bikes. I even had a 3,000 dollar frame on a bike that i pedaled. Most of my friends used to say, oh look at that guy and his big dollar bike. What they didn't realize was at night or during the day i was alway's looking and thinking of way's to make money. When i was 16 i built my first truck. I worked two job each day so i could afford the things i wanted. I learned early that if you want something then you and only you are the one that can make it happen.

I commend people that build there dreams and make them happen. It's even nicer when the builder/owner is down to earth and doesn't flaunt it in everyone face. You have got to be one of the best car owner/builder i've ever seen on the net. You fit in like a regular guy and that is how it should be. It's not what you have or have not it's what you do with what you have.

Okay enough of my Doctor Suess rambling (just read one of his books to my kids) thanks for being one of the regular guy's and sharing with us your build and your idea's.

I just can't wait to see more pics of the build so i can get more idea's.

[Alan Johnson]

I just can't wait to see more pics of the build so i can get more idea's.[/QUOTE]

I will try and post any particular photos that anyone wants to see here. Thanks for all the comments from everyone, they are really appreciated.

[syborg tt]

all the stuff under the skin of the car would be nice

[F70t/a]

I just can't wait to see more pics of the build so i can get more idea's.

I will try and post any particular photos that anyone wants to see here. Thanks for all the comments from everyone, they are really appreciated.[/QUOTE]



I would like to see or know more info on the floor of the car. Also more info on why you went with a removable firewall. I think the idea is killer!!! :naughty:

[Travis B]

I will try and post any particular photos that anyone wants to see here. Thanks for all the comments from everyone, they are really appreciated.


The car appears to be sectioned up towards the front and added to in the rear.....do you have any bare metal shots of the car before you sent the front fenders off to be made out of carbon fiber....

[Alan Johnson]

[QUOTE=zrrigid]So that's for the carbon piece all the way across the back? That is understandable, there is alot of time in building the mold. Did they use foam or clay to shape the piece before they made the mold? Did they pull the mold right off the car?

The rear body panel was ready for paint. The surface was built up .020" using tooling wax and the mold was made from this surface. The finished part is just .030" and fit perfect. Doug Groh of 3 G Services in MI did all the carbon work. He is a member here but I don't know his user name.

[Alan Johnson]

Can you remove the floor also? God if I could only be bob for a week :hammer: :drive:
The main floors that go from the center tunnel to the side rails aren't removable. Everything else is removable. I will try and find some better photos.

[Alan Johnson]

I would like to see or know more info on the floor of the car. Also more info on why you went with a removable firewall. I think the idea is killer!!! :naughty:

I wanted the look of the machined firewall was the main reason. It really isn't a removable part once the car is assembled. The steel cowl of the car was modified for the aluminum firewall to bolt to. The firewall is not only a structural part of the body,but also ties the body to the roll cage where the front down tube is located.

[Van B]

The top of the door bar on the rollcage looks like it was cut out and there is another layer underneath it. I am wondering what the function of that is.

[Alan Johnson]

The car appears to be sectioned up towards the front and added to in the rear.....do you have any bare metal shots of the car before you sent the front fenders off to be made out of carbon fiber....


The car was sectioned from the doors forward. Zero at the quarters, 1 1/4" at the front of door and around 3 1/2" at the front. The lower body line on the doors and fenders was moved down to get the proportions right. The front wheel wells have been moved 4" forward and 1" up. The front 10" of the fenders have been pulled in to slim up the profile around the grill.

[Alan Johnson]

The car appears to be sectioned up towards the front and added to in the rear.....do you have any bare metal shots of the car before you sent the front fenders off to be made out of carbon fiber....

more bare metal photos

[Alan Johnson]

all the stuff under the skin of the car would be nice


Here are some construction shots of the headers, exhaust and engine accessories. BTW nice truck project syborg tt.

[Al Moreno]

Alan, with all the biuld picture, have you thought about have a " Build Book" published? I would buy one and I'm sure other would also.

[Travis B]

The car was sectioned from the doors forward. Zero at the quarters, 1 1/4" at the front of door and around 3 1/2" at the front. The lower body line on the doors and fenders was moved down to get the proportions right. The front wheel wells have been moved 4" forward and 1" up. The front 10" of the fenders have been pulled in to slim up the profile around the grill.

