4 Of a kind! It only took four S10 Blazers to make one!

[tornadocaster]

I think I'm out of options, I was going thru the post and if I go back to the lowering spindles I'm going to end up with no clearance under the LCA'S. I might have to bite the bullet and go to the 80s convertible Iroc springs and cut them down to he height I need and ditch the Viking coilover spring altogether.
Other than that all I can think of is cutting out the spring perch and the upper control arm mounting ears and add a couple of inches to the top of the frame.
Gio

[rentedmule]

I would get rid of those lower control arms long before the coilovers. The LCAs are always going to pose a clearance issue with the spring pocket that low. If you swap to a standard tubular LCA and drop spindles the coilovers will allow you to fine tune your ride height to get the stance you're after.

[SS PUNISHER]

I would get rid of those lower control arms long before the coilovers. The LCAs are always going to pose a clearance issue with the spring pocket that low. If you swap to a standard tubular LCA and drop spindles the coilovers will allow you to fine tune your ride height to get the stance you're after.

the coil overs are already maxed out, can't go anywhere but up from there. ..

[FlyDoc]

why don't you do a Chanel?
how thick are you body bushings? you can lower you body down and still have some ground clearance. Leave the rear ones and use a large washer and some rubber from an inter tube so it does not squeak. that should get you about 1" at the front.

[Tig]

I'm curious if using a different brand coil-over with custom mounts would get you were you want to be.

[tornadocaster]

I'm going to go lie under the truck tonite and look at my options. There are some good ideas on here and if it doesn't make my air cleaner stick out too much I'm going to try that body mount trick.

Thanks guys!
Cheers
Gio

[tornadocaster]

So I went an did the 1" body drop... So far so good after all is said and done I got another 3/4 inch.
When I go and measure the right side I see I have a flat so I filler up. It starts pissing air out the back. I feel around and realize that after shaving down the bump stops (I thought the bump stops from the lca's would give me a backup to the steering bumpstops)' on a lock to lock the lip of the wheel touches the upper control arms and ruined the rim. Off to the repair shop tomorrow.
I'm almost done with this truck!
G

[rentedmule]

It surprises me that you're having so much trouble getting the ride height you want. I run stock height spindles and Spohn LCAs with no lowering built into them and my truck is at least 3" lower than a stock s-series with a few inches of downward adjustment still left on my coilovers. I'm sure I could add 2" drop spindles with my current setup without any problems if I wanted it lower.

[tornadocaster]

Buddy I don't get it. This isn't the first s10 I've lowered. I really wanted to make it handle so I went all out with the upgrades. All the other lowered s10s it was spindles, belltech lowering springs and Iroc rims with spacers. Granted, it was all show and no go. It still handled like crap.
This blazer the little that I drove it with these upgrades handled awesome until I bent the rim.
I will get it done.
Cheers
Gio

[SS PUNISHER]

Call up Viking and see what they have to say. ..

[tornadocaster]

I called Viking and they did warn me before (and so did Matt) that the springs were meant for a big block so I am getting some 450lb ones which should drop it down a bit.
I took the wheel in today to get repaired and it will only take 3-4 weeks to get it fixed. I'm extatic to say the least.
Cheers
Bio

[Tig]

I'm almost done with this truck!
G

G
Don't give up so easily. I gave up and have regretted it ever since.
It sucks about your wheel, hopefully it wont be much to fix it. I'd throw some new body mounts in and go with the lower rate coils. See how that is and go from there. I think you may want to consider another brand coil-over, maybe a true coil-over with some new mounts. Another option may be to go with some custom made coils and some valved shocks made for the spring rate of the coils.
Its not just the coil, its the shock to. If they aren't matched its not going to handle well.

[tornadocaster]

G
Its not just the coil, its the shock to. If they aren't matched its not going to handle well.

This I didn't know. If the lighter spring doesn't work I was thinking of going with the moog Iroc convertible springs and using the same Viking shocks. In your opinion, if i were to use a traditional coilover would I have to rework the upper pocket where the spring goes now?
Gio

[Tig]

If you went with a traditional coil-over, the ones I've seen got creative and milled out new upper mounts.
Here are some images of the mounts that were made, or something similar to give you an idea.



The QA1 conversion is a 100% bolt-in system. It is also provided in the link below.

Here's a link for a pretty popular set up for First Gen S10s
http://www.spohn.net/shop/1982-2003-...ver-Mount.html

Check this out, its just a little reading material. They seem to love them and how they handle. http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f178/q...-i-use-479965/

I hope this stuff helps

[rentedmule]

I run 450 lb springs on my qa1's. Your 1st gen is probably lighter than my second gen so even with the V8 they could be a good fit for your application. For what it's worth they've started creaking a lot lately because the lower coils are rubbing across on another - I suspect they may be too light for heavy auto-X use so I'm moving up to 550's.

I've heard that an issue with coil overs on our trucks is that there isn't a lot of room for suspension travel. IIRC, the ART lower control arms are designed to fit a longer coil over to help fix that.

[tornadocaster]

I run 450 lb springs on my qa1's. Your 1st gen is probably lighter than my second gen so even with the V8 they could be a good fit for your application. For what it's worth they've started creaking a lot lately because the lower coils are rubbing across on another - I suspect they may be too light for heavy auto-X use so I'm moving up to 550's.

I've heard that an issue with coil overs on our trucks is that there isn't a lot of room for suspension travel. IIRC, the ART lower control arms are designed to fit a longer coil over to help fix that.

I agree there isnt a lot of travel left with coilovers as most of the spring is inside the pocket.
I am going to move to the 450 lb for a try.. truck is out of commission for now as I only have the 1 set of wheels and 1 is in the shop.
have a great weekend all!
Gio

[TRUK]

I feel your pain, my friend. Should be driving this weekend myself, but another setback in my project. Maybe you can buy one wheel? Then you will have a spare that you could mount on your roof

[Tig]

How the Blazer coming along?
Have you had a chance for the wheel to get fixed?

In for updates

[tornadocaster]

Got my wheel back on Friday. I'm just waiting to cut and shorten my lower control arms. I have those 3" drop ones that I will make 1" drop out of and go back to the lowered spindles.
I've been swamped with a couple of renos and a big concrete pad between the house and garage. I can't wait to drive the blazer again so hopefully this week I will make it happen.
Cheers
Giovanni

[Tig]

That's cool, how'd the wheel turnout?
Are you doing the control arms yourself? It should be a good project.
Oohh, sounds like some you have some cool projects going on around the homestead
I'm back on the lookout for a 2dr 2wd first gen, man, they are hard to find.

Lookin forward to your updates.
Later