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    1. #1
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      What Is Sentimental value really worth???

      What is sentimental value worth?
      Without making this a ridiculously long post, I am hitting a cross road with my project. I bought my 1968 Camaro when I was 15 years old, I am now 33. The car started life as a 6cyl 3 speed on the floor. It stayed that way for a few years then my dad helped me swap that out for a 4 speed and a 305 we had laying around the garage. I drove it like that throughout high school and my freshman and sophomore years of college. On one of my breaks from college I came home and went to take the car out and it had low oil which caused the 305 to seize up. That is when I decided it would be a good time to park it and tear it down, at this point the rockers and rear quarter panels were bubbling and the floors were getting pretty soft. So I parked it and started to strip it down with the intentions of building it into a nice street driver. Well then it sat, and sat and sat. Like lots of us life gets in the way I finished college, found a good job, got married, bought a house, had two kids. That is where I sit today. All the while saving whatever money I could for this project. Well as of today I have about 10K to start working on the car again. And I am very torn, I have priced out having my entire shell rebuilt which will be in the 10K rage. But I will have all new sheet metal. I like the idea of having basically a brand new shell, but then I think if I sold my shell and parts for maybe like 2500 buck that would give me 12.5K to start shopping for a car that is much further along than just a bare shell.
      Then I think of all of the great moments I have had with this car. And how it has been my goal to once again finish it. I can clearly still remember going with my dad when I was fifteen to look at it then haggle on the price and bring it home. The emotions are very strong.

      Then I think with my wallet, I have two daughters that will eventually go to college and probably get married, I have a mortgage, and lots of other responsibilities finacialy. I could probably be a lot closer to having a running and driving car that the family could enjoy a lot sooner using the money to to look for a car a lot further done that just a shell.
      SO PLEASE HELP!!!!


      Paul Krol
      1968 Camaro


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      What Is Sentimental value really worth???

      That's a tough one. I don't know that sentimental value has a price. I will go out on a limb here and say that if you were to get rid of it, you might regret it. But that's being said without knowing you. I had mine for 2 years, almost sold it but then decided to rebuild it. Now I have a 485 hp 383 5 speed corner hugging beast of a ride that I just love driving and I'm so glad I kept it. Good luck with your decision process.
      Brian Peacoe

      68 Camaro Heidts Subframe and 4 link. 2015 LS3, T56.

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      What is your longer term goal for the car? I think the decision is different depending on the estimated total cost, and the years it will take you to finance the rest of the project.

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      ya, I know how you feel. My 74 camaro was the first car I ever owned or bought on my own. I have had people offer me anywhere from $6500-$8500 for it and it still needs a full suspension and Interior rebuild. Any person in their right mind probably would have taken the money but with it being my first and all the blood, sweat and maybe a tear or two I just seemed to always want a little more than what they were willing to give for it! Also at the time it needed a trans rebuild but not any longer. So pretty much your sentimental value comes down to whether or not you really want to get rid of it!

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      What Is Sentimental value really worth???

      You WILL regret it...
      Josh
      "Schism"
      69 camaro

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      Sentimental value is the biggest price tag of them all, BUT it is an emotional price tag. I was in the same boat several years ago with my 68 that is in my avatar. Had the car 15 years, changed directions numerous times as trends and financials changed. Then I started to change direction again and asked myself what the hell am I doing. Sold the car for a huge loss, bought another project which still took me 18 months to finish, and don't regret selling the 68 for one second.
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      Here's my take. I purchased my 68 Camaro when I was 18, I'm now 58. I drove it on the street for three years then drag raced it for another 10 or so years. Once I got married I had no cash to race anymore and no money to put the car back on the street. Bottom line is that life took priority over the car. The result was the car has been stored in various garages for the past 30 odd years. As we have moved around the country for jobs the car has been moved along with us. I have had more offers to sell the car over the years than I can remember and I always turned them down flat knowing I would regret selling it as soon as it rolled out the drive. My wife used to pester me to sell it and after several years she realized I was not going to part with it and stopped bugging me. I'm now semi-retired, the house is paid for and I have spare money to play with. Now that life has slowed down a bit, I also have the time to work on the car.

      Here is the result of being paitent:
      The car as it was in the late 70's




      The car as it is today after approximately $40K worth of pro-touring suspension upgrades.








