Cuda at SEMA

[Travis B]

wishful thinking there Charlie..but that's not what I was saying..if those gals are diggin on ol Budda, pickins must be pretty slim..bad ratio of men to women, and most of the men are gay.you know.. like in California..where you are..you know how all the gays got out of Frisco so fast when they had the earthquake? They already had their sh*t packed....like the most used pick-up line in Charlies favorite bar..can I push in your stool? all BS aside, not saying there a lot of gays in California, but word is most will hold one in their mouth..till the swellin goes down..



:rotfl: :jump: :lol: :seizure: :lmao: :lmao: :lol:

bob that is to good :1st:

[Bob Johnson]

Nice work Alan. What kind of water pumps are those? Did you make the other interior billet pieces on your manual machine.
doesn't look like Alan is around..those are Stewart Electric Water Pumps..one for each bank..yes he made those on his mill...

[kennyd]

wishful thinking there Charlie..but that's not what I was saying..if those gals are diggin on ol Budda, pickins must be pretty slim..bad ratio of men to women, and most of the men are gay.you know.. like in California..where you are..you know how all the gays got out of Frisco so fast when they had the earthquake? They already had their sh*t packed....like the most used pick-up line in Charlies favorite bar..can I push in your stool? all BS aside, not saying there a lot of gays in California, but word is most will hold one in their mouth..till the swellin goes down..



this is the true bob , no affraid to say anything, anywhere ,anytime
got to love him

[Bob Johnson]

cool....I don't know if you missed the question or not but will the car be at the autorama(detroit) this year?
we're considering it..probably will..they wanted it at the Grand National Roadster Show in Pamona, but I'll never get it finished if I don't quit carrying it everywhere. It cost a lot to carry it to these shows..the promotors make the bucks..guys like us make the show..something isn't right here..If Alan, Angie, and I go up there, we'll be gone for 4 or 5 days counting travel time. Hotels, Food, Fuel, wear n tear..it's big time expensive..a guy that does one car every 10 years or so it isn't so bad..but we've had a bunch of cars we've campaigned in the last 10 years..I ain't Elvis, but I'm not Joe Sh*t the rag man either. you wanna me play..you gotta pay.....no tickey, no laundy

[Steve1968LS2]

I just checked the statistics, and this is now the most replied to thread on pro-touring.com. The most viewed is The SN65 mustang thread; it's got about 1k more views.

Thats cause this thread has something for everyone.. lol

[427]

I have heard this car will be at Maxton for the top speed shootout in April. Is this true? I will be on the line hoping to see it drive in anger!!


Kurt

[Bob Johnson]

I have heard this car will be at Maxton for the top speed shootout in April. Is this true? I will be on the line hoping to see it drive in anger!!


Kurt
our original plan was to be there..but our roll cage is not going to pass their inspection..they require 1 3/4 OD tube..ours is 1 1/2..also the carbon fiber insert I don't think will pass..even though we have a 1 1/4 tube pressed inside the 1 1/2 tube. We have provisions for the chute, fire system, etc. We are looking into another location to try this..We are trying to integrate a challenge on Bill Goldberg's Automaniac TV Show that will be held at The Year One Experience in April. We would like to challenge a Ferrari, Lambo, Porsche etc..and maybe another modified muscle car or two. No one would modify their Supercar to meet the rules at Maxton. The surface leaves a little to be desired at Maxton too. I like it there though..lots of fun..especially when some dude in a late model Corvette ran mid 180's on a max allowed speed of 150 since he had no roll bar,chute,fire system etc. Ol Turk lost it..Put the dude on the trailer, didn't give him his time slip, and escorted him off the track..Kinda of like doing a 100 ft. burnout down the main drag in Pigeon Forge

[Bill Howell]

..Kinda of like doing a 100 ft. burnout down the main drag in Pigeon Forge
There is a problem with this too, I thought it was just my golfcart that the cops hated here......lol

[zbugger]

wishful thinking there Charlie..but that's not what I was saying..if those gals are diggin on ol Budda, pickins must be pretty slim..bad ratio of men to women, and most of the men are gay.you know.. like in California..where you are..you know how all the gays got out of Frisco so fast when they had the earthquake? They already had their sh*t packed....like the most used pick-up line in Charlies favorite bar..can I push in your stool? all BS aside, not saying there a lot of gays in California, but word is most will hold one in their mouth..till the swellin goes down..
Now what exactly are you trying to say here?

Oh, and if the ratio of women to men was that good here, I'd have a girlfriend. But I don't. Then again, that may say something about me....... :idea: Can I borrow your car? :candle:

[kmcanally]

huhhhh ok...this threads taking some twists!

Is the Cuda engine that 900hp one that was in PHR story some time back?

[Bob Johnson]

There is a problem with this too, I thought it was just my golfcart that the cops hated here......lol
they hate anything with wheels..the locals don't want all the traffic..they forget all the bucks the car guys bring to the local economy..happened years ago in Daytona for bikeweek. Police cracked down on everyone so hard people stopped going..they relented after the city folk realized that bike week is the biggest money draw in Daytona..more than the Daytona 500 if you can believe that

[ProdigyCustoms]

the Camaro had some 3"very short Flowmasters..all they did was agitate the sound..I liked it..The Cuda has 3.5"pipes..the mufflers are chambered..we didn't have room for a big muffler so Alan put the chambered exhaust on it

Holy **** it is going to be loud. We ran about 54" per side of 3" chambered on Prodigy, I can only imagine what 3 1/2" will sound like. I can't wait. FYI, my DB meter goes to 120, prodigy is burying it at 30 feet, LOL! gets them out of their seats when it comes out of the trailer though!

Since you have not heard yours yet Bob, maybe you should here this........

https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11992

[Bob Johnson]

huhhhh ok...this threads taking some twists!

Is the Cuda engine that 900hp one that was in PHR story some time back?
The engine was on the cover of PHR about 6 or 7 months ago..but it was carbureted for the dyno test..Indy Cylinder is just now starting to embrace fuel injection,,we polished the block and heads..put a one off Hogan Fuel Injection system on it..got rid of the ugly ass distributor and wires running everywhere..polished and painted the valve covers that Alan doesn't like..but they acknowledge the contribution that PHR and Indy Cyl head made to this project..it would not have happened without them..it's people like Indy, Bilstein, Red Devil, ARP, Colorado Custom, Hyperco, Rockland Gear, Centerforce, BF Goodrich/Michelin, Comp cams/Fast, Holly/Earls, Barry Grant/Nitrous Works, PPG, Addco, Art Morrison and tons of others that make a project like this possible. Not only with parts, but with engineering support and specially made products for your application. Some of this specialty work would be so expensive, it would make a car like this even more expensive. I can't thank these companies enough for making my dream and vision a reality. Pay attention to the sponsor list on every article written on each car...these are the companies that make this sport interesting.. Sorry, but I can rarely learn from a budget guy buying a clunker and building it in his back yard..notice I said rarely..there's a few budget guys doing some really cool stuff, but it's a rarity for me. I do love the rat rod stuff though. My favorite next to the G stuff

[ProdigyCustoms]

they hate anything with wheels..the locals don't want all the traffic..they forget all the bucks the car guys bring to the local economy..happened years ago in Daytona for bikeweek. Police cracked down on everyone so hard people stopped going..they relented after the city folk realized that bike week is the biggest money draw in Daytona..more than the Daytona 500 if you can believe that

Oh. Wild bill and I know all about that Bike Week stuff. Bike rally's run a very close second to car events with ole Billy and I. Although right now we are both bikers without bikes. It's kind of a bonus to be only 40 miles away from Main Street.

[Charley Lillard]

"Oh. Wild bill and I know all about that Bike Week stuff. Bike rally's run a very close second to car events with ole Billy and I. Although right now we are both bikers without bikes. It's kind of a bonus to be only 40 miles away from Main Street."


AKA...The Schwinn Brothers..

[Bob Johnson]

Holy **** it is going to be loud. We ran about 54" per side of 3" chambered on Prodigy, I can only imagine what 3 1/2" will sound like. I can't wait. FYI, my DB meter goes to 120, prodigy is burying it at 30 feet, LOL! gets them out of their seats when it comes out of the trailer though!

Since you have not heard yours yet Bob, maybe you should here this........

https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11992
I pulled the 69 Camaro off the trailer at Goodguys show in Tallahassee in 02 and Jim Aust then with Goodguys, came a runnin on his golfcart along with a horde of other guys..It was poppin and a crackin as anyone that ever heard it knows. He immediately gave it the Goodguys Gazette Pick..It was one more bad ass sounding street car. The exhaust exited out the back behind the rear wheels so it wasn't that abusive inside. It never had a tendency to drone on the road the way some exhaust does. I sold my ramp truck at Tallahassee, got some friends to bring home some of my stuff, loaded my luggage in the Camaro and drove it home to the amazement of the guys there. We build cars that drive. I proved that when I drove the Long Haul on the Power Tour that year. Just cause it looks, sounds and runs fast doesn't mean you can't make it drive. The problem with the Cuda is the exhaust exits just behind the seats, in front of the rear wheels. But to old schoolers, this is what it's about. it's gotta sound like a hot rod. No hair dryers for me..I don't need em. onion head that I am..I just hope the fuel injection doesn't take the lope away at idle..gotta have that cam idle..puts lead in the old pencil..and that takes some doin these days

[Bob Johnson]

"Oh. Wild bill and I know all about that Bike Week stuff. Bike rally's run a very close second to car events with ole Billy and I. Although right now we are both bikers without bikes. It's kind of a bonus to be only 40 miles away from Main Street."


AKA...The Schwinn Brothers..
I'll bet ol Charlie goes down and gets him some of those water based Tatoos and puts on his wife beater T shirt, puts his wallet on a chain, gets him a 40 and strolls main Street with his leathers and boots on..goes to the Patch and challenges some hos to a slaw rasslin match. Charlie lets his hair down when mama ain't there supervisin...That slaw gets a little rank after a day in the hot sun..plus the fat byatches sweatin in it after sleeping in a tent for 2 or 3 days with no shower..the hair in the ol pits don't help much either. We could hold our 0 to 200 to 0 there at the ptch. That crossroad there has a straight for several miles in both directions. We used to run top end by there on the bikes..come by a screamin crowd with a friendly Hwy Patrol and his radar gun clocking you at 160 +..Mike Bruso was the king of the hill..he could run 180 or so..took a lot of others money did he and ol Floyd Twedell..these Hyabusa's and other burners could be running 230 or so now though. Those things are deadly. Unreal who'd have thought you could buy a stock production piece that would run in the 9's and run over 200 with the right rider..

[southernfriedcj]

Mr. Johnson, when the Cuda comes home will you do a viewing for the homeboys?

Jim

[Bob Johnson]

I pulled the 69 Camaro off the trailer at Goodguys show in Tallahassee in 02 and Jim Aust then with Goodguys, came a runnin on his golfcart along with a horde of other guys..It was poppin and a crackin as anyone that ever heard it knows. He immediately gave it the Goodguys Gazette Pick..It was one more bad ass sounding street car. The exhaust exited out the back behind the rear wheels so it wasn't that abusive inside. It never had a tendency to drone on the road the way some exhaust does. I sold my ramp truck at Tallahassee, got some friends to bring home some of my stuff, loaded my luggage in the Camaro and drove it home to the amazement of the guys there. We build cars that drive. I proved that when I drove the Long Haul on the Power Tour that year. Just cause it looks, sounds and runs fast doesn't mean you can't make it drive. The problem with the Cuda is the exhaust exits just behind the seats, in front of the rear wheels. But to old schoolers, this is what it's about. it's gotta sound like a hot rod. No hair dryers for me..I don't need em. onion head that I am..I just hope the fuel injection doesn't take the lope away at idle..gotta have that cam idle..puts lead in the old pencil..and that takes some doin these days
I just listened to the Prodigy..hadn't heard it before..pardon me for a few minutes..my monkey needs a spankin..actin up ..love that sound..better than my Camaro..did it have any muffins on it when that was recorded? if it did that'd one more grumpy SOB I love it..very entertaining

[Bob Johnson]

Mr. Johnson, when the Cuda comes home will you do a viewing for the homeboys?

Jim
you guys will be the first to see it..We should do something at Alan's before it gets here

[ProdigyCustoms]

That is 108", 54" per side of 3" chambered. Thank god it exits through the rear body panel. I can't wait to hear the Cuda. BTW, you were concerened the FI would take the cam away, Na, that is a fuel injected 540", the FI did NOTHING to disguise the cam, LOL!

I found some spiral type baffe inserts we are going to try (supposed to be worth 8DBs per side, I want to try 4) for cruising long distance, I'll let you know how they work out. Something tells me you are going to need them!

[Bob Johnson]

Mr. Johnson, when the Cuda comes home will you do a viewing for the homeboys?

Jim
You can call me Ray, you can call me Jay, you can call me jay Ray, or Ray Jay, or you can call me Ray Jay Jr. but you doesn't have to call me Mr. Johnson..just call me Bob..I'm old but i don't deserve much respect

[ProdigyCustoms]

"Oh. Wild bill and I know all about that Bike Week stuff. Bike rally's run a very close second to car events with ole Billy and I. Although right now we are both bikers without bikes. It's kind of a bonus to be only 40 miles away from Main Street."


AKA...The Schwinn Brothers..

Yup, typical, you guy's that have it looking down on us without, what's wrong with our bikes?

[Bob Johnson]

That is 108", 54" per side of 3" chambered. Thank god it exits through the rear body panel. I can't wait to hear the Cuda. BTW, you were concerened the FI would take the cam away, Na, that is a fuel injected 540", the FI did NOTHING to disguise the cam, LOL!

