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08-20-2012 #1
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Spindle completely separated from balljoint!!
Hey guys,
I lifted my Camaro on Sunday to change my oil and the right tire was just dangling. Went to check it out and the spindle is completely separated from the UCA! The pics aren't the best but hopefully you can see it below. The arms are connected to L&H Kustoms spindles and I've got MAYBE 800 miles on with all brand new components. Is this common? What happened?
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08-20-2012 #2
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Hard to say from the picture but it looks like the ball joint insert broke away from the spindle. Give Luke a call, im sure he'll take care of it.
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agreed! looks like the spindle insert came loose, cant say I have seen that happen before L&H will take care of it johnny on the spot
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Thanks guys! I'll try to give him a shout tomorrow.
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That is not common, and that is scary as hell.
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Sheeeesh...will watch this with interest.
Glad you're in one piece.Chris
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Being that the nut and cotter key are still in place it seems that the ridetech control arm is in tact.
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Good thing you had a coilover when you jacked it up!!!
No telling how a regular coil would have shot out!!
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Yeah, totally insane!
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Was this the same setup you had the bearing/seal issues with? Originally Posted by spacepirate
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Ray, you are thinking of a different pirate....... https://www.pro-touring.com/showthre...dle+seal+issue
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This isn't a ridetech issue, this is a L+H Spindle issue. Looking at their site, it looks like they don't have any warranty at all.
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Originally Posted by dontlifttoshift
Oops. Thanks, Donny.
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Wow, so lucky you found it on the lift not on the street or track, glad you're ok and hope you get it sorted.
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Travis thanks for the email and pics. As we spoke today I am very thankful that you and your car are ok and I am waiting for you to send the spindles back to us for inspection and we can determine exactly what happened. As I told you earlier today on the phone we have never had an issue like this before and theyre several guys with over 10k miles on them and one with 24k miles and they are all put to occasional track use. We have never had a failure before but as soon as I receive the spindle I will meet with our engineer and machinist to get to the bottom of what caused this and I assure you that we will take care of you and take the necessary measures to ensure that this doesn't ever happen again.
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Thanks so much Luke! We'll get to the bottom of this!
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Great Customer Service. You're right, very concerning. Originally Posted by L & H Kustoms:929912
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Spindle completely separated from balljoint!!
Just curious Luke but is this one of your original designs or a revised version??
https://www.pro-touring.com/showthre...Spindles/page3Last edited by zbugger; 08-22-2012 at 07:26 PM. Reason: Fixing link
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I`ll be following this closely. It`s very possible that it`s not a spindle or A arm design/construction issue but a case of good parts not working and playing well together in a particular set up. The ridetech arms are good pieces but are optimized for ridetech`s tall spindle which has a 2" drop. With L&H non drop spindles and a car run at the same final ride height as it would be with Ridetech 2" drop spindles the angle of the upper A arms will be about 14* more steep. That uses up almost half of the ball joints travel,making it very possible that it could bind in bump. That would slam the ball joint taper insert back and forth in the spindle like a hammer (note the bore in the spindle appears to be ovoid now) and could cause it to loosen up and release. The lower A arms have no bump stops,nor do the coil overs (just a polymer ring to avoid shock damage) so the suspension can pretty much travel until the car hits the ground. With an all Ridetech set up with their spindles the headers would likely hit the ground before you over travel the ball joints so it`s not an issue and the lack of bump stops allows people to lower the car more for shows etc. but with the non drop L&H spindles the additional angle could easily put things in a bind. My guess is that a set of correct height bump stops or even a few more clicks of compression dampening might have avoided the problem even with mixed application parts. Luckily this type of failure can only separate when the wheel is off the ground and hanging which is why the car still drove fine. If it hadn`t been jacked up it may have continued to work okay until it rattled enough to invite inspection. Spacepirate, even though you didn`t buy your parts from us please feel free to give me a call. I`d be happy to go over your set up with you. Mark SC&C