      My advice would be to keep the car and bring it back to life. It may not happen today or even next year, but with time the house will be paid off, the kids will be out of college and married and you have time and money to complete your project. Not everyone is sentimental about things like this and I understand that. But IMO you cannot put a price on sentimental value. Years from now you will not regret the decision.

      On a side note, I would recommend you contact the AMD Installation shop for panel replacement.
      http://amdinstallation.com/index.html
      Steve Hayes
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      Quote Originally Posted by TheJDMan View Post
      Here's my take. I purchased my 68 Camaro when I was 18, I'm now 58. I drove it on the street for three years then drag raced it for another 10 or so years. Once I got married I had no cash to race anymore and no money to put the car back on the street. Bottom line is that life took priority over the car. The result was the car has been stored in various garages for the past 30 odd years. As we have moved around the country for jobs the car has been moved along with us. I have had more offers to sell the car over the years than I can remember and I always turned them down flat knowing I would regret selling it as soon as it rolled out the drive. My wife used to pester me to sell it and after several years she realized I was not going to part with it and stopped bugging me. I'm now semi-retired, the house is paid for and I have spare money to play with. Now that life has slowed down a bit, I also have the time to work on the car.

      Here is the result of being paitent:
      The car as it was in the late 70's




      The car as it is today after approximately $40K worth of pro-touring suspension upgrades.








      My advice would be to keep the car and bring it back to life. It may not happen today or even next year, but with time the house will be paid off, the kids will be out of college and married and you have time and money to complete your project. Not everyone is sentimental about things like this and I understand that. But IMO you cannot put a price on sentimental value. Years from now you will not regret the decision.

      On a side note, I would recommend you contact the AMD Installation shop for panel replacement.
      http://amdinstallation.com/index.html
      Couldn’t have said it much better my self. Also got a nice lookin first gen there!

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      Quote Originally Posted by TheJDMan View Post
      Here's my take. I purchased my 68 Camaro when I was 18, I'm now 58. I drove it on the street for three years then drag raced it for another 10 or so years. Once I got married I had no cash to race anymore and no money to put the car back on the street. Bottom line is that life took priority over the car. The result was the car has been stored in various garages for the past 30 odd years. As we have moved around the country for jobs the car has been moved along with us. I have had more offers to sell the car over the years than I can remember and I always turned them down flat knowing I would regret selling it as soon as it rolled out the drive. My wife used to pester me to sell it and after several years she realized I was not going to part with it and stopped bugging me. I'm now semi-retired, the house is paid for and I have spare money to play with. Now that life has slowed down a bit, I also have the time to work on the car....
      That's a great story and it says it all.
      1969 Camaro SS, 350(NOM), M21, 12 Bolt Posi, 01B (Jan 69) LOS Build

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      You're only 33 years old!?
      If you have 10 large to tackle the body with then you are doing better than I am and I'm way past the wrong side of 50 years.
      Even if you were able to raise $15,000 to buy another you would probably wind up with a car that you wouldn't be happy with even if you could drive it.

      Keep it. If you don't regret it as the car rolls out of the driveway, you will as soon as you start having trouble with the "new" one.

      Ken
      If there is a hard way to do something, I'll find it!
      My other car is a Vega.

    11. #11
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      Quote Originally Posted by TheJDMan View Post
      Here's my take. I purchased my 68 Camaro when I was 18, I'm now 58. I drove it on the street for three years then drag raced it for another 10 or so years. Once I got married I had no cash to race anymore and no money to put the car back on the street. Bottom line is that life took priority over the car. The result was the car has been stored in various garages for the past 30 odd years. As we have moved around the country for jobs the car has been moved along with us. I have had more offers to sell the car over the years than I can remember and I always turned them down flat knowing I would regret selling it as soon as it rolled out the drive. My wife used to pester me to sell it and after several years she realized I was not going to part with it and stopped bugging me. I'm now semi-retired, the house is paid for and I have spare money to play with. Now that life has slowed down a bit, I also have the time to work on the car.

      Here is the result of being paitent:

      The car as it is today after approximately $40K worth of pro-touring suspension upgrades.