I found some spiral type baffe inserts we are going to try (supposed to be worth 8DBs per side, I want to try 4) for cruising long distance, I'll let you know how they work out. Something tells me you are going to need them!
she's 3 1/2 inches not three..I'm speaking about my exhaust.. sadly but pretty true on the other..if I'm on a blue vein throbber..compliments of the little purple wonder pill. . looks like a grub worm with a turtle neck sweater on

[ProdigyCustoms]

yeah, but you have the Cuda

[Bob Johnson]

huhhhh ok...this threads taking some twists!

Is the Cuda engine that 900hp one that was in PHR story some time back?
The engine was on the cover of PHR about 6 or 7 months ago..but it was carbureted for the dyno test..Indy Cylinder is just now starting to embrace fuel injection,,we polished the block and heads..put a one off Hogan Fuel Injection system on it..got rid of the ugly ass distributor and wires running everywhere..polished and painted the valve covers that Alan doesn't like..but they acknowledge the contribution that PHR and Indy Cyl head made to this project..it would not have happened without them..it's people like Indy, Bilstein, Red Devil, ARP, Colorado Custom, Hyperco, Rockland Gear, Centerforce, BF Goodrich/Michelin, Comp cams/Fast, Holly/Earls, Barry Grant/Nitrous Works, PPG, Addco, Art Morrison and tons of others that make a project like this possible. Not only with parts, but with engineering support and specially made products for your application. Some of this specialty work would be so expensive, it would make a car like this even more expensive. I can't thank these companies enough for making my dream and vision a reality. Pay attention to the sponsor list on every article written on each car...these are the companies that make this sport interesting.. Sorry, but I can rarely learn from a budget guy buying a clunker and building it in his back yard..notice I said rarely..there's a few budget guys doing some really cool stuff, but it's a rarity for me. I do love the rat rod stuff though. My favorite next to the G stuff

[Bob Johnson]

Yup, typical, you guy's that have it looking down on us without, what's wrong with our bikes?
I don't think it's the Schwinn that makes them look down on you..it's those training wheels..gotta get that vertigo taken care of..get your balance back and ditch those trainers..that training bra don't help matters either

[Bill Howell]

"Oh. Wild bill and I know all about that Bike Week stuff. Bike rally's run a very close second to car events with ole Billy and I. Although right now we are both bikers without bikes. It's kind of a bonus to be only 40 miles away from Main Street."


AKA...The Schwinn Brothers..

Who are you to talk? Anyone ever seen Charlie at a bike function? He is armed with a camera in one hand, beads in the other, taking pictures. And no, it is not BIKES he is snapping shots of.........He is a man on a mission......letting young women earn beads.........beadman.... :rotfl:

[Elusive R]

Bob,

First off, great car! Wow!

I have a question about the pedal pads - were those custom made or were you able to use something built for the Wilwood/Tilton pedals? I have Wilwood pedals in my Elky and I would love a set of pedal pads, especially for the brake. Was it a good bit of work to make them fit? I'm sure I can do it, just need the time...

Thanks,
Ryan

[Bob Johnson]

Bob,

First off, great car! Wow!

I have a question about the pedal pads - were those custom made or were you able to use something built for the Wilwood/Tilton pedals? I have Wilwood pedals in my Elky and I would love a set of pedal pads, especially for the brake. Was it a good bit of work to make them fit? I'm sure I can do it, just need the time...

Thanks,
Ryan
Alan made them..nothing's too hard for him..kinda like John Buttera..he has a vision of what he wants and he starts whittling..he's looking into a CNC..needs enough to keep it busy though..no problem making them fit since they were made to fit,,one off pieces

[Bob Johnson]

Who are you to talk? Anyone ever seen Charlie at a bike function? He is armed with a camera in one hand, beads in the other, taking pictures. And no, it is not BIKES he is snapping shots of.........He is a man on a mission......letting young women earn beads.........beadman.... :rotfl:
I just wish he'd start wearing blue jeans under those chaps..that flabby ass hanging off the sides of that banana seat only appeal to the limp wrists..

[Bob Johnson]

Who are you to talk? Anyone ever seen Charlie at a bike function? He is armed with a camera in one hand, beads in the other, taking pictures. And no, it is not BIKES he is snapping shots of.........He is a man on a mission......letting young women earn beads.........beadman.... :rotfl:
I went to one show with Chris Itoh..same deal.. Camera , artist paper, pencil, KY, all the stuff..but he was handing out ben-wah beads..now that's a twist..watching them try those babies on..even cooler when ol Chris gives them a yank and tries to jump start em..my kinda guy ,never a dull moment with him..

[427]

I am going there with a 1 5/8 tube cage, they tell me its ok.
Will the Year One race be only for the cars you invite, or can we bring ugly cars to run?


Kurt
our original plan was to be there..but our roll cage is not going to pass their inspection..they require 1 3/4 OD tube..ours is 1 1/2..also the carbon fiber insert I don't think will pass..even though we have a 1 1/4 tube pressed inside the 1 1/2 tube. We have provisions for the chute, fire system, etc. We are looking into another location to try this..We are trying to integrate a challenge on Bill Goldberg's Automaniac TV Show that will be held at The Year One Experience in April. We would like to challenge a Ferrari, Lambo, Porsche etc..and maybe another modified muscle car or two. No one would modify their Supercar to meet the rules at Maxton. The surface leaves a little to be desired at Maxton too. I like it there though..lots of fun..especially when some dude in a late model Corvette ran mid 180's on a max allowed speed of 150 since he had no roll bar,chute,fire system etc. Ol Turk lost it..Put the dude on the trailer, didn't give him his time slip, and escorted him off the track..Kinda of like doing a 100 ft. burnout down the main drag in Pigeon Forge

[Charley Lillard]

Ha !!!! Here comes Joe Nova.........Lookout Bob..You thought your Cuda was high dollar........

[F70t/a]

What size tires are on the 19x10 and 12x12 rims? I went to Alan Johnson's site and thats all i could find out. also what is the BS on them? :yum:

[Bob Johnson]

What size tires are on the 19x10 and 12x12 rims? I went to Alan Johnson's site and thats all i could find out. also what is the BS on them? :yum:
The tires on it are what comes on the new Porsche Carrera GT Supercar..295X30X19 front..335X30X20 rear....The are Michelin PS2's..best tire Michelin makes..rated 220MPH or so..

[Bob Johnson]

I am going there with a 1 5/8 tube cage, they tell me its ok.
Will the Year One race be only for the cars you invite, or can we bring ugly cars to run?


Kurt
I'll let Goldberg and Year One do the honors..don't bring an ugly duckling and kick my buttocks..

[Bob Johnson]

Ha !!!! Here comes Joe Nova.........Lookout Bob..You thought your Cuda was high dollar........
who's Joe Nova? he must be a real nut if going to spend more on a Nova than I spent on this Cuda..Money isn't the only thing that makes the car... as we all know..gotta spend it in the right direction...and have the right builder..Mike Stavesky said he had signed up a customer @ the PRI show and was gonna show me how it's done..I'm anxiously awaiting..but I ain't very skeered..Mike..you gonna put a pine dash in this one? You got to move up to Mahagony if your gonna whop the Cuda..

[justanova]

Alan, with all the biuld picture, have you thought about have a " Build Book" published? I would buy one and I'm sure other would also.


I would also like to see a "build book" to see more of the details that we would never see without one.

that is a completely kick ass cuda, can't wait to see more of it.

[Bill Howell]

they hate anything with wheels..the locals don't want all the traffic..they forget all the bucks the car guys bring to the local economy..


Not all us locals hate the traffic :)
You are correct, some do, but most do realize what the runs mean to the local ecomony. The ones that hate it, hate everything. They would rather still be in the dark ages, without electricity or running water. Some people you just can't reach.......
Anyway, come on up, I can always make a phone call it I need too. :ssst:

[autokraft]

Bob,

I saw your Cuda at Sema & PRI and both times while looking over the car for what seemed like forever I could not speak. Kinda like when you were young and had a scary nightmare, someone is chasing you and you could not get the words HELP out.

Unfrickenreal!!! My hats off to everyone involved in that build. That is one awesome Cuda that's all I got to say.


Kurt


www.autokraft.org (http://www.autokraft.org)

[Bob Johnson]

Bob,

I saw your Cuda at Sema & PRI and both times while looking over the car for what seemed like forever I could not speak. Kinda like when you were young and had a scary nightmare, someone is chasing you and you could not get the words HELP out.

Unfrickenreal!!! My hats off to everyone involved in that build. That is one awesome Cuda that's all I got to say.


Kurt


www.autokraft.org (http://www.autokraft.org)
that's all I want you to say..unless you want to contribute to the empty pocket fund..We appreciate the accolades..makes our efforts worthwhile to see car guys appreciate our work..

[Bob Johnson]

Not all us locals hate the traffic :)
You are correct, some do, but most do realize what the runs mean to the local ecomony. The ones that hate it, hate everything. They would rather still be in the dark ages, without electricity or running water. Some people you just can't reach.......
Anyway, come on up, I can always make a phone call it I need too. :ssst:
I read that the city council etc was trying to get rid of the car shows..I'll be up there several times next year..hope they don't succeed

[Bob Johnson]

I read that the city council etc was trying to get rid of the car shows..I'll be up there several times next year..hope they don't succeed
if you know "The Man",,I would like to do a big burnout to thrill the crowd but I don't want to have to spend the night in the tank and get my license pulled. If you wanna see me do my thing..pull that string..are you hooked up? get my drift?

[F70t/a]

Who made the Carbon Fiber parts for the cuda?

[Bill Howell]

if you know "The Man",,I would like to do a big burnout to thrill the crowd but I don't want to have to spend the night in the tank and get my license pulled. If you wanna see me do my thing..pull that string..are you hooked up? get my drift?

I don't think I am THAT hooked up.lol
I do however own 5 acres one block off the parkway with a nice parking lot, if you caught my drift.........
Be sure to let me know when you are coming, I have plenty of parking if you need it. In fact we had a protouring event here last year at the local drag strip and went on a nice cruise. (Look in the racing events section and watch the Pigeon Forge Event video.) We plan on another one in 06. Probably the weekend of the spring Grand Run. We will find you a place in line and a spot to do a private burnout if you attend.

[Bob Johnson]

Who made the Carbon Fiber parts for the cuda?
3 G Services..Detroit Michigan..w.734-947-9434 mob 734-262-4280 Doug Groh
He was introduced to us by Chris Itoh..Chris is the designer of the Cuda..his day job is Head designer @ Peterbilt Trucks..Chris knew him when Chris was working in Detroit. We looked at a lot of Carbon Fiber Work..3 G's work was the best. You won't see this quality Carbon very often. His business is slow as is everything in Detroit..He can get right on a project without any wait time..

[Bob Johnson]

I don't think I am THAT hooked up.lol
I do however own 5 acres one block off the parkway with a nice parking lot, if you caught my drift.........
Be sure to let me know when you are coming, I have plenty of parking if you need it. In fact we had a protouring event here last year at the local drag strip and went on a nice cruise. (Look in the racing events section and watch the Pigeon Forge Event video.) We plan on another one in 06. Probably the weekend of the spring Grand Run. We will find you a place in line and a spot to do a private burnout if you attend.
did you buy part of that farm a few years back..I used to park my big rig down @ that Barn by the road that parallels the main drag..down the road behind the Grand
he was a nice old gentleman

[Bill Howell]

No, that farm bought 22M, a bit rich for my blood. Yeah, Jake Thomas was a heck of a guy. Lived like a pauper, and then his land bought that kind of money. :pat:
I am across the parkway, about 1/2 mile south of the Grand, right behind the Whispering Pines condos. We always have several rigs of friends parked here during the shows.

[Bob Johnson]

No, that farm bought 22M, a bit rich for my blood. Yeah, Jake Thomas was a heck of a guy. Lived like a pauper, and then his land bought that kind of money. :pat:
I am across the parkway, about 1/2 mile south of the Grand, right behind the Whispering Pines condos. We always have several rigs of friends parked here during the shows.
I've been missing the Grand ..I think it's the Spring Charlotte that conflicts with it..got to buy a new trailer. Sold my big rig..to old to monkey around hauling 5 or 6 cars...it was fun for awhile, then it was hard work. I thought that farm was auctioned off in parcels..I don't understand that mentality..I want to go out broke..no need in making it if you're not going to enjoy it. My kids wish I had Jakes mentality.

[F70t/a]

Any pics of what the cudas trunk look like? :drive2:

[Bob Johnson]

Any pics of what the cudas trunk look like? :drive2:
that's not finished yet..you guys will be the first too see

[Alan Johnson]

This is better then porn!!!!! :smoke: Thanks a bunch for the info and pics Alan.

What's the tallest person that could fit in the cuda? Was it built more for bob's height?

How did you go about bolting up the frame to the body?

We had everyone in the shop to sit in the car during the build up. The tallest is 6'5" and fits ok, but it was much more comfortable for ones 6' and under. The inner rocker panels were fabbed from 14ga steel when they were off for the sectioning. At each end of the rocker a piece of 3/16" plate was welded, drilled and tapped for six 1/4" bolts to the rocker and one 5/8" bolt into the top of the frame rail. The mount is basically a piece of 3/16" angle with the sides gusseted. There's one of these at the front and rear of the rocker. The vary rear of the car is supported with 2" x 4" outriggers bolted to the frame. The rear body is reinforced with a top hat shaped crossmember in the floor and ties into the quarter panels and rear body bracing. The body has been braced with various sizes of tubing to give the body some strength when it isn't mounted to the frame. The body also is sandwiched between the front down tubes at the firewall and bolts to the rear main bar under the back glass.
ut bolting up the frame to the body?[/QUOTE]

[Alan Johnson]

Holy **** it is going to be loud. We ran about 54" per side of 3" chambered on Prodigy, I can only imagine what 3 1/2" will sound like. I can't wait. FYI, my DB meter goes to 120, prodigy is burying it at 30 feet, LOL! gets them out of their seats when it comes out of the trailer though!