I knew it was sectioned just wasn't sure how much....thanks for the info alan. You know a car sits good when the tops of the fenders have to be clearanced for the tires lol.....thanks for the pics

Will the car be at the autorama this year?

[Steve Chryssos]

Un-freakin-believable! Coolest car ever!

[Bob Johnson]

Here are some construction shots of the headers, exhaust and engine accessories. BTW nice truck project syborg tt.
man keep up the questions..I'm learning abour my car..
Alan was so busy during the construction I've missed out on lots of the intricate stuff..does this site shut down around 10:30 EST of so. Seems like tfor 2 nights I can't get it to respond. Brand X Bobby Johnson2 my illigimate bast**d son,has been trying to post his pix and he doesn't try until late..he's a hard working guy..and he's experienced difficulty. Alan said he has had problenms late too..does this have a curfew?

[syborg tt]

Here are some construction shots of the headers, exhaust and engine accessories. BTW nice truck project syborg tt.

Thank you. I'm trying to build something different. Seems like no one builds trucks anymore.

Thanks again for the pictures. If you have a bunch of pics i can host them for you on sportmachines.com

[F70t/a]

This is better then porn!!!!! :smoke: Thanks a bunch for the info and pics Alan.

What's the tallest person that could fit in the cuda? Was it built more for bob's height?

How did you go about bolting up the frame to the body?

[TonyL]

does this site shut down around 10:30 EST of so. Seems like tfor 2 nights I can't get it to respond.

the site tends to run out of bandwidth at night. also, if ralph is in the admin CP fixing anything, the site is pretty screwed for the time he's on. It'll stop soon when we switch to the new format on the way bigger server...


Soon very soon...

[F70t/a]

The main floors that go from the center tunnel to the side rails aren't removable. Everything else is removable. I will try and find some better photos.


Cool, would you happen to have some rear floor shots? did you guys use a fuel cell?

[Ralph LoGrasso]

man keep up the questions..I'm learning abour my car..
Alan was so busy during the construction I've missed out on lots of the intricate stuff..does this site shut down around 10:30 EST of so. Seems like tfor 2 nights I can't get it to respond. Brand X Bobby Johnson2 my illigimate bast**d son,has been trying to post his pix and he doesn't try until late..he's a hard working guy..and he's experienced difficulty. Alan said he has had problenms late too..does this have a curfew?

Exactly what Tony ^ said. Unfortunately, we're at the absolute maximum for bandwidth usage on our shared server, and when the site gets really busy at night, it shuts down for about 15-20 minutes or so. We apologize for the inconvenience, as we realize it is very frustrating. We're going to be switching to our dedicated server right after the holidays, and that will solve the problem, and make the site much quicker. We've wanted to make the switch for a while now, but there have been innumerable software delays, and they’ve really held us up. Some of them are still not fixed, but we’re going to have to make some compromises and just make the switch.

As for your son, I think I fixed his account two nights ago; he should be able to post pictures, if he can get on the site when it's not too busy. If he's still having trouble, let me know.

[Bob Johnson]

Exactly what Tony ^ said. Unfortunately, we're at the absolute maximum for bandwidth usage on our shared server, and when the site gets really busy at night, it shuts down for about 15-20 minutes or so. We apologize for the inconvenience, as we realize it is very frustrating. We're going to be switching to our dedicated server right after the holidays, and that will solve the problem, and make the site much quicker. We've wanted to make the switch for a while now, but there have been innumerable software delays, and they’ve really held us up. Some of them are still not fixed, but we’re going to have to make some compromises and just make the switch.

As for your son, I think I fixed his account two nights ago; he should be able to post pictures, if he can get on the site when it's not too busy. If he's still having trouble, let me know.
I said he was my bas**rd son..In name only..make no bones about it, if he was really mine,he would have been one of those babies left on somebodies door step..or the dumpster..no really he's a good guy..we just kid each other constantly..he calls me da da..I would loved to have had a son..especially a hard working, knowledgeable, skilled one like him..he'll have some interesting photos of his car..worth your view..

