Need a little help figuring something out

[83hurstguy]

Thanks once again, Ron and Lance. Appreciate the quick responses and details.

Ron, I've been slowly working my way through your suspension threads on lat-g, understand the high travel/low roll concept better now.

The nice part with the coilovers is being able to adjust ride height as desired (or as necessary for performance). I also need to talk to Mark at SC&C to see how much SPC lowers would increase my bump travel while retaining traditional coil springs. They drop the spring pocket at least 1/2". Leaning towards the coilovers if the budget allows.

[Ron Sutton]

Thanks once again, Ron and Lance. Appreciate the quick responses and details.

Ron, I've been slowly working my way through your suspension threads on lat-g, understand the high travel/low roll concept better now.

The nice part with the coilovers is being able to adjust ride height as desired (or as necessary for performance). I also need to talk to Mark at SC&C to see how much SPC lowers would increase my bump travel while retaining traditional coil springs. They drop the spring pocket at least 1/2". Leaning towards the coilovers if the budget allows.

I am a fan of the coil overs, for sure. If you go the ridetech route, we could install the same digressive valving in the front shocks that Lance has, which is a key reason it turns so well in the middle of the corners, when other cars are tight/pushy.

[83hurstguy]

I am a fan of the coil overs, for sure. If you go the ridetech route, we could install the same digressive valving in the front shocks that Lance has, which is a key reason it turns so well in the middle of the corners, when other cars are tight/pushy.

Thanks Ron. I probably shouldn't keep highjacking Lance's thread here, though this question may be pertinent to others interested. Looking at the budget, I'd be limited to single adjustable coilovers this year. The triple adjustables nearly double the price over the singles. What are your thoughts on having the singles vs waiting a year or more to swing the triples?

[Ron Sutton]

Thanks Ron. I probably shouldn't keep highjacking Lance's thread here, though this question may be pertinent to others interested. Looking at the budget, I'd be limited to single adjustable coilovers this year. The triple adjustables nearly double the price over the singles. What are your thoughts on having the singles vs waiting a year or more to swing the triples?

Hmmm. Good question.

I have raced a lot of series that only allowed us single adjustable shocks (as a cost control measure). We always choose rebound adjustable shocks of course. The reasoning is this:
* You can "tune" the compression of the suspension with springs.
* You can not tune the rebound of the suspension with springs.
* So if going single adjustable ... rebound adjustable shocks are the clear choice.

In racing, if the suspension is compressing too quickly, we simply change to a 25# stiffer spring ... and vice versa if too slow. But again, utilizing the adjustable rebound valving to control the extension of the shocks is major.

Double or triple adjustable shocks are preferred ... when budget is not an issue ... because you can adjust on the shock instead of changing a spring (to a degree). And, you can "fine tune" the compression rate in between spring rates.

So, Double or triple adjustable shocks are "nice" if you can afford them. Single adjustable shocks will achieve 80% of what you need to tune. Me? I'd buy the singles and rock on now. Your call.

[AutoX_a_Truck?]

I am a fan of the coil overs, for sure. If you go the ridetech route, we could install the same digressive valving in the front shocks that Lance has, which is a key reason it turns so well in the middle of the corners, when other cars are tight/pushy.

Hi Ron, I sent you a PM, but I am not sure if it went through but I also see you are busy starting a business. I have ridetech Triple Adjustable Coilovers on my Scout II, which uses a modified S10 front suspension somewhat similar to a g-body. I have aftermarket control arms and other components, but obviously my S10 based setup is currently less than ideal compared to some of the other high dollar stuff out there. When building my hot rod most of the parts and design fell into place based on what was available or what fit. My Dad and I recently mapped out the front suspension, which revealed slight differences side to side, probably from factory tolerances and 30 years of abuse. Anyway, without further hijacking this great thread, I have had a heck of a time trying to eliminate push in the middle of corners, particularly tight autoX corners. This thread inspired me and gave me hope that I might be able to wring quite a bit more out of my budget setup.

[Ron Sutton]

Hi Ron, I sent you a PM, but I am not sure if it went through but I also see you are busy starting a business. I have ridetech Triple Adjustable Coilovers on my Scout II, which uses a modified S10 front suspension somewhat similar to a g-body. I have aftermarket control arms and other components, but obviously my S10 based setup is currently less than ideal compared to some of the other high dollar stuff out there. When building my hot rod most of the parts and design fell into place based on what was available or what fit. My Dad and I recently mapped out the front suspension, which revealed slight differences side to side, probably from factory tolerances and 30 years of abuse. Anyway, without further hijacking this great thread, I have had a heck of a time trying to eliminate push in the middle of corners, particularly tight autoX corners. This thread inspired me and gave me hope that I might be able to wring quite a bit more out of my budget setup.

Glad you have "hope." If you want to discuss your numbers, set up & handling issues, start a new thread & PM me with a link.