Since you have not heard yours yet Bob, maybe you should here this........

https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11992

That sounds killer, I hope the Cuda sounds this good. A hot rod has got to make some noise. BTW there is a local shop here that has been building chambered mufflers for a long time. He will custom build what ever you need and can vary the sound from loud to mild.
www.rodshop.com (http://www.rodshop.com)

[Bob Johnson]

We had everyone in the shop to sit in the car during the build up. The tallest is 6'5" and fits ok, but it was much more comfortable for ones 6' and under. The inner rocker panels were fabbed from 14ga steel when they were off for the sectioning. At each end of the rocker a piece of 3/16" plate was welded, drilled and tapped for six 1/4" bolts to the rocker and one 5/8" bolt into the top of the frame rail. The mount is basically a piece of 3/16" angle with the sides gusseted. There's one of these at the front and rear of the rocker. The vary rear of the car is supported with 2" x 4" outriggers bolted to the frame. The rear body is reinforced with a top hat shaped crossmember in the floor and ties into the quarter panels and rear body bracing. The body has been braced with various sizes of tubing to give the body some strength when it isn't mounted to the frame. The body also is sandwiched between the front down tubes at the firewall and bolts to the rear main bar under the back glass.
ut bolting up the frame to the body?[/QUOTE]
F70t/a.... is that little icon smoking a cigarette supposedly you... after you got off on the Cuda?

[F70t/a]

lol bob :ssst:

[F70t/a]

We had everyone in the shop to sit in the car during the build up. The tallest is 6'5" and fits ok, but it was much more comfortable for ones 6' and under. The inner rocker panels were fabbed from 14ga steel when they were off for the sectioning. At each end of the rocker a piece of 3/16" plate was welded, drilled and tapped for six 1/4" bolts to the rocker and one 5/8" bolt into the top of the frame rail. The mount is basically a piece of 3/16" angle with the sides gusseted. There's one of these at the front and rear of the rocker. The vary rear of the car is supported with 2" x 4" outriggers bolted to the frame. The rear body is reinforced with a top hat shaped crossmember in the floor and ties into the quarter panels and rear body bracing. The body has been braced with various sizes of tubing to give the body some strength when it isn't mounted to the frame. The body also is sandwiched between the front down tubes at the firewall and bolts to the rear main bar under the back glass.
ut bolting up the frame to the body?[/QUOTE]

any pics? how long would you say it would take to unbolt the body from the frame?

[Bob Johnson]

I'm a Johnny come lately guy to this site, and in fact, to computers period..still listening to doo-wop on my 8 track...don't know many of you guys or your cars..who are the big dog car owners on this site?? I mean guys that can seriously challenge that 66 Vette that Hot Rod has seemingly put up as their horse in the Pro-Touring Challenge..and of the ones that could, which one's are?

[REAL Bob Johnson]

Hot Rod says Pro touring WILL die like Pro-street? Sounds like something needs to be proved here. Who is in? Mabye at road atl. in april ?I hope to be there with bells on right in front of Bobs Cuda in turn 3

[Bob Johnson]

Hot Rod says Pro touring WILL die like Pro-street? Sounds like something needs to be proved here. Who is in? Mabye at road atl. in april ?I hope to be there with bells on right in front of Bobs Cuda in turn 3
with emphasis on the word HOPE..reality is NO in the front of hope..What are you doing cage wise in your car? We've got to see what Road Atlanta is gonna require to run hard on that track. Did Hot Rod ever admit Pro Street was indeed dead? They were beating that Pro-Street drum long after it was dead in my eyes..I sell these cars and I know how hard it has been for at least 5 years to sell a pro-street car. I guess the Mickey Thompson guys don't think so with those big diameter wheel pro street looking tires they have now. What did you think of Hot Rods horse in this race?(66 vette in latest Hot Rod)...You skeered? You saw what Stielow said about that normally aspirated motor being too much..what do you think he would say about that twin turbo fat block of yurn? I don't want my Cuda anywhere near that monster when it comes on boost out of one of those turns..riding in that thing will be like the whirlagig I had when i was a kid..You'll be so dizzy when that thing stops spinnin you won't be able to stand up for 5 minutes..You's one wild and crazy guy

[syborg tt]

Your Firewall.

Okay after looking at it i've decided to rip mine off for the 3rd time and go down the same/similar road you did. Can you guy's give me a couple pointers from what you've learned building your firewall

From all the pics It Looks like
1. it about 1.5" thick with .75" milled out of it
2. Firewall Frame is 1" Square Tube

3. How is it mounted ? screw & Sealer

Any Advise you can give me would be grerat.

I already have a place that is will and able to water jet cut me the basic piece and another place that can mill it for me all we would have to do is make the structuire to mount it to my cab.

thanks in advance

[Steve Chryssos]

I'm a Johnny come lately guy to this site...don't know many of you guys or your cars..who are the big dog car owners on this site??

Here's a good start Bob. This car should keep you busy for a while. John is an awesome guy too. I'll find you some more for you to look at.

http://www.iimuchfabrication.com/

There will be a test.
/Steevo

[F70t/a]

Your Firewall.

Okay after looking at it i've decided to rip mine off for the 3rd time and go down the same/similar road you did. Can you guy's give me a couple pointers from what you've learned building your firewall

From all the pics It Looks like
1. it about 1.5" thick with .75" milled out of it
2. Firewall Frame is 1" Square Tube

3. How is it mounted ? screw & Sealer

Any Advise you can give me would be grerat.

I already have a place that is will and able to water jet cut me the basic piece and another place that can mill it for me all we would have to do is make the structuire to mount it to my cab.

thanks in advance


I'm also a jocker of the firewall. :smoke:

[Bill Howell]

Here's a good start Bob. This car should keep you busy for a while. John is an awesome guy too. I'll find you some more for you to look at.

http://www.iimuchfabrication.com/

There will be a test.
/Steevo

Also Bob, be aware, Streefytr68-Steve is no novice himself. Owns probably the best known, proven street fighter in the business.

[Travis B]

correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Mark(mean69) have pretty killer g-machine also????

[Bill Howell]

Vanzuuk1 is another that comes to mind!
How about Dennis68 and his elky. I know he aint skerred.
Mr.Pozzi? Camaroboy69?
I am talking true streetfighters, not posers like myself :here!:
Help me here everyone, I know we have a lot that go to track days fairly regularly on the west coast. I just fear the event being on the east coast.

[vanzuuk1]

Steve owns the original streetfighter , he even brought the term to the automotive world.

My car is not a true streetfighter yet, more of a "street instigator", or a "street troublemaker".

[Bill Howell]

I've seen the video, you are in.lol

[vanzuuk1]

Thanks Bill , but I would not mess with those guys-

Dave pozzi has a lot of track miles under his belt, hes the obi-wan-kenobi of monterey.

Dennis and camaroboy have primered cars, primered cars always run fast at the track. :scared:

[vanzuuk1]

And I wouldnt run against Jeff Shwartz , I could not handle getting smoked by a caddy with a cd player! :cool:

[Bill Howell]

And I wouldnt run against Jeff Shwartz , I could not handle getting smoked by a caddy with a cd player! :cool:

:ssst: HE was my secret weapon.......lol

[Bob Johnson]

Your Firewall.

Okay after looking at it i've decided to rip mine off for the 3rd time and go down the same/similar road you did. Can you guy's give me a couple pointers from what you've learned building your firewall

From all the pics It Looks like
1. it about 1.5" thick with .75" milled out of it
2. Firewall Frame is 1" Square Tube

3. How is it mounted ? screw & Sealer

Any Advise you can give me would be grerat.

I already have a place that is will and able to water jet cut me the basic piece and another place that can mill it for me all we would have to do is make the structuire to mount it to my cab.

thanks in advance
I'll see that Alan sees this..he has pictures of the firewall while he was milling it..I'm not sure he didn't already post it on this site..he will remember..we'll get it to you either way.

[Bob Johnson]

Here's a good start Bob. This car should keep you busy for a while. John is an awesome guy too. I'll find you some more for you to look at.

http://www.iimuchfabrication.com/

There will be a test.
/Steevo
Nuts look pretty damn fuzzy to me..Is he accepting the Hot Rod Challenge?

[Bill Howell]

Not speaking for John, but I am sure he will if he gets the engine back and installed before the suggested event.

[Bob Johnson]

Also Bob, be aware, Streefytr68-Steve is no novice himself. Owns probably the best known, proven street fighter in the business.
can't be a poseur if he sits by the HUNKEY MAN!! But can he afford to show up what may become his boss one of these days..

[Bob Johnson]

correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Mark(mean69) have pretty killer g-machine also????
gonna be helpful to know not only who they are, what car they have,last but not least, WHERE they are. I like the idea one of your posters said about riding the Amtrack autotrain down from New Jersey to Florida for the Power Tour. The rate he quoted was super cheap..Do they have some west to east Auto trains? This needs to be checked out

[Bill Howell]

can't be a poseur if he sits by the HUNKEY MAN!! But can he afford to show up what may become his boss one of these days..
:hmm:
I think you are talking about the wrong Steve.
Steve Rupp aka.Steve68LS2 works for PHR
Steve-o (Chryssos) aka.streetfyter68 is in New York.

[Bill Howell]

I like the idea one of your posters said about riding the Amtrack autotrain down from New Jersey to Florida for the Power Tour.

Did you see where the one that sat on the track last week near Savannah? It was headed from Orlando to NYC. The riders sat in the train, on a track in the middle of nowhere for 22 hours waiting for the track to be cleared from a previous wreck somewhere in south Ga.

[Bob Johnson]

And I wouldnt run against Jeff Shwartz , I could not handle getting smoked by a caddy with a cd player! :cool:
maybe we could match the Caddy guy with the guy on here that has the pro-tour Town Car..he was asking on an old posting how he could get sponsorship..I was gonna tell him it would help to change your handle. I don't know if i was a vendor and a guy asked for sponsorship and his user name was pro tour Lincoln Town Car, how I would respond... I guess he could double up and do weddings and livery service..kinda like Queen Latifa in that taxi cab movie

[Bob Johnson]

:hmm:
I think you are talking about the wrong Steve.
Steve Rupp aka.Steve68LS2 works for PHR
Steve-o (Chryssos) aka.streetfyter68 is in New York.
sorry...got to figure out who's who

[Alan Johnson]

Your Firewall.

Okay after looking at it i've decided to rip mine off for the 3rd time and go down the same/similar road you did. Can you guy's give me a couple pointers from what you've learned building your firewall

From all the pics It Looks like
1. it about 1.5" thick with .75" milled out of it
2. Firewall Frame is 1" Square Tube

3. How is it mounted ? screw & Sealer

Any Advise you can give me would be grerat.

I already have a place that is will and able to water jet cut me the basic piece and another place that can mill it for me all we would have to do is make the structuire to mount it to my cab.

thanks in advance

The firewall structure is .750x.125 angle around the perimeter with .750x16ga tube for bracing. The angel is plug welded every 2" to the sheet metal and drilled every 3" to bolt to the firewall. The aluminum firewall is .750 also with most of the recessed area .375 deep, some areas are machined deeper for clearance. The aluminum is blind tapped from the rear to bolt in with 1/4-20 fasteners. Send me a PM and I will get you any other info or photos you might need.

[Bob Johnson]

Did you see where the one that sat on the track last week near Savannah? It was headed from Orlando to NYC. The riders sat in the train, on a track in the middle of nowhere for 22 hours waiting for the track to be cleared from a previous wreck somewhere in south Ga.
I saw that..bunch of sisters whining on the TV. Take heed..bring lots of reading, snacks, sleeping pills, etc. Don't they have bars, and dining cars on these trains. Can you bring drinks etc onboard? Could you get to your car in the back and have some stuff stashed in it for the Power Tour.

[1970cuda]

jeff finally upgraded the 8 track player to a cd player?
:headbang:

[vanzuuk1]

I was joking about the cd player, but he probably has one.

[parsonsj]

Not speaking for John, but I am sure he will if he gets the engine back and installed before the suggested event.Yeah, I'm sitting here in Maryland with a roller. I need my engine and I'm there. The car might might not have an interior, but ...


Nuts look pretty damn fuzzy to me..Huh? Is that some sort of southern expression? Bill, can you translate?


Is he accepting the Hot Rod challenge?I'm not going to be manipulated into doing anything I don't want to do. On the other hand, I'd already put that date on my calendar, and if things fall right, see above.

jp

[Bob Johnson]

Both Bob Johnson's, The real deal and his Bast*rd son aka The real Bob Johnson, are very interested in this challenge Hot Rod is proposing ( or posing)? They sure got our attention. The imitator is impressing me..he's going to put ABS and TRACTION CONTROL on that bad as* Camaro of his. Guess he won't be imitating my whirlagig I had as a kid when he comes out of the turns. I just want to see what that traction control does when the 1,300/1,400 horses get unbridled. I've ridden in some late Mercedes 600 Twin Turbo modified cars with the traction control on...they work but they are plenty upset..like a man on a fuzzy tree

[Bob Johnson]

Yeah, I'm sitting here in Maryland with a roller. I need my engine and I'm there. The car might might not have an interior, but ...

Huh? Is that some sort of southern expression? Bill, can you translate?

I'm not going to be manipulated into doing anything I don't want to do. On the other hand, I'd already put that date on my calendar, and if things fall right, see above.

jp
Fuzzy nuts are tantamount to Big Balls..or having a lot of stuff..or being a stud..being bad as* ..loaded for bear or whatever

[Bill Howell]

maybe we could match the Caddy guy with the guy on here that has the pro-tour Town Car..he was asking on an old posting how he could get sponsorship..I was gonna tell him it would help to change your handle. I don't know if i was a vendor and a guy asked for sponsorship and his user name was pro tour Lincoln Town Car, how I would respond... I guess he could double up and do weddings and livery service..kinda like Queen Latifa in that taxi cab movie

You probably already know Jeff
http://www.schwartzperformance.com/
trust me, not many want to tangle with that caddy. It is not your fathers caddy.