[Ralph LoGrasso]

I said he was my bas**rd son..In name only..make no bones about it, if he was really mine,he would have been one of those babies left on somebodies door step..or the dumpster..no really he's a good guy..we just kid each other constantly..he calls me da da..I would loved to have had a son..especially a hard working, knowledgeable, skilled one like him..he'll have some interesting photos of his car..worth your view..

LOL, I understand; sorry for the confusion.

[Travis B]

Bob or Alan

I saw your post in the power tour thread about mufflers...just out of curiousity what does the cuda have on it for mufflers? Also what did the black camaro have on it for mufflers?

[Steve Chryssos]

Boy this thread's got some loooong legs. Almost 8,000 views too. That may be some kind of record.

[trapin]

This could almost be it's own 24 hour chat session.

[F70t/a]

I have about 14 people here at the office that check out this thread everyday for more pics and info on the cuda. That pic with bob next to the cuda drives the girls wild here!!!

[Bob Johnson]

Bob or Alan

I saw your post in the power tour thread about mufflers...just out of curiousity what does the cuda have on it for mufflers? Also what did the black camaro have on it for mufflers?
the Camaro had some 3"very short Flowmasters..all they did was agitate the sound..I liked it..The Cuda has 3.5"pipes..the mufflers are chambered..we didn't have room for a big muffler so Alan put the chambered exhaust on it

[Bob Johnson]

I have about 14 people here at the office that check out this thread everyday for more pics and info on the cuda. That pic with bob next to the cuda drives the girls wild here!!!
part you left out is the ratio of women to men there is 50 to 1..and half the one is gay..but I don't care..I'll take em anyway I can get em..my standards have dropped significantly in the last several years..

[Charley Lillard]

I'm not sure why Bob is telling us he is looking for a Gay man......

[Bill Howell]

I'm not sure why Bob is telling us he is looking for a Gay man......

:lol: :rotfl: :lol: :lmao:
You did leave yourself opened on that one Bob. It is great to have you around now, it gives Charlie someone else to pick on. :rotfl:

[Travis B]

the Camaro had some 3"very short Flowmasters..all they did was agitate the sound..I liked it..The Cuda has 3.5"pipes..the mufflers are chambered..we didn't have room for a big muffler so Alan put the chambered exhaust on it


I have heard of a couple of cars being built with chambered exhaust......did your cuda run at SEMA?

[Al Moreno]

part you left out is the ratio of women to men there is 50 to 1..and half the one is gay..but I don't care..I'll take em anyway I can get em..my standards have dropped significantly in the last several years..


:lol:

[Ralph LoGrasso]

Boy this thread's got some loooong legs. Almost 8,000 views too. That may be some kind of record.

I just checked the statistics, and this is now the most replied to thread on pro-touring.com. The most viewed is The SN65 mustang thread; it's got about 1k more views.

[Bob Johnson]

I have heard of a couple of cars being built with chambered exhaust......did your cuda run at SEMA?
no..we are finishing it now..suspension is coming out to be polished and anodized..have to put the Fast computer in..Nitrous..Finish stereo and some more details..you guys will be one of the first to hear it..we'll post it up right after we get it running

[Bob Johnson]

theresa girl

:bsjerk: Bob
don't call me slow hand for nuthin..but I got the touch that means so much

[zrrigid]

Nice work Alan. What kind of water pumps are those? Did you make the other interior billet pieces on your manual machine.

[Bob Johnson]

I'm not sure why Bob is telling us he is looking for a Gay man......
wishful thinking there Charlie..but that's not what I was saying..if those gals are diggin on ol Budda, pickins must be pretty slim..bad ratio of men to women, and most of the men are gay.you know.. like in California..where you are..you know how all the gays got out of Frisco so fast when they had the earthquake? They already had their sh*t packed....like the most used pick-up line in Charlies favorite bar..can I push in your stool? all BS aside, not saying there a lot of gays in California, but word is most will hold one in their mouth..till the swellin goes down..

[Travis B]

no..we are finishing it now..suspension is coming out to be polished and anodized..have to put the Fast computer in..Nitrous..Finish stereo and some more details..you guys will be one of the first to hear it..we'll post it up right after we get it running


cool....I don't know if you missed the question or not but will the car be at the autorama(detroit) this year?