Rear End Need Help!!!!

[RNation0001]

Hi Guys Im Trying To Remove The Carrier From My 67 Camaro, Its Not The Original Rear End And I Dont Think It Has C-Clips. Can Someone Help Identify This Carrier And Maybe Tell Me What I Need To Do Heres Some Pics

[dontlifttoshift]

Are those ladder bar brackets?

I don't see any pics of the axle ends, but I am guessing c clip eliminators. You will have to remove the four bolts holding the bearing retainer, like a 9" ford. You may need a slide hammer to get the axles out.

[RNation0001]

yes ladder bars, sux car rides like a crappy go kart, but good thing is that there not going back in, switching to a 4 link and panhard

can anyone identify the carrier?? is it a posi or locker. truck or car lol im about to buy all new internals and need some help

[Kenova]

I believe the carrier is a "gov-lock" or a GM truck G60 positraction. Some people cal them grenades.
The housing appears to be a GM 12 bolt from an A or B-body. I wasn't aware that the two (housing and carrier) were compatible.

Ken

[RNation0001]

i dont think its from a truck, the ring and pinion gear part numbers are for car carriers, and from what ive read you cant put car stuff in trucks

[Skip Fix]

What Ken said-looks like a Gov lok and 12 bolt housing.

There is a 8.5" 10 bolt for an A body that could have a Gov lock. It has bolt in axles no c clips but sure looks like a 12 bolt housing.

[71RS/SS396]

I think you may have a BOP 10 bolt, here's a article on them http://www.carcraft.com/projectbuild...m/viewall.html

[Kenova]

I think you may have a BOP 10 bolt, here's a article on them http://www.carcraft.com/projectbuild...m/viewall.html

What he said.

Ken

[Skip Fix]

Maybe how thye got a 8.5 truck Goc lok in it. Why would you have ladder bar brackets and use a Gov lok??

[Quickboat]

I think you may have a BOP 10 bolt, here's a article on them http://www.carcraft.com/projectbuild...m/viewall.html

BOP 10 bolts had 12 bolt holes on the cover?

[71RS/SS396]

BOP 10 bolts had 12 bolt holes on the cover?

Yep, a lot of people mistakenly buy these thinking they are 12 bolts.

[csouth]

BOP 10 bolts had 12 bolt holes on the cover?

Yep, thats what came in my car. It was used from '67-70. I would have been better off if the previous owner had kept the Corporate 8.5 that was supposed to be in there.

OP, the truck posi may be in there because I believe the units from Ford 8.8's can be retrofit into these. Look for any casting number on the housing and it will tell you if you have a BOP type "O" rear axle also count the number of bolts are on the ring gear.

See if you find a casting number of 39413, 394139 or 402227 anywhere, they are all for Olds type "O" housing

Here's a pic of mine I removed to give you an idea where to look

[Skip Fix]

The Chevy/GM trucks used the 8.5" Gov Lok with a 30 spline axle. The carrier swaps into the "normal" 8.5s although using an Eaton 30 spline real posi for the trucks in them get you a stronger axle than the 28 spliners. What I just used in the 81 TA when I freshened the rear in it and have for the 78 also. Be interesting to see what the spline count is.

8.8s use a Gov Lok?

[RNation0001]

Im Pretty Sure That The Ring Gear Has 12 Bolts. Ill Double Check When I Get Home Tho, I Grabbed An Eaton 12 Bolt Car Carrier Out Of Another Rear I Had And It Seems To Fit In The Rear End, But The Covers Are Definitely Different

[Ron Sutton]

I agree with Ken on the diff. It is absolutely a GM gov-loc ... which has a LOT of issues. So plan on selling that on ebay ... cheap.

I agree with Donny that it probably has bolt-on housing ends with a sealed roller bearing pressed onto the axle ... called C-clip eliminators. Very common in sportsman drag racing.

So far, Tim has said the only thing that makes sense on the housing, in that it may be a '68 to '70, Olds ... with 12 bolt cover & 10-bolt 8.5" ring gear. Count the bolts on the ring gear & measure the diameter of the ring gear & post that info for us.

[RNation0001]

Yep, Its A 12 Bolt Ring Gear. Now I Just Gotta Figure Out What Kinda Cover It Takes. THe Eaton Posi With Car Ring And Pinion Dropped RIght in And Work, Although I Havent Set It Up Yet It Looks Like It Will Work No Problem. So Who Made A Rear End That Took A Twelve Bolt Car Gov Lock lol

[Ron Sutton]

Hmmmm. I dunno.

[RNation0001]

Im gonna see if I can pull some numbers from it when I get home and maybe we can figure out what I got goin on in there lol. thanks for the help again ron,