As far as Tim's Town Car goes, I have not seen it, so I am not commenting. He might have something for us too when he get finished, you never know. I learned a long time ago to never underestimate the competition. Two things is for sure, he could always haul his slicks in the trunk for the shootout wars. Also with his past history, I am sure he will have the best sound system on the block. However, that may religate him to Poser status with me. :cheers:

[parsonsj]

Cool. Got it.

I will admit to putting more pressure on my engine guys to see if I can pull this off. As I said elsewhere, I'm gonna need some chassis tuning help when/if I make it.

jp

[parsonsj]

trust me, not many want to tangle with that caddy. It is not your father's caddy.

Yeah, we gotta get him to bring the Caddy, and not the Ultima.

jp

[Bill Howell]

Oh, sorry John, I keep forgetting not everyone here speaks fluent Georgia slang. lol
I read it, and did not think anything about it, I knew what he meant and knew I agreed. But then, I have seen llmuch in person...... :cheers:

[Doug Cooper]

Fuzzy nuts are tantamount to Big Balls..or having a lot of stuff..or being a stud..being bad as* ..loaded for bear or whatever


Just reading the banter,
Bob's got the car to back it up!!!
I think he welcomes all challengers!!!!!!!!! Bob put Johnsons Hot Rod Shop in one more top catagory besides fit, form, function and finish add FAST!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bill Howell]

I just want to see what that traction control does when the 1,300/1,400 horses get unbridled. I've ridden in some late Mercedes 600 Twin Turbo modified cars with the traction control on...they work but they are plenty upset

I was thinking the same thing. I have not been in a Mercedes, but have been in a car lately that ASR really meant "slowing tire spin". I doubt you will have 1400 horses at a full head of steam and find a traction control wanting to do much briddling. May imped the spin but no way it is going to stop it. It is hard to "control" those turbos..... :dunno:

[Bob Johnson]

Yeah, we gotta get him to bring the Caddy, and not the Ultima.

jp
I just don't understand the mind set of one wanting to accelerate,decelerate,go around a curve with anymore weight than is absolutely necessary..Was it his fathers Caddy? Get his first piece in one? I see those guys in that Hot Rod Magazine fastest street car shootout trying to compete with a 3800#Chevelle,and wildly enough, he won one and was also competitive last year, and even wilder trying it with a big as* Impala..give me the Datson or something light. I have a 72 240 Z with a ZZ4,,6 speed Vette trans, and Dana 44 Vette rear..it goes like stink, flies around curves, doesn't break parts and is a blast to drive, and looks cool with the G Nose front..

[parsonsj]

I just don't understand the mind set of one wanting to accelerate,decelerate,go around a curve with anymore weight than is absolutely necessaryThat's a reasonable question. It comes down to the intent of the hobby: is one trying to get the best possible times? Or is one trying to do the best with a certain car or car-type?

If Jeff brings his Ultima, that car will likely destroy the rest of us: it weighs 2200 lbs (I think) makes 500+ hp and has huge rubber and brakes. It seems closer to an Indy car than a street car. No doubt it will put down the best lap times of any of the cars I know about. It's an awesome car with performance in line with its looks and underlying engineering.

I want him to bring the Caddy, because it performs way better than it should, and I think that's cooler, somehow. Katz has a 65 Buick that has the same effect on me. Maybe that's just me.

jp

[Bob Johnson]

That's a reasonable question. It comes down to the intent of the hobby: is one trying to get the best possible times? Or is one trying to do the best with a certain car or car-type?

If Jeff brings his Ultima, that car will likely destroy the rest of us: it weighs 2200 lbs (I think) makes 500+ hp and has huge rubber and brakes. It seems closer to an Indy car than a street car. No doubt it will put down the best lap times of any of the cars I know about. It's an awesome car with performance in line with its looks and underlying engineering.

I want him to bring the Caddy, because it performs way better than it should, and I think that's cooler, somehow. Katz has a 65 Buick that has the same effect on me. Maybe that's just me.

jp
maybe he likes being on both ends of the spectrum..lightweight and super heavyweight champ..different strokes..what makes the world go round..was he the guy with the 77 Coupe de Ville in the magazines with an Olds motor a few years ago? Tell him not to bring it..if he kicked my Cuda's ass, I'd have to commit Hari Kari with a dull sword

[parsonsj]

was he the guy with the 77 Coupe de Ville in the magazines with an Olds motor a few years ago? Tell him not to bring it..if he kicked my Cuda's ass, I'd have to commit Hari Kari with a dull swordYes, except it's an 82 Fleetwood and uses a Caddy (500 ci) motor. As far as I remember, it has always had a Caddy motor. Here's a link. (http://www.schwartzperformance.com/cadillac.htm)

jp

[Bob Johnson]

Yes, except it's an 82 Fleetwood and uses a Caddy (500 ci) motor. As far as I remember, it has always had a Caddy motor. Here's a link. (http://www.schwartzperformance.com/cadillac.htm)

jp
Fleetwood hot damn..why not use a 120" stretch limo..wanna be a bear..be a grizzley..there was a coupe de ville a few years ago that one of the magazines had in it..I thought that was crazy but a Fleetwood..now that is wild..has he got a diamond in the back, sunroof top..does he have the gangster lean when he's competing with it? gotta have that TV antannea on the top..set it where it acts like a spoiler..I love it..great for shotgun weddings..quick getaway..

[CAMAROBOY69]

Vanzuuk1 is another that comes to mind!
How about Dennis68 and his elky. I know he aint skerred.
Mr.Pozzi? Camaroboy69?
I am talking true streetfighters, not posers like myself :here!:
Help me here everyone, I know we have a lot that go to track days fairly regularly on the west coast. I just fear the event being on the east coast.
Wow thanks for the props Bill. I really appreciate that as a compliment. I think you should take back what you said about yourself. I dont think anyone thinks your a poser. You have an incredible car AND you drive it. Thats something to be extremely proud of despite what anyone sais.
Yes I drive the heck out of mine, race it, beat the heck out of it but I could only dream of having one as nice as yours. When you quit driving it you will be a poser. :lmao:

[CAMAROBOY69]

Thanks Bill , but I would not mess with those guys-

Dave pozzi has a lot of track miles under his belt, hes the obi-wan-kenobi of monterey.

Dennis and camaroboy have primered cars, primered cars always run fast at the track. :scared:
Thats why I havent painted mine yet. When I do I will lose. :poke: :lmao:

[syborg tt]

I'll see that Alan sees this..he has pictures of the firewall while he was milling it..I'm not sure he didn't already post it on this site..he will remember..we'll get it to you either way.

thank you i truely appreciate your help.



The firewall structure is .750x.125 angle around the perimeter with .750x16ga tube for bracing. The angel is plug welded every 2" to the sheet metal and drilled every 3" to bolt to the firewall. The aluminum firewall is .750 also with most of the recessed area .375 deep, some areas are machined deeper for clearance. The aluminum is blind tapped from the rear to bolt in with 1/4-20 fasteners. Send me a PM and I will get you any other info or photos you might need.

yep this is the info that i'm looking for. I also sent you a Private Message

[Steve Chryssos]

Fleetwood hot damn..why not use a 120" stretch limo..wanna be a bear..be a grizzley..there was a coupe de ville a few years ago that one of the magazines had in it..I thought that was crazy but a Fleetwood..now that is wild..has he got a diamond in the back, sunroof top..does he have the gangster lean when he's competing with it? gotta have that TV antannea on the top..set it where it acts like a spoiler..I love it..great for shotgun weddings..quick getaway..


Uhh...yeah. Like I said school's in. That land yacht (Cadillac Attack) won Real Street Eliminator a few years back. From what I heard it's a real blast to watch that car negotiate turns and cones. Land Ho! Comin About!! It was pretty much built as a smack in the face to the rest of us pony car types and it lives up to that ideal. Spend some time at Jeff's website Jeff's shop (http://www.schwartzperformance.com/featuredprojects.htm ) and you'll see that Jeff has a knack for turning alternative platforms into quality rides.
Jeff also did most of the work on Poison Dart which is another excellent candidate for the Hot Rod challenge. Imagine Motorsports PAID to sponsor Power Tour last year and still, Poison Dart did not get any love in Hot Rod. Poison Dart can be categorized as too "over-the-top" or too pretty to run hard. But I spent a bunch of time with Rich Weiss at SEMA. He's a cool dude who is itchin for the opportunity to beat on his ride now that the show circuit crap is over. If it get's scuffed, he'll just fix it. It's only money.
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So I guess the lesson here, Bob, is that while you own the coolest Pro-Touring car of all time (in my opinion), it may very well get spanked at the challenge by much more ordinary cars that have already been sorted out. And that's okay. At best, you should expect to use the challenge to dial in your chassis. If you're going there to kick ass, you'd better hit another track or two first.

[Damn True]

The Dart is really bitchin. Honestly over the last few months the most interesting cars Ive seen in the mags and the net have not been Camaros. PHR has had a string of very interesting Mustangs over the last few months, the poision dart, Castellana's Chevelle etc.

[parsonsj]

you should expect to use the challenge to dial in your chassisIf I make the event, I'm nearly certain to be tightening the last few bolts waiting in line to start. I'll be there to have some tuning fun.

jp

[Travis B]

bob who was the driver going to be on your car?

[Steve Chryssos]

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2006/01/magers5-1.jpg
Here's the Lateral Dynamics car. Based out of the San Diego area. It still has most of its stock floorpan, so it's not as radical as the full chassis/chanelled body cars that seem to be taking over the top ranks. But that doesn't mean it's any less capable. PLUS this car has tape on the headlights, so it MUST be fast. Until I see otherwise, I will maintain that well built unibody/rollcage cars are just as grippy. Here the rest of the pix of Mark's car.
http://www.lateral-g.net/members/magers
Mark just quit the high paying day job as a rocket scientist to pursue his dream with Lateral Dynamics. It's first product is a killer 3 link rear suspension for muscle cars. I'm sure he's up to his ass in new company blues, so he may not make the Challenge. But I hope he does. It would be a great way to promote his business.

[Steve Chryssos]

And here's one of my current favorites. Part street rod/part street fighter. He doesn't have any room for a clutch pedal, so Chris will be using one of my paddle shifters with a 4L80E. Paints custom Harley's for a living in Oregon. Looks rough, but Chris works fast.
34 cab with a carbon fiber 32 shell, black primer, 4 whl independent supension, Z06 18" wheels, 358 SBC 2100lbs!!
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[Damn True]

Oh man the deuce is sick. Flat black please paint it flat black!

I wonder if you can get KDWs with a whitewall?

[CAMAROBOY69]

You will have to keep us updated on that 32. Its going to be a mean ride for sure. At only 2100lbs it wouldnt take much at all to make you crap yourself on a track. Serious G's there. :drive2:

[Steve Chryssos]

Oh man the deuce is sick. Flat black please paint it flat black!

Yup. Flat black. Beautiful in it's own mean and nasty way. Primer means it'll get done even sooner. Oh, and I wasn't clear. It's a pickup. Sectioned and chanelled on custom 2x3 .120 rails (no wussy duece rails) with a 1-5/8 cage and custom fabb'd suspension arms.

[Travis B]

chris is a regular at lat-g goes by (race rodz)

[Steve Chryssos]

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This one's well known. RSE '03 finalist. Featured in Hot Rod, Car Craft, and PHR. Recently sold. Not sure who has it now, but it's a perfect example of how pro-touring cars get used--and used hard. I don't know Chris Kerr, so maybe someone elce can step in. I'm pretty sure he's building cars, so there should be more where this came from.
http://carcraft.com/featuredvehicles/116_0404_cam/

I'm excited about this event, but it won't change a thing. There will always be uninformed benchracers asking stupid questions like: "Um, like duh, when are you guys gonna put those P-T cars to some use. Put up or shut up" The next time it happens, I will calmy and politely suggest that the individual put one hand on each cheek and push off as hard as possible.
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Beyond that, I will show up at this challenge just cause it's cool.

[Bill Howell]

Wow thanks for the props Bill. I really appreciate that as a compliment. I think you should take back what you said about yourself. I dont think anyone thinks your a poser. You have an incredible car AND you drive it. Thats something to be extremely proud of despite what anyone sais.
Yes I drive the heck out of mine, race it, beat the heck out of it but I could only dream of having one as nice as yours. When you quit driving it you will be a poser. :lmao:

I call it like I see it Adam. You do with your car what this sport is all about. I have watched your video, cool stuff. I feel so many members here think their cars have to be perfect before they can enjoy them, however the problem with that is they never actually get to enjoy their car, cause they never finish them, kinda of a catch 22. You on the other hand, get out and enjoy your car, painted or not,perfect or not.
I may just paint my next project flat black, so it will be easier to match when I skin it up a bit-lol.
No, in the true sence of the word, my car will never be a street fighter or track King, however, you are right, it is a "TOURER" and will be toured a bunch this year. I know Frank has more paint, I have seen his paint booth. :twothumbs

[Bill Howell]

I'm a Johnny come lately guy to this site, and in fact, to computers period..still listening to doo-wop on my 8 track...don't know many of you guys or your cars..who are the big dog car owners on this site?? I mean guys that can seriously challenge that 66 Vette that Hot Rod has seemingly put up as their horse in the Pro-Touring Challenge..and of the ones that could, which one's are?

As you can see Bob, there are plenty players here. Hopefully with the upcoming Year One event, some of the newer car will participate. There are so many different cars, and types of cars that while 1st gens are the most popular, we are well represented across the board. Personally I want to see the Poison Dart out there, shooting arrows..... :3gears:

[Damn True]

Gawd I wish I had mine done.