      My advice would be to keep the car and bring it back to life. It may not happen today or even next year, but with time the house will be paid off, the kids will be out of college and married and you have time and money to complete your project. Not everyone is sentimental about things like this and I understand that. But IMO you cannot put a price on sentimental value. Years from now you will not regret the decision.
      That is what I'm talking about. Beautiful car Steve!

    12. #12
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      Quote Originally Posted by TheJDMan View Post
      Here's my take. I purchased my 68 Camaro when I was 18, I'm now 58. I drove it on the street for three years then drag raced it for another 10 or so years. Once I got married I had no cash to race anymore and no money to put the car back on the street. Bottom line is that life took priority over the car. The result was the car has been stored in various garages for the past 30 odd years. As we have moved around the country for jobs the car has been moved along with us. I have had more offers to sell the car over the years than I can remember and I always turned them down flat knowing I would regret selling it as soon as it rolled out the drive. My wife used to pester me to sell it and after several years she realized I was not going to part with it and stopped bugging me. I'm now semi-retired, the house is paid for and I have spare money to play with. Now that life has slowed down a bit, I also have the time to work on the car.
      Great Story and the Camaro is awesome.

      I can relate. My first new car was a ’71 AMX I bought just over 40 years ago. By ’72 I ran the back roads in Florida with the local Corvette club, joined SCCA and tracked the car for the first time at Sebring in ‘72 long before the term Pro/Touring ever existed. Drove at Daytona, then Road America and finally Donnybrooke (now BIR). Back then I had upgraded sway bars and Gabriel Adjustable E’s at the time. Had 118,000 miles on it by ’78 and at 142,000 mile, received a valve job and new timing chain. Even went back to BIR in the early ‘90’s when the car was still stock restored and turned 150,000 miles at the track in turn one doing 120 MPH. In 1995 Doug Rippie Motorsports built a fresh AMC engine and in ’98 pulled the original engine out at 165,000. It currently has 178,000 miles on it and the rear axle and trans are still original. I won’t touch it till something breaks just to see how long it lasts. Only then will I take it to another level.

      It’s a rare car but it’s an AMC yet you CANNOT replace the memories that this car has given me over the course of 40 years. I will never sell it nor will I “Over Build” it where it can’t be restored easily. Think of it in terms of how many Camaros were built. For me, not easy to replace one of 745 for my year.

      Building a fairly common car with Blood, Sweat and Tears and owned less than 10 years is one thing, but any car with deep memories built over the course of multiple decades is a whole different ball game.

      The early days


      Road America 1972 (I'm in the pack somewhere)!


      Donnybrooke (BIR) Early ‘90’s in Turn One



      As it is today with more suspension upgrades, Wilwood 4 wheel discs, 16 inch Halibrand 5 spokes





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      With that much history, I think I would have to hold on to the car. I miss my 87 Camaro Sport Coupe quite often, but it wasn't my choice to sell it. I would get it rust free and in the dry and then work on getting it mobile, then you can upgrade over time.
      Stephen

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      I would keep it too. I look at it like this by the time you replace all the rot your will know your car is solid. If you sell it and then buy something else you don't know for sure the quality of work that was done, and other than paint you are still going to be at the same starting point. Meaning more than likely you are still going to want to redo the suspension and drive train, I would do it once and do it the way you want it done.
      Brad Shepard
      69 Malibu
      Marshall, MO

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      This is an easy one. I wouldn't take a million bucks for my car if someone offered. Waaay too many years and waaaay too much history.

      Gaetano Cosentino
      Dont Drive Faster Than Your Angels Can Fly

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      Quote Originally Posted by Gitter Dun View Post
      This is an easy one. I wouldn't take a million bucks for my car if someone offered. Waaay too many years and waaaay too much history.
      Buuuuulllllll ****
      Todd

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      Quote Originally Posted by Vegas69 View Post
      Buuuuulllllll ****
      That was a rhetorical statement not unlike when you say to a sibling "I'll kill you if you tell mom or dad". But you knew that!
      Steve Hayes
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      Steve, I happen to know Gaetano over a few beers and countless ribbing.
      Todd

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      Doah! Never mind.
      Steve Hayes
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      Quote Originally Posted by Vegas69 View Post
      Buuuuulllllll ****
      Tell ya what....I'll bet you a million I wont sell it for a million, LOL

      Gaetano Cosentino
      Dont Drive Faster Than Your Angels Can Fly

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