BFGoodrich Rival

[dontlifttoshift]

Flash, I knew that, had it on my notes and forgot to transfer. Fixed and thanks!

[Bryce]

I WAS excited then no 275s. Oh well. My falkens will be replaced with more falkens or just say f-it and get the BFG R1s.

[Van B]

Looks like the sizes I would need are not available til May or June. Guess I'll use up the KDWs I have.

[AutoX_a_Truck?]

Actually, yeah. At first glance I thought, "not too bad" and then your post made me think a little harder, so I did some digging.

Using the pro-touring standard of 275/35-18 and 335/30-18 with a few noted exceptions here is what I came up with.

Prices lifted from TireRack or Discount Tire.

PS2 $1,752

Eagle F1 G2 $1,703 *(19" rear)

Super Sport $1,578 *(19" rear)

RT-615K $1,468 *(315 rear)

Rival $1,276

NT-05 $1,236 *(19" rear)

R888 $1,204 *(100 Treadwear)

KDW $1,142

Couple that with the fact that BFG is comparing this tire to real autocross tires wearing TW numbers under 200 and I am pretty excited. I do wish they had more sizes. The 275-17 seems like a no brainer. Me personally I would love to see 19s from 265 up through 345 and I think the ZO6 guys would too. I also think if BFG intends to push this to the ST crowd that run SCCA a 265-18would be good for the STX guys.

Just goes to show it is too bad the pro-touring oriented events decided to go with the arbitrary 200 UTQG instead of the SCCA 140 UTQG (also arguably arbitrary considering the tire wars that lead to huge distortions in the specs). The SCCA is larger and creates a better more competitive market. For instance I can get a set of 275/35/18 and 315/30/18 180 UTQG Kumhos for $1,150 shipped (I bought my 315/335/35/17 Kumhos for $1,000 shipped also). My Kumhos were worlds better than any KDWs I ever ran and miles better than my PS2s and NT05s.

[RSX302]

I was ready to lay down the cash today for the Rivals thru TireRack today(295/35/18 $301 & 335/30/18 $351), but then I saw April 2013..WTF...Guess I will be using my old slippery Mich's for RTTC. After that I will go back to my Toyo's since I already have new fronts sitting in the garage.

Why doesn't RTTC just split tire classes? I am very limited with the tire I can run. A whole 2 choices Mich 220TW & BFG 300TW to meet rules. Not buying a new set of Mich's for $2K.

[Brads70]

Hopefully they will come out with more sizes.... most likley going with 615K's due to sizes.

[Chadman27]

I found my next set of tires! ...of course that means I first have to (1) finish my car, and then (2) wear down the new treads, haha.

[brownz]

They have my sizes but... I wont need tires for another year. LOL I hope they come out with more sizes for the guys that need them. I really like BFG tires and always have. I dont see why they wouldnt have all the sizes ready and sizes for all popular applications

[T_Raven]

At least they have a 315/30/18. I'm surprised how many ties aren't available in that size considering how popular it is

[MattG]

Good info at DSE...

http://www.detroitspeed.com/speednew...aunch-pg1.html

[dontlifttoshift]

Good, quick read......

http://blog.365racing.net/2013/01/22...orsports-park/

[MattG]

Good, quick read......

http://blog.365racing.net/2013/01/22...orsports-park/

Good read, makes me even more excited to get the set I just ordered from Tirerack!

[dontlifttoshift]

Another positive review from outside of the PT circle. http://www.solomatters.com/2013/02/t...what-it-means/

[RSX302]

Well..since the Rivals won't be available to me for RTTC, I'm going to pull off and throw away my terrible 10yr old Mich pilot sports and run my new Toyo R888's instead. (somebody want the Mich's for free? Come get em) I tried to use for the 200tw rule, but they just don't bite for me. Just too damn old. I will definitely buy the Rivals later for street and next years RTTC. I hope I don't see Rivals at this event with someone that has a connection..that would be messed up.

[silvermonte]

Since this thread came up I started to really look into rim and tire sizes since im market for them, and Im really surprised at the lack of 17" tires, for those who are still buying larger size 17s where are you getting them from? I looked on tire rack and didnt come up with many in the 275+ width with a 200 tread wear, and the only company I found that still had lots of choices are the Kuhmo's but their tread wear is 180.So whats a guy to do? I dont want to jump up to 18s if I dont have to.

[Flash68]

Since this thread came up I started to really look into rim and tire sizes since im market for them, and Im really surprised at the lack of 17" tires, for those who are still buying larger size 17s where are you getting them from? I looked on tire rack and didnt come up with many in the 275+ width with a 200 tread wear, and the only company I found that still had lots of choices are the Kuhmo's but their tread wear is 180.So whats a guy to do? I dont want to jump up to 18s if I dont have to.

This is likely your best choice.

http://www.nittotire.com/Tire/nt05#size

[silvermonte]

This is likely your best choice.

http://www.nittotire.com/Tire/nt05#size

funny that you mention that, after a few hours trolling around the internet on sites other then tirerack i found the nitto site, they are 300tw and not the 200tw im looking for, but they have lots of sizes and the prices are pretty reasonable for something im just going to destroy on a track anyways, thanks for the help

[Flash68]

funny that you mention that, after a few hours trolling around the internet on sites other then tirerack i found the nitto site, they are 300tw and not the 200tw im looking for, but they have lots of sizes and the prices are pretty reasonable for something im just going to destroy on a track anyways, thanks for the help

look again. Nt05 is 200tw.

[dontlifttoshift]

Easily the most comprehensive review of the Rival to date. http://www.vorshlag.com/forums/showt...near#post57544

Here is my favorite excerpt.....

From my live Facebook review, "So the 3rd test was on the 2.7mi road course. Great course and the FR500S Mustangs were a hoot, even on 245s. Rival *crushed* the Falken in the back to back drives. Not even close. This is my new choice for optima series tires, OLOA, or Goodguys autocrossing." Yep, no contest. This will become THE tire for optima/Goodguys/ASCS events and possibly even on many One Lap of America cars and Chump/LeMons cars. We still don't know the wet characteristics, which the OLOA drivers will want to explore, but for dry running on track with a 200 UTQG minimum, this tire killed it.