(I wish I was started)

[Mean 69]

Katz, Matt and myself have talked about this quite a bit, and may plan on attending depending on "things." By then we should have the new front on the 69, and we will also have completed the 68 Satellite. I think the 69 is a bit underpowered for long tracks (less than 600 crank HP), relative to some other cars, and the 68 Sat' is just plain heavy and there ain't squat we can do about it, but I will still put our suspension and tuning up against anyone else's. I'd honestly rather support PHR, and the West Coast, because despite some of my recent skepticism, they really do care about testing performance, and they really are the best supporters of this segment of the hobby.

If they do the event out here in California, we will definitely be in. If it is at Mid-Ohio, and Mark Steilow and his boss, John Heinricy show up to drive, well, that is an unfair advantage (John just won his 9th SCCA runoff title in A-sedan, and he served as a hot shoe for the Speed GT race this past year in the Caddie, and won it if memory serves). Both of those guys can drive circles around me, and I am not afraid to admit it. I will say though, many of us have threatened to pull something together like this, and I support it 100%. If we CAN be there, we WILL be there.

Mark

[vanzuuk1]

A) The caddy is cool because its such a sidestep from the norm, plus its done well and Jeff can drive.

B) Steevo, I am a proud member of the "tape on the headlights" club, so beware!

C) the ultima is a weapon, a gtp car with turn signals.

D) True, you can ride shotgun in my car if you ever come out east.

E) If anyone wants to meet at an autocross in the new york/tristate area, I am in. The track day wont happen for me until late summer, most likely. I would share a trailer to the year one thing, however.

F) this should just be a perpetual thread , the topic will always pop up.

[Bill Howell]

Let's not forget this member's toy, or should I say toys! He has several that would be stout competition, in fact, they ARE stout competition regularly!
https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10688&highlight=lexus

Oh, and what about Norm and his G-body, he ain't skerred at all....

[Bob Johnson]

Yes, except it's an 82 Fleetwood and uses a Caddy (500 ci) motor. As far as I remember, it has always had a Caddy motor. Here's a link. (http://www.schwartzperformance.com/cadillac.htm)

jp
my mistake..I completely forgot they made a Fleetwood Brother ham coupe..1.02 on a skid pan..11's in qtr with 3 speed auto and a 2 something rear..and a measly 10 bolt handling all that torque and Wt. that is amazing..I think this is the car I saw a few years ago, but I remember he had an Olds in it which made it even weirder..wonder what it would do if you took that heavy body and plush interior off and put a light body on it.

[Bob Johnson]

Uhh...yeah. Like I said school's in. That land yacht (Cadillac Attack) won Real Street Eliminator a few years back. From what I heard it's a real blast to watch that car negotiate turns and cones. Land Ho! Comin About!! It was pretty much built as a smack in the face to the rest of us pony car types and it lives up to that ideal. Spend some time at Jeff's website Jeff's shop (http://www.schwartzperformance.com/featuredprojects.htm ) and you'll see that Jeff has a knack for turning alternative platforms into quality rides.
Jeff also did most of the work on Poison Dart which is another excellent candidate for the Hot Rod challenge. Imagine Motorsports PAID to sponsor Power Tour last year and still, Poison Dart did not get any love in Hot Rod. Poison Dart can be categorized as too "over-the-top" or too pretty to run hard. But I spent a bunch of time with Rich Weiss at SEMA. He's a cool dude who is itchin for the opportunity to beat on his ride now that the show circuit crap is over. If it get's scuffed, he'll just fix it. It's only money.
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So I guess the lesson here, Bob, is that while you own the coolest Pro-Touring car of all time (in my opinion), it may very well get spanked at the challenge by much more ordinary cars that have already been sorted out. And that's okay. At best, you should expect to use the challenge to dial in your chassis. If you're going there to kick ass, you'd better hit another track or two first.
I plan on doing just that..we didn't go this far to have a cadillac whop up on us..I HOPE

[Steve Chryssos]

I plan on doing just that..we didn't go this far to have a cadillac whop up on us..I HOPE

Sounds like yer "skeered". Or maybe yer a "skeered possum with fuzzy nuts". There. How'z my hillbilly coming along? Am I doin it right?

My future ex sister in law is a Georgia Peach. She says things like "pree-shee-ate cha" (whatever that means) and "Well, there ain't hardly enuff room in here to swing a dead cat!!"

Which begs the obvious question. Anyway, it's nice having you around Bob. Never a dull moment. If Hot Rod can't get it together, I hope we can figure this thing out on our own. With your money and my brains, we should be able to make it happen. All we need is a money man (or men) to front a weekend's worth of the track rental fees. If that money man turns out to be Hot Rod, so be it. If not, then those of us with industry pull and those of us with some cashola will have to band together and step up. I really believe that hot rodders will show up for a well organized, effectively promoted weekend of hot lapping and partying. There's always risk, but the money should come back in the form of entry fees.

If I had a pot to piss in, I would gladly be the sugar daddy. But I gave all my money to my intellectual properties lawyer--bless his greedy little black heart. So I will gladly contribute on any other level.

You sound determined enough. So am I.

[Bob Johnson]

bob who was the driver going to be on your car?
don't know for sure..probably a guy named Chet Wittel..runs a engine shop in Buford Ga that builds BMW and mazda engines primarily.

[vanzuuk1]

No hired hot shoes!

[Bob Johnson]

Sounds like yer "skeered". Or maybe yer a "skeered possum with fuzzy nuts". There. How'z my hillbilly coming along? Am I doin it right?

My future ex sister in law is a Georgia Peach. She says things like "pree-shee-ate cha" (whatever that means) and "Well, there ain't hardly enuff room in here to swing a dead cat!!"

Which begs the obvious question. Anyway, it's nice having you around Bob. Never a dull moment. If Hot Rod can't get it together, I hope we can figure this thing out on our own. With your money and my brains, we should be able to make it happen. All we need is a money man (or men) to front a weekend's worth of the track rental fees. If that money man turns out to be Hot Rod, so be it. If not, then those of us with industry pull and those of us with some cashola will have to band together and step up. I really believe that hot rodders will show up for a well organized, effectively promoted weekend of hot lapping and partying. There's always risk, but the money should come back in the form of entry fees.

If I had a pot to piss in, I would gladly be the sugar daddy. But I gave all my money to my intellectual properties lawyer--bless his greedy little black heart. So I will gladly contribute on any other level.

You sound determined enough. So am I.
Let's get in Charlie L's wallet. If he isn't going to bring the mule, then at least he can spring for the cheese..got long arms and deep pockets that boy. We'll figure something out..they rent out Road Atlanta..we might piggyback with some other group..Year One might be able to swing something at the EXperience....

[Steve Chryssos]

We'll see what David Freiburger and hot rod comes up with first. I'll see him on the 23rd out in LA so I'll get the lowdown if there is one.

[Bob Johnson]

Sounds like yer "skeered". Or maybe yer a "skeered possum with fuzzy nuts". There. How'z my hillbilly coming along? Am I doin it right?

My future ex sister in law is a Georgia Peach. She says things like "pree-shee-ate cha" (whatever that means) and "Well, there ain't hardly enuff room in here to swing a dead cat!!"

Which begs the obvious question. Anyway, it's nice having you around Bob. Never a dull moment. If Hot Rod can't get it together, I hope we can figure this thing out on our own. With your money and my brains, we should be able to make it happen. All we need is a money man (or men) to front a weekend's worth of the track rental fees. If that money man turns out to be Hot Rod, so be it. If not, then those of us with industry pull and those of us with some cashola will have to band together and step up. I really believe that hot rodders will show up for a well organized, effectively promoted weekend of hot lapping and partying. There's always risk, but the money should come back in the form of entry fees.

If I had a pot to piss in, I would gladly be the sugar daddy. But I gave all my money to my intellectual properties lawyer--bless his greedy little black heart. So I will gladly contribute on any other level.

You sound determined enough. So am I.
keep working on that lingo..you're getting the hang of it..it'll take a lot of time and work but it will be well worth it..Waffle House waitresses just love it.

[Bob Johnson]

No hired hot shoes!
he's not a hot shoe..just a good sound driver that doesn't wreck stuff..only thing shorter than my attention span is my pud..can't afford to wreck the ol Cuda.

[Bob Johnson]

A) The caddy is cool because its such a sidestep from the norm, plus its done well and Jeff can drive.

B) Steevo, I am a proud member of the "tape on the headlights" club, so beware!

C) the ultima is a weapon, a gtp car with turn signals.

D) True, you can ride shotgun in my car if you ever come out east.

E) If anyone wants to meet at an autocross in the new york/tristate area, I am in. The track day wont happen for me until late summer, most likely. I would share a trailer to the year one thing, however.

F) this should just be a perpetual thread , the topic will always pop up.
I don't know if that Amtrack autotrain comes thru Atlanta going to Fla. That sounded like one heck of a deal

[Steve Chryssos]

keep working on that lingo..you're getting the hang of it..it'll take a lot of time and work but it will be well worth it..Waffle House waitresses just love it.

Yeah, I'll keep trying. I was down in Mississippi last year at a convenience store. The clerk, being a polite southerner, said "Hey there! Where y'all from?"

Being a New Yorker, I answered: " None of your F#%kin business!"

[Bob Johnson]

As you can see Bob, there are plenty players here. Hopefully with the upcoming Year One event, some of the newer car will participate. There are so many different cars, and types of cars that while 1st gens are the most popular, we are well represented across the board. Personally I want to see the Poison Dart out there, shooting arrows..... :3gears:
maybe if we can't outrun the vette, we can gang up on em and give em a good whoopin for messin in our house? Damn yankee

[Bob Johnson]

And here's one of my current favorites. Part street rod/part street fighter. He doesn't have any room for a clutch pedal, so Chris will be using one of my paddle shifters with a 4L80E. Paints custom Harley's for a living in Oregon. Looks rough, but Chris works fast.
34 cab with a carbon fiber 32 shell, black primer, 4 whl independent supension, Z06 18" wheels, 358 SBC 2100lbs!!
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Damn that sucker is light..two paper Pepsi cups, and empty ones too, holding it up..

[Bob Johnson]

[QUOTE=streetfytr68]Uhh...yeah. Like I said school's in. That land yacht (Cadillac Attack) won Real Street Eliminator a few years back. From what I heard it's a real blast to watch that car negotiate turns and cones. Land Ho! Comin About!! It was pretty much built as a smack in the face to the rest of us pony car types and it lives up to that ideal. Spend some time at Jeff's website Jeff's shop (http://www.schwartzperformance.com/featuredprojects.htm ) and you'll see that Jeff has a knack for turning alternative platforms into quality rides.
Jeff also did most of the work on Poison Dart which is another excellent candidate for the Hot Rod challenge. Imagine Motorsports PAID to sponsor Power Tour last year and still, Poison Dart did not get any love in Hot Rod. Poison Dart can be categorized as too "over-the-top" or too pretty to run hard. But I spent a bunch of time with Rich Weiss at SEMA. He's a cool dude who is itchin for the opportunity to beat on his ride now that the show circuit crap is over. If it get's scuffed, he'll just fix it. It's only money.
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So I guess the lesson here, Bob, is that while you own the coolest Pro-Touring car of all time (in my opinion), it may very well get spanked at the challenge by much more ordinary cars that have already been sorted out. And that's okay. At best, you should expect to use the challenge to dial in your chassis. If you're going there to kick ass, you'd better hit another track or two first.

[Hot Rod]

No kidding....there is another good interior guy down there in greenings back yard basically

Shannon of Hot Rod interiors

I'm 2 hours from Greenings shop.

[Bob Johnson]

As you can see Bob, there are plenty players here. Hopefully with the upcoming Year One event, some of the newer car will participate. There are so many different cars, and types of cars that while 1st gens are the most popular, we are well represented across the board. Personally I want to see the Poison Dart out there, shooting arrows..... :3gears:
Let's get it on!!!

[Bill Howell]

maybe if we can't outrun the vette, we can gang up on em and give em a good whoopin for messin in our house? Damn yankee

Or use a Georgia gas credit card and let him pay for the gas all weekend. :lmao: :lmao:

[Bill Howell]

I'm 2 hours from Greenings shop.
Hey Shannon, good to see you around. :twothumbs

[Bob Johnson]

I plan on doing just that..we didn't go this far to have a cadillac whop up on us..I HOPE
was this the dart in one of the mags a few months ago? Had a Hemi

[Bob Johnson]

Yeah, I'll keep trying. I was down in Mississippi last year at a convenience store. The clerk, being a polite southerner, said "Hey there! Where y'all from?"

Being a New Yorker, I answered: " None of your F#%kin business!"
probably pissed in your slurpee after that while you weren't looking

[Bill Howell]

was this the dart in one of the mags a few months ago? Had a Hemi

What do you know. He got one of the test questions right! :headbang: lol
Yes that is it. It was also at SEMA, right down from your car in the Holley booth I think.

[Hot Rod]

Hey Shannon, good to see you around. :twothumbs

Thanks!!!

Hey just wanted to add your car turned out grate!!

[Hot Rod]

Bob love the Cuda. I liked the Woody you had done a few years back also. I saw you and Alan at the Noccalula Falls car show Gadsden, Alabama. If your ever drivering up Hwy 280 in Alaxander City. Be sure to look me up (Shannon Walters) I'll tkae you over to a few neat shops around here.

Shop 1 (http://www.interiorsbyshannon.com/dads_shop.htm)

Shop 2 (http://www.garagejunkies.net/showthread.php?t=43)

[Bob Johnson]

Bob love the Cuda. I liked the Woody you had done a few years back also. I saw you and Alan at the Noccalula Falls car show Gadsden, Alabama. If your ever drivering up Hwy 280 in Alaxander City. Be sure to look me up (Shannon Walters) I'll tkae you over to a few neat shops around here.

Shop 1 (http://www.interiorsbyshannon.com/dads_shop.htm)

Shop 2 (http://www.garagejunkies.net/showthread.php?t=43)
Thanks..glad you like them. Good to talk to again even though it's online. I need to get over there more..I own a business in Birmingham..got a good guy running it so i don't bother him..kinda like having a hard pud...you want it to stay that way don't fu*k with it. Need to get over to Neal's shop too..Upholstery looks great. lots of you talented guys over there

[jeff s]

Sorry to be late posting on this one.
Bob, I met you at SEMA, by your Cuda, sweet ride.
Keep me in mind for your next project, I've got a few ideas up my sleeve, I'd like to provide someone.
Thanks to all you guys for the compliments. We had Cadillac Attack out last year for a number of events.
Around Road America it runs 30 seconds per lap faster than the Jarvis' Vette that Hot Rod's bragging about.
And my Ultima GTR is 30 seconds faster around RA than the Caddy.
If the Hot Rod challenge is held not too far away, we'll be there with Boss 49 and a few others. Oh, by the way I'm building a twin turbo LS2 for my Ultima, 1200hp 2300#. Got a pair of T61's Monday, will make it's public debut at 0-200-0. Did'nt mean to hijack the thread, but since you guys were talking about me here....
www.schwartzperformance.com

[Bill Howell]

We thought you did not love us anymore Jeff-lol
Welcome to the party. You need to come to the Year One deal too in April.

[Bob Johnson]

Sorry to be late posting on this one.
Bob, I met you at SEMA, by your Cuda, sweet ride.
Keep me in mind for your next project, I've got a few ideas up my sleeve, I'd like to provide someone.
Thanks to all you guys for the compliments. We had Cadillac Attack out last year for a number of events.
Around Road America it runs 30 seconds per lap faster than the Jarvis' Vette that Hot Rod's bragging about.
And my Ultima GTR is 30 seconds faster around RA than the Caddy.
If the Hot Rod challenge is held not too far away, we'll be there with Boss 49 and a few others. Oh, by the way I'm building a twin turbo LS2 for my Ultima, 1200hp 2300#. Got a pair of T61's Monday, will make it's public debut at 0-200-0. Did'nt mean to hijack the thread, but since you guys were talking about me here....
www.schwartzperformance.com
do you know the caddy 2 door that had an Olds engine in it? It was in a magazine a couple years ago. They were raving about it and a slant 6 valiant or Dart or something. The numbers on that Caddy are just off the chart. You must win a lot of bets with that puppy. Glad I was forewarned..forgot about the Fleetwood having a 2 door. I leased one to a friend of mine..they were rare as hell..it had Vogues on it..I saw some on a 300 Chrysler the other day. Denmans next I guess..I had my 69 Black RS Z-28 with the Donovan engine on the 2003 power tour..you had that yellow ultima on it? I've got to see that Caddy run..hard for me to conceive what it does...Be easy on my Cuda..don't let the air out of me too quick..being bald, short, pudly impaired,fat, slow, and old is all the hits my ego can stand. You are on the home team aren't you? Make sure the Hot Rod entrant is well covered by more than a few of us...

[Bob Johnson]

do you know the caddy 2 door that had an Olds engine in it? It was in a magazine a couple years ago. They were raving about it and a slant 6 valiant or Dart or something. The numbers on that Caddy are just off the chart. You must win a lot of bets with that puppy. Glad I was forewarned..forgot about the Fleetwood having a 2 door. I leased one to a friend of mine..they were rare as hell..it had Vogues on it..I saw some on a 300 Chrysler the other day. Denmans next I guess..I had my 69 Black RS Z-28 with the Donovan engine on the 2003 power tour..you had that yellow ultima on it? I've got to see that Caddy run..hard for me to conceive what it does...Be easy on my Cuda..don't let the air out of me too quick..being bald, short, pudly impaired,fat, slow, and old is all the hits my ego can stand. You are on the home team aren't you? Make sure the Hot Rod entrant is well covered by more than a few of us...
heard the army is trying to get in touch with you about doing some modifications to their tanks..they'd like for them to negotiate a turn @ 1G..go 0-60 in under 6 sec.,, stop on a dime and give a nickle change...you know why they don't circumsize Iraqi soldiers? Wouldn't have anyplace to store their chewing gum during a sand storm..

[Damn True]

Just read the Vette article. Nice car, and I dug the fact that they had Stielow there to drive it and help with the tuning. But ferrchrissakes, where were the lap times?

[6'9"Witha69]

Is there an award for longest thread??

:1st:


Long reading!

[Bob Johnson]

Just read the Vette article. Nice car, and I dug the fact that they had Stielow there to drive it and help with the tuning. But ferrchrissakes, where were the lap times?
I don't know but if you will go back up a few postings, the 82 Cadillac Fleetwood supposedly went 30 Sec faster per lap @ Road America than the Vette went. I really am skeered..for real,,how do you explain to your groupies that a 82 Fleetwood just kicked your super hi dollar Cuda's ass..I don't have that much of a command over the English language. :scared:

[jeff s]

My Caddy did have a 7200 rpm Olds 455 engine in it for a while. Scattered all over road in AZ on Power Tour 2001. Replaced it with a mild 500 Cad with NOS.
PT 2003 was the maiden voyage for my Ultima GTR, aka Street Alien. I do remember the Camaro.
Bob, If you get the Cuda dialed in, and if they get that Vette dialed in, I'm sure there's no way my Caddy could keep up.
The key is having your ride dialed it, that's what won me RSE.
And you'll never get it dailed in unless you take it to the track.
www.schwartzperformance.com

[Steve Chryssos]

Bob, If you get the Cuda dialed in, and if they get that Vette dialed in, I'm sure there's no way my Caddy could keep up.
The key is having your ride dialed it, that's what won me RSE.
And you'll never get it dailed in unless you take it to the track.
www.schwartzperformance.com

Jeff,
Just add a 2nd steering wheel for the back half of the car. They won't know what hit em.

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[Bob Johnson]

My Caddy did have a 7200 rpm Olds 455 engine in it for a while. Scattered all over road in AZ on Power Tour 2001. Replaced it with a mild 500 Cad with NOS.
PT 2003 was the maiden voyage for my Ultima GTR, aka Street Alien. I do remember the Camaro.
Bob, If you get the Cuda dialed in, and if they get that Vette dialed in, I'm sure there's no way my Caddy could keep up.
The key is having your ride dialed it, that's what won me RSE.
And you'll never get it dailed in unless you take it to the track.
www.schwartzperformance.com
7200 RPM Olds..you musta done some kind of oiling changes to that puppy..Ol Mondello musta breathed on it..what happened to the torque dependency? I scattered my share of 400's & 425's in the old days with my 65 442. Gave up Olds for big block Chevy before the 455's..We will be dialed in..Sponsors include..Michelin,Addco,Bilstein,Hyperco,Red Devil,so we've got some experience on our side..If you ran 30 sec faster per lap, he's got a lot of tweaking to do...and so do I..

[Bob Johnson]

Jeff,
Just add a 2nd steering wheel for the back half of the car. They won't know what hit em.

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lookin at what he's done, I don't know what's hit me already..I would think this is April fools but this isn't April..don't get his imagination going, he'll have a hook n ladder out there doing a G on the skid pan..his theory is go by the fire so fast you blow it out..

[vanzuuk1]

Can you guys tell me if i have this right-

Alan johnson built the battleax and the orange cuda.

Bob johnson owned battleax and sold it , then bought the orange cuda.

The real bob johnson owns none of the above.

Coopersomething now owns battleax.

Sorry if I sound confused but there's more too many johnsons being exposed. (that sounded a little gross)

[Bill Howell]

Can you guys tell me if i have this right-

Alan johnson built the battleax and the orange cuda.

Bob johnson owned battleax and sold it , then bought the orange cuda.

The real bob johnson owns none of the above.

Coopersomething now owns battleax.

Sorry if I sound confused but there's more too many johnsons being exposed. (that sounded a little gross)
:hmm: I think you got it. Real Bob Johnson has a twin turbo camaro that is going to give the cuda a hard time. No wait, Cooter Bob Johnson gives Real Bob Johnson a hard time, but loves him like a son. No, he is like a bast**d son. Heck I don't know, the only thing I have picked up on is this. Alan makes it very clear everytime the subject comes up that he is NO relation. I wonder why? :lmao:

[Bob Johnson]

Can you guys tell me if i have this right-

Alan johnson built the battleax and the orange cuda.

Bob johnson owned battleax and sold it , then bought the orange cuda.

The real bob johnson owns none of the above.

Coopersomething now owns battleax.

Sorry if I sound confused but there's more too many johnsons being exposed. (that sounded a little gross)
You're getting close..I didn't buy the Cuda..I had Alan build it..It's Doug Cooper..not cooper something..and ol Cooter cannot for the life of me understand why he stresses we are not related..even though I've raised him from a pup..spent about as much on him as I have each of my kids..I'm proud of all of them..even ol Real..ain't spent a dime on him though..gonna be a sad day when I kick his as*with that Cuda...I'll feel proud, while at the same time be sad and ashamed..like Warren Johnson does when he whops up on ol Kurt..Just thought I'd bring another Johnson or two in..Now Alan does not tune top fuel Dragsters, drive a pro stock Mopar, build Northstar Cadillac motors, but they are Alan Johnson..just not this Alan Johnson..Then there's J Ray Johnson..you can call him Jay..you can call him Ray..you can call him Jay Ray or you can call him Ray Jay..but you doesn't have to call him Johnson..now you straight??

[Van B]

Clear as mud. :rolleyes:

[Steve Chryssos]

I just did a google search for "Bob Johnon" and "Robert Johnson". All I came up with was a famous blues musician. No evidence of a loquacious hillbilly hot rod philosopher at all.

[Bill Howell]

I just did a google search for "Bob Johnon" and Robert Johnson. All I came up with was a famous blues musician. No evidence of a loquacious hillbilly hot rod philosopher at all.

You will find that info under Cooter Johnson.

[Bob Johnson]

I just did a google search for "Bob Johnon" and "Robert Johnson". All I came up with was a famous blues musician. No evidence of a loquacious hillbilly hot rod philosopher at all.
now don't go a bringing Loquacious Johnson into this..The Real get's piss*d when you talk about his mama..she had a real hard time in the projects raisin ol Bob..an ol Cooter couldn't have nuthin to do with them bein as he was the #1 son of the Grand National Imperial Wizard of the KKK..

[Steve Chryssos]

now don't go a bringing Loquacious Johnson into this..The Real get's piss*d when you talk about his mama.....

Now THAT'S Funny

[Bob Johnson]

I just did a google search for "Bob Johnon" and "Robert Johnson". All I came up with was a famous blues musician. No evidence of a loquacious hillbilly hot rod philosopher at all.
Now Steve..you only did a half ass search for me under Bob Johnson..there are only 34,600,000 different listings for Bob Johnson..now that's the truff..ain't I worth a thorough search..find me under Big Bob Johnson and his fantastic speed circus..dats me..not the Bob Johnson who started and owns BET Television..now that's another story..me and BET Bob was havin a manage a trois with Loquacious..and I've never told it before, but that's how The Real came about..That's why I'm not so sure he's mine. him eatin BBQ, Watermelon,chitlins,Church's Fried Chicken,and washin it down with Kool Aid kinda makes me suspicious..plus the waitresses at the waffle house say he's well endowed if you know what I mean..

[Steve Chryssos]

..find me under Big Bob Johnson and his fantastic speed circus..dats me..

Okay. Now I get it. Big Bob Johnson --> Bob's Big Boy. That's you on the right.

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[vanzuuk1]

The only thing that will clear this up is a photo of each person with a name tag on.

My name is Dirk vanzuuk, nice to meet you ... Mr. johnson.

I am still confused.

[Bob Johnson]

Okay. Now I get it. Big Bob Johnson --> Bob's Big Boy. That's you on the right.

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Ate enuff of his burgers I should look like him..shave his head and it'll be close..you are what you eat..guess I should be a pus*y if that's the case..

[Steve Chryssos]

What is this thread about anyway?

[Bob Johnson]

The only thing that will clear this up is a photo of each person with a name tag on.

My name is Dirk vanzuuk, nice to meet you ... Mr. johnson.

I am still confused.
We'll try to get together for a group photo...The REAL gets appearance money though..maybe the red neck paparatzi will let us have a good photo they sneak at the chicken fights he commentates..me n chicken George'll be there too

[Doug Cooper]

We'll try to get together for a group photo...The REAL gets appearance money though..maybe the red neck paparatzi will let us have a good photo they sneak at the chicken fights he commentates..me n chicken George'll be there too


Bob, I need to get paid to be in a photo with all those Johnsons!


Doug Cooper [Johnsons Used Cars division]

[Steve Chryssos]

Never mind. Profanity filter killed the joke.

[Bob Johnson]

Bob, I need to get paid to be in a photo with all those Johnsons!


Doug Cooper [Johnsons Used Cars division]
you gonna have to pay us sucker

[Bob Johnson]

Never mind. Profanity filter killed the joke.
disguise it byatch..we can figure it out

[Bob Johnson]

What is this thread about anyway?
if you haven't already surmised..I've got AADD..lost my focus..AADD is adult attention deficit disorder..I knew one of you would wonder what southern saying it was

[Doug Cooper]

The baddest Cuda on the planet!

Is it pro-tourings top dog?

[parsonsj]

if you haven't already surmised..I've got AADD..lost my focus..AADD is adult attention deficit disorder..I knew one of you would wonder what southern saying it wasI was just gonna ask about that. Glad you ... Look! A chicken!!

[Steve Chryssos]

if you haven't already surmised..I've got AADD..lost my focus..AADD is adult attention deficit disorder..I knew one of you would wonder what southern saying it was

Yeah..me too. It's a by-product of unbridled genius..I think. :confused:

[Steve Chryssos]

The baddest Cuda on the planet!

Is it pro-tourings top dog?

YUP. Baddest of dem all. :worship:

[Steve Chryssos]

disguise it byatch..we can figure it out

No can do. I'm a "Site Sponsor" See ya later, I have a car to take apart. Again.

[Bob Johnson]

The baddest Cuda on the planet!

Is it pro-tourings top dog?
I'll go out on a limb like some of the other guys did about the Mule and say Hell Yes..I think my limb will be more populated than theirs..in fact I'll bet Mark Stielow will be on it and my bud Charlie..but there's a lot of limbs on that ol tree..I know you are fixing to get squatters rights on one of them right over mine..don't poop on us big boy..don't forget ol Staveski..he's gonna knock me off too.. so he says..he's already got a woodworker working on the dash..no pine this time..he's serious..if anybody is going to get me, I'd like it to be you..you're a good guy..you and Alan will be a force to be reckoned with..I know Alan was talking to Stielow about some stuff on your future project..

[Bob Johnson]

No can do. I'm a "Site Sponsor" See ya later, I have a car to take apart. Again.
You sponsors have a code of ethics like lawyers or something..

[Doug Cooper]

I'll go out on a limb like some of the other guys did about the Mule and say Hell Yes..I think my limb will be more populated than theirs..in fact I'll bet Mark Stielow will be on it and my bud Charlie..but there's a lot of limbs on that ol tree..I know you are fixing to get squatters rights on one of them right over mine..don't poop on us big boy..don't forget ol Staveski..he's gonna knock me off too.. so he says..he's already got a woodworker working on the dash..no pine this time..he's serious..if anybody is going to get me, I'd like it to be you..you're a good guy..you and Alan will be a force to be reckoned with..I know Alan was talking to Stielow about some stuff on your future project..

Awful tall tree, If I can climb that high? Look out below!!!

talked about smokin 4 steada 2.

[Bob Johnson]

Awful tall tree, If I can climb that high? Look out below!!!

talked about smokin 4 steada 2.
you rich biatch..you've got one of them buckets those tree surgeons have,,probably got that guy on TV that builds those $1Million dollar tree houses on retainer to build a house right over my paltry as* limb..

[Bob Johnson]

Awful tall tree, If I can climb that high? Look out below!!!

talked about smokin 4 steada 2.
is your habit getting worse..oh your're not talking weed are you..you're talking tires..

[KUL FIR CHICK N]

Doug, I got an interesting phone call a couple of days ago. Sounds like you're gonna beat me to the punch. Gonna be fun.

Ryan

[F70t/a]

Ate enuff of his burgers I should look like him..shave his head and it'll be close..you are what you eat..guess I should be a pus*y if that's the case..



LMAO :worship:

[Bob Johnson]

Doug, I got an interesting phone call a couple of days ago. Sounds like you're gonna beat me to the punch. Gonna be fun.

Ryan
gonna be expensive too

[KUL FIR CHICK N]

tell me about it. Ya got deeper pockets than mine= first to finish.

[Doug Cooper]

is your habit getting worse..oh your're not talking weed are you..you're talking tires..

You can't get in any deeper than the two of us[bad examples] my best has yet to come. From this point [Cuda] I think it's all down hill for you Bob

[Doug Cooper]

Doug, I got an interesting phone call a couple of days ago. Sounds like you're gonna beat me to the punch. Gonna be fun.

Ryan

Tell me about the call?

It isn't who gets there first... Example: look at the badas* Cudas just before Bob's they pale in comparison.[Bob's was started First]

They got topped QUICKLY it's gonna take some doin to top that Cuda!!

Some serious thinking/engineering...{see Alan's Ears Smokin}

Be back later going to a Hockey game. Doug

[Bob Johnson]

You can't get in any deeper than the two of us[bad examples] my best has yet to come. From this point [Cuda] I think it's all down hill for you Bob
unfortunately in every respect..

[Damn True]

All these Johnsons....reminds me of the town meeting in Blazing Saddles.

[Bob Johnson]

unfortunately in every respect..
is it up hill or down hill..feels like I've been going up hill with the rough side dragging..I'm ready to coast..maybe downhill is the answer

[Bob Johnson]

go to the wanted to buy section..a guy is wanting to buy or trade for a pro-tour car..he's got a bad as8 motor cycle he wants to trade of just buy the car outright..he has a car he's just finishing..71 Cuda on a viper Chassis..540 Hemi..twin turbos..6 speed..20's &22's..suicide lambo doors..bling bling can you hear them ring..go get him you big wheel hatin Mo Fos...need to get his deal back up here on the main page..get him off the wanted page..list his car separately from his car wanted crap

[KUL FIR CHICK N]

".......go get him you big wheel hatin Mo Fos..."


I'll grab the shovel, you bring the pipe.

[kmcanally]

get a rope...

[1970cuda]

need to see blinged cuda

[Bill Howell]

need to see blinged cuda

I think that the April PHR is going to cover Bob's car pretty throughly. There are a couple pictures of it in the March issue too.

[Bob Johnson]

Bill.. the 71 Cuda guy is in the car wanted section under pro-tour wanted..he was in new car section..someone saw he wanted to buy a car and moved him to wanted to buy section..like to see his Cuda..his scooter looks good..his lady looks better..try to get him back up in new cars and see if he'll send pix

[Bob Johnson]

".......go get him you big wheel hatin Mo Fos..."


I'll grab the shovel, you bring the pipe.
crack pipe, plastic pipe, peace pipe,exhaust pipe,stove pipe, bla bla bla like telling Forest Gump to bring some shrimp..

[Bill Howell]

Bill.. the 71 Cuda guy is in the car wanted section under pro-tour wanted..he was in new car section..someone saw he wanted to buy a car and moved him to wanted to buy section..like to see his Cuda..his scooter looks good..his lady looks better..try to get him back up in new cars and see if he'll send pix

He said in the thread he was WANTING a protouring car, so the thread was moved there. This was his first post, so I do not know him, however I sent him a pm. I will let you know his reply or he may just post up in his thread. :twothumbs
You are correct though, killer bike, and the girl is fine too!

[1970cuda]

what happened did i miss something or was it because i asked about an other cuda

[Bob Johnson]

what happened did i miss something or was it because i asked about a cuda
I was asking about the guy that was asking to buy a pro-tour car..he said he was just finishing a Cuda on a Viper Chassis, 540 Hemi with twin turbos, 6 speed etc. I wanted to see it

[Bob Johnson]

Keith Turk from the ECTA Maxton N. C. came by Alan Johnson's shop to inspect the Cuda and advise us what needed to be done to get it to pass inspection for a 200 + MPH run. We are going to put in a supplemental bolt in main hoop for the cage, install a window net, add another fire system for under the hood, get a chute..we already made provisions to mount it..secure the front and rear windscreens, racing seat..few other misc and sundry items..Hoping to have it ready for the first meet that Hot Rod Magazine will cover..I think Hunkins is going to be there also. Poteet and Trepanier are trying to get their Bonneville Cuda ready to test there too. Rabbit says he's going to break 200 for the first time there with his 29 roadster.he has run 230 something @ Bonneville..holds records at both places with his backyard built hot rod. I'm trying to get Jeff Isaacs to get on here with his yellow 69 Camaro that was in PHR a few months back..It holds several records at Maxton and he regularly drives it on the street around here. It's a budget build that is very fast and cool. Rabbit did the chassis and suspension. Another buddy of ours has a 55 Ford F1 pick-up..2003 cobra blower motor..6 speed..whole rear cradle out of the mustang..pro-tour pick-up..Rabbit built it too.

[Steve Chryssos]

It's about time this thread turned back into a discussion about your cuda. Speaking of which, does that car have a nickname? I'm tired of saying "The Alan Johnson/Bob Johnson (no relation) 'cuda" when I talk about the car to my homies.

How about: "cudafedasmallthirdworldnationinstead"

[Bill Howell]

It's about time this thread turned back into a discussion about your cuda. Speaking of which, does that car have a nickname? I'm tired of saying "The Alan Johnson/Bob Johnson (no relation) 'cuda" when I talk about the car to my homies.

How about: "cudafedasmallthirdworldnationinstead"

Johnson Cuda
Barely-a-cuda
Bear-a-Cuda
Notafish
Badfish (already taken?)
Newfish
CootersCar
CootersCuda
Cootersfish
CarbonCuda
Theorangecudathatfatguyowns :rotfl:

[Bob Johnson]

It's about time this thread turned back into a discussion about your cuda. Speaking of which, does that car have a nickname? I'm tired of saying "The Alan Johnson/Bob Johnson (no relation) 'cuda" when I talk about the car to my homies.

How about: "cudafedasmallthirdworldnationinstead"
I'm a redneck, but I'm not so redneck that I name my cars. Heck, I never even named my D*CK..John Hunkins named the Cuda The G-Force Cuda..Scott Parkhurst named my Camaro Battle Axe.(after my wife I think)..My 48 Ford woodie was Sportin Wood...no one named the others.

[parsonsj]

Bada-Cuda
Cuda Dreaming
Cuda Shudda
GF Cuda

jp

[1970cuda]

i cuda....i did

[Bob Johnson]

It's about time this thread turned back into a discussion about your cuda. Speaking of which, does that car have a nickname? I'm tired of saying "The Alan Johnson/Bob Johnson (no relation) 'cuda" when I talk about the car to my homies.

How about: "cudafedasmallthirdworldnationinstead"
it's really an acronym... cease u dumb asses :box:

[Travis B]

Bob what was wrong with the main hoop that was in the car? Was it the carbon fiber inlays the reason?



Keith Turk from the ECTA Maxton N. C. came by Alan Johnson's shop to inspect the Cuda and advise us what needed to be done to get it to pass inspection for a 200 + MPH run. We are going to put in a supplemental bolt in main hoop for the cage, install a window net, add another fire system for under the hood, get a chute..we already made provisions to mount it..secure the front and rear windscreens, racing seat..few other misc and sundry items..Hoping to have it ready for the first meet that Hot Rod Magazine will cover..I think Hunkins is going to be there also. Poteet and Trepanier are trying to get their Bonneville Cuda ready to test there too. Rabbit says he's going to break 200 for the first time there with his 29 roadster.he has run 230 something @ Bonneville..holds records at both places with his backyard built hot rod. I'm trying to get Jeff Isaacs to get on here with his yellow 69 Camaro that was in PHR a few months back..It holds several records at Maxton and he regularly drives it on the street around here. It's a budget build that is very fast and cool. Rabbit did the chassis and suspension. Another buddy of ours has a 55 Ford F1 pick-up..2003 cobra blower motor..6 speed..whole rear cradle out of the mustang..pro-tour pick-up..Rabbit built it too.

[Steve Chryssos]

G-Force Cuda works for me.
What will you run for wheels and tires at Maxton? How big are dem brakes? Will you change the gearing? Is the car running yet? Have you driven it? Why do cows sleep standing up?

[Travis B]

Why do cows sleep standing up?

whats funny is bob will probably amswer that? :idea:

[Steve Chryssos]

.....I'm trying to get Jeff Isaacs to get on here with his yellow 69 Camaro that was in PHR a few months back..It holds several records at Maxton and he regularly drives it on the street around here. It's a budget build that is very fast and cool. Rabbit did the chassis and suspension.....

Yeah get on that. We need more streetfighters around here. And that car's meaner and nastier than most.

[Steve Chryssos]

whats funny is bob will probably amswer that? :idea:

I'm sure.

[Bob Johnson]

they have approved the tires and wheels that are on it. We're talking to BBS about some wheels for competition. The tires that are on it are rated over 200..they come on Carrera GT's. Brakes are Red Devil 15" front and rear..ceramic coated titanium rotors..gearing is fine..342 with a .73 6th..waiting to get the rear end back..Rockland didn't have the housing for the over 3 ratio gear set,,I had to take mine out and send it to them..We are installing the computer etc now..not driven yet... I don't know much about cows..I'm a sheep man myself. Goats if I want some strange

[Travis B]

I don't know much about cows..I'm a sheep man myself. Goats if I want some strange


lol......bob thats hilarious :lmao:

glad to hear you guys are getting it assembled again. Have you heard it run on the dyno or anything yet bob?

[Bob Johnson]

lol......bob thats hilarious :lmao:

glad to hear you guys are getting it assembled again. Have you heard it run on the dyno or anything yet bob?
We will put it on a chassis dyno when we get everything together..after putting a few miles on it..it ran on the Indy Cylinder Head dyno with a carb. I never heard it..Alan has made reservations for Maxton April 1..got to get a bunch done..one deadline after another..be glad when it's all done..my wallet could use a break..

[syborg tt]

Since were on the subject of Sheeps.

Voted Best Joke of the Year in Australia

Kiwi walks into his bedroom with a sheep under his arm and says:
"Darling, this is the pig I have sex with when you have a headache."

His girlfriend is lying in bed and replies:
"I think you'll find that's a sheep, you idiot."

The man says:
" I think you'll find I wasn't talking to you."

[Bob Johnson]

Since were on the subject of Sheeps.

Voted Best Joke of the Year in Australia

Kiwi walks into his bedroom with a sheep under his arm and says:
"Darling, this is the pig I have sex with when you have a headache."

His girlfriend is lying in bed and replies:
"I think you'll find that's a sheep, you idiot."

The man says:
" I think you'll find I wasn't talking to you."
great..do you know the difference between Mitch Jagger and a scottish Sheep herder? Mitch says hey you get off my cloud,,
Scotish sheepherder says Hey McCloud..get off my ewe

in case some of you don't know..an ewe is a sheep..and that isn't some redneck term either

[Bob Johnson]

Bob what was wrong with the main hoop that was in the car? Was it the carbon fiber inlays the reason?
carbon inlays were OK since we pressed a 1 1/4 tube inside it..Main hoop requires a
1 3/4 OD 120 wall tube..ours was 1 1/2 120 wall. we will put a bolt in 1 3/4 beside the other..the rest was OK

[F70t/a]

any info on how the sectioning was done on the cuda? I read the post alan did, but i'm confussed on where it was cut on the main shell.

[Bob Johnson]

I emailed Alan to give you an answer. I contacted Jeff Isaacs to put his Camaro on the site..he's going to try tonight. I have a friend over here that's doing a 65 Fastback Mustang for a celeb..put an 04 or 05 firewall and floors, with one of his front ends and a 05 straight axle Mustang rears..going to run a mustang mod motor..just not sure which one..gonna have abs and traction control..it's kind of a secret..he will post on here shortly..this guy is pretty dang cool..Steve, call me I want Johnny Hunkins to get this car. I just found out about it..it'll be neat...I know Johnny's out of the country

[Bill Howell]

Since were on the subject of Sheeps.

Voted Best Joke of the Year in Australia

Kiwi walks into his bedroom with a sheep under his arm and says:
"Darling, this is the pig I have sex with when you have a headache."

His girlfriend is lying in bed and replies:
"I think you'll find that's a sheep, you idiot."

The man says:
" I think you'll find I wasn't talking to you." :lol:

[F70t/a]

I emailed Alan to give you an answer. I contacted Jeff Isaacs to put his Camaro on the site..he's going to try tonight. I have a friend over here that's doing a 65 Fastback Mustang for a celeb..put an 04 or 05 firewall and floors, with one of his front ends and a 05 straight axle Mustang rears..going to run a mustang mod motor..just not sure which one..gonna have abs and traction control..it's kind of a secret..he will post on here shortly..this guy is pretty dang cool..Steve, call me I want Johnny Hunkins to get this car. I just found out about it..it'll be neat...I know Johnny's out of the country


Cool thanks :drive2:

[MarkM66]

Keith Turk from the ECTA Maxton N. C. came by Alan Johnson's shop to inspect the Cuda and advise us what needed to be done to get it to pass inspection for a 200 + MPH run. We are going to put in a supplemental bolt in main hoop for the cage, install a window net, add another fire system for under the hood, get a chute..we already made provisions to mount it..secure the front and rear windscreens, racing seat..few other misc and sundry items..Hoping to have it ready for the first meet that Hot Rod Magazine will cover..I think Hunkins is going to be there also. Poteet and Trepanier are trying to get their Bonneville Cuda ready to test there too. Rabbit says he's going to break 200 for the first time there with his 29 roadster.he has run 230 something @ Bonneville..holds records at both places with his backyard built hot rod. I'm trying to get Jeff Isaacs to get on here with his yellow 69 Camaro that was in PHR a few months back..It holds several records at Maxton and he regularly drives it on the street around here. It's a budget build that is very fast and cool. Rabbit did the chassis and suspension. Another buddy of ours has a 55 Ford F1 pick-up..2003 cobra blower motor..6 speed..whole rear cradle out of the mustang..pro-tour pick-up..Rabbit built it too.

By what means do you plan to "secure the front and rear windscreens"?

[Travis B]

bob can you get me any info on this pedal kit? I can see the master cylinder bowls are made but are those wilwood masters and slave cylinder?

[syborg tt]

okay i was bored at work today so i sorted all of the pictures that i have of this amazing cuda (eak 95). I posted them to a gallery on my site and i hope you guy's don't mind. If you do please tell me and i will be more then happy to pull them down.

http://www.sportmachines.com/gallery/BJ-Cuda

[Steve Chryssos]

That car is unreal.
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[F70t/a]

okay i was bored at work today so i sorted all of the pictures that i have of this amazing cuda (eak 95). I posted them to a gallery on my site and i hope you guy's don't mind. If you do please tell me and i will be more then happy to pull them down.

http://www.sportmachines.com/gallery/BJ-Cuda


lol I have pretty much the same pics :thankyou: Thats nice of ya to make a gallery. I also think this car is badass, I look at the pics everyday :twothumbs I see something new everyday too. so much to take in :spank2:

[srh3trinity]

I used one of the pics as my desktop background.

[evo69]

Hey Bob, it may be somewhere in this huge thread, but I have failed to find it if it is.
What is Maxton saying about the cage rules for a 200mph plus run? We are using a full chrome moly cage/less door bars in our Sixtynine. Diameter/wall thickness?
Is your cage chrome moly or DOM?

Mark
www.evolutionmusclecars.com (http://www.evolutionmusclecars.com)

[Travis B]

Hey Bob, it may be somewhere in this huge thread, but I have failed to find it if it is.
What is Maxton saying about the cage rules for a 200mph plus run? We are using a full chrome moly cage/less door bars in our Sixtynine. Diameter/wall thickness?
Is your cage chrome moly or DOM?

Mark
www.evolutionmusclecars.com (http://www.evolutionmusclecars.com)

hey mark....this is from memory so bare with me and i'm sure bob will elaborate when he gets back from barret jackson

They made there cage out of 1.5 tubing and sleeved alot of it with 1.25 where they inlayed the carbon fiber. The only main concern they had with there cage is that the main hoop was not 1.75. I'm bob will be back on here after the barret jackson

[evo69]

Travis, thanks....I tried to find the rules on their website, but no luck. I remembered reading they were not too excited about the carbon inserts and sleeves.


Mark
www.evolutionmusclecars.com (http://www.evolutionmusclecars.com)

[Alan Johnson]

any info on how the sectioning was done on the cuda? I read the post alan did, but i'm confussed on where it was cut on the main shell.


Sorry it has taken so long to get this posted. These photos are a brief overview of sectioning the body. The quarters were not sectioned. The rockers were removed at the seam where they attach to the quarter panel. The inner rocker was replaced with a piece of 14ga to give some strength to it since it would no longer be a unibody . The cowl was sectioned around 1 3/8". I didn't worry about the firewall or original floor since it was all getting replaced. Sectioning the cowl and relocating the rockers was easy, the door frames were another story. I will be posting all of the construction photos on my website eventually, there are over 3 gig of photos.

[Bill Howell]

Alan, is Bob in Arizona this week?

[Alan Johnson]

any info on how the sectioning was done on the cuda? I read the post alan did, but i'm confussed on where it was cut on the main shell.


The door frames was the hardest part of sectioning the car. All the bracing and door structure had to be removed and reshaped after the door frame was fitted. There are a lot of complicated shapes in the front of the door frame and the door gets wider over a shorter distance with the section removed. This area couldn't be cut to fit like the cowl, it was cut as close as possible and many small pieces were fabricated to fill in the gaps. The door skin was initially cut and pieced back together. Once everything was sectioned and together the lower body line didn't look right so we made new door skins.

[Alan Johnson]

bob can you get me any info on this pedal kit? I can see the master cylinder bowls are made but are those wilwood masters and slave cylinder?


The pedals and master cylinders are from Tilton . The master cylinders pivot on rod ends and have a balance bar for front to rear bias, nice setup but pricey http://www.tiltonracing.com/content.php?page=list2&id=3&m=b (http://www.tiltonracing.com/content.php?page=list2&id=3&m=b)

[Alan Johnson]

okay i was bored at work today so i sorted all of the pictures that i have of this amazing cuda (eak 95). I posted them to a gallery on my site and i hope you guy's don't mind. If you do please tell me and i will be more then happy to pull them down.

http://www.sportmachines.com/gallery/BJ-Cuda


Don't mind at all , I appreciate it a lot since I haven't had time to post them on my site. Thanks

[Alan Johnson]

Hey Bob, it may be somewhere in this huge thread, but I have failed to find it if it is.
What is Maxton saying about the cage rules for a 200mph plus run? We are using a full chrome moly cage/less door bars in our Sixtynine. Diameter/wall thickness?
Is your cage chrome moly or DOM?

Mark
www.evolutionmusclecars.com (http://www.evolutionmusclecars.com)

All cars over 175 MPH must have a full roll cage of 1 5/8" x .120 wall. Door bars are a must have along with a lot of other details.
5 or 6 point seat belts, window net, exterior door release and master power switch, parachute, 10lb fire system for driver 5lb system for engine, window tabs front and rear, two roof rail strips 1/2" to 3/4" tall, racing seat mounted directly to chassis. I can try scanning the check list and chassis specs if you need them . The cage in the Cuda is 1 1/2" DOM

[Alan Johnson]

Alan, is Bob in Arizona this week?


Yes , he and Doug Cooper ( cooperscarz) went out last week for the Pomona swap meet. I don't think he has bought anything yet but that could change at any time. I haven't seen his bald head on Speed yet.


BTW Killer feature on the GTO, I just got my PHR today, I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who's late getting it.

[Bill Howell]

Yes , he and Doug Cooper ( cooperscarz) went out last week for the Pomona swap meet. I don't think he has bought anything yet but that could change at any time. I haven't seen his bald head on Speed yet.


BTW Killer feature on the GTO, I just got my PHR today, I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who's late getting it.
Thanks, that means alot coming from you. Frank posted in the Barrett Jackson thread that he saw Bob on tv at BJ a while ago, looking at a red 29 ford I think.
I am sure ole Cooter will come home with something. lol

[Alan Johnson]

Thanks, that means alot coming from you. Frank posted in the Barrett Jackson thread that he saw Bob on tv at BJ a while ago, looking at a red 29 ford I think.
I am sure ole Cooter will come home with something. lol


That was probably one of the cars he has out there to sale, he also has a 49-51 Ford woodie that runs tomorrow night.

[F70t/a]

Sorry it has taken so long to get this posted. These photos are a brief overview of sectioning the body. The quarters were not sectioned. The rockers were removed at the seam where they attach to the quarter panel. The inner rocker was replaced with a piece of 14ga to give some strength to it since it would no longer be a unibody . The cowl was sectioned around 1 3/8". I didn't worry about the firewall or original floor since it was all getting replaced. Sectioning the cowl and relocating the rockers was easy, the door frames were another story. I will be posting all of the construction photos on my website eventually, there are over 3 gig of photos.



cool thanks for all the pics and info. No worries about taking long. I know your a busy guy. thanks again alan :cool:

[1970cuda]

thanks for the pics lowve build pics

[evo69]

Alan,

Thanks for the info, if you don't mind giving it a try see if you can scan the rules or you can fax them to me. By the way, truely an awesome car, if there was any drool on the car at SEMA it was from me!

Mark

[email protected]
fax 770-720-0323

[syborg tt]

Don't mind at all , I appreciate it a lot since I haven't had time to post them on my site. Thanks

not a problem - If you would like you can send me the pics i have program that will convert the size to 640 x 480 automatically and i can send them back to you or i can post them to your site.

[Travis B]

The pedals and master cylinders are from Tilton . The master cylinders pivot on rod ends and have a balance bar for front to rear bias, nice setup but pricey http://www.tiltonracing.com/content.php?page=list2&id=3&m=b (http://www.tiltonracing.com/content.php?page=list2&id=3&m=b)



thanks Alan :twothumbs

[Bob Johnson]

We went to Pomona to the swap meet. I bought a couple of cars and drove them over to Scottsdale Sunday night. Barrett Jackson is absolutely out of control. It just gets bigger and wilder every year. I can't imagine what they will come up with next year..They have so many new high rollers signing up each year it's unbelievable..almost impossible to buy a good car unless you inspect all 1,000 plus cars and watch the whole deal. I have ADD so I can't sit still long..I always seem to miss the few good deals. I saw where some guys were questioning the fee. It's absolutely 8% seller and 8% buyer. No deals..level playing field for everyone. One new twist is if you bring your own car for instance and have to buy it back, you will also have to pay sales tax unless you furnish a ICC truckers Bill of Lading showing the car is going out of state. So if you get the car out there, costing probably $1K, the pay $1K run fee, 8% sell, 8%buyer, sales tax, and get it home..you've dropped 25% of the value of your car. You would have to farm out the haul to a ICC carrier, and try to carry someone else's car home to avoid it. Other auctions have no reserve auctions, but they have a 5% total fee..that won't hurt too bad so you can bid your car up..it still happens at Barrett but it's very costly. Mike Stavesky bought his Cuda Convt. back..gonna cost him a bunch..but at least he sold his Charger for big money. Ron Pratt bought the Motion Camaro I think..also the Futurliner, the Pontiac and Chrysler concepts, Lead Zephyr, 57 Vette with the new ZR1 motor and lord knows what else. The Futurliner high bidder claimed he was not bidding, and the second bidder bowed out leaving it to Ron Pratt at 3.4 Million I think. Ol Lillard's pecker got flaccid at about 300k..getting him about 10% of the way toward the purchase. That beat me..mine was flaccid before the bid started..but that's why God made Viagra..

[Van B]

The Futurliner high bidder claimed he was not bidding, and the second bidder bowed out leaving it to Ron Pratt at 3.4 Million I think. Ol Lillard's pecker got flaccid at about 300k..getting him about 10% of the way toward the purchase. That beat me..mine was flaccid before the bid started..but that's why God made Viagra..

I don't think anybody thought he would have had to sell 30 some copies of Malitude at $125k to own the bus.

[Bob Johnson]

I told him early on he'd have to sell his whole collection to buy it..Rumor is Charlie get's white knuckles when he rides the 50 cent car ride in front of the 5 and 10 cent store..

[Bob Johnson]

I don't think anybody thought he would have had to sell 30 some copies of Malitude at $125k to own the bus.
I told him early on he'd have to sell his whole collection to buy it..Rumor is Charlie get's white knuckles when he rides the 50 cent car ride in front of the 5 and 10 cent store..