Bleeding Brakes Help.

[WICKED_SS]

I was looking into getting Motive Products (summit Part# mvp-0350) pump system or Phoenix systems (summit #psl-2003) Reverse Fluid Injection system.... Has anyone ever used one or the other and are they worth the money to insure all the air is out of the lines?

Thanks for the help!



-Brian

[dontlifttoshift]

I have the RFI thing....it makes a mess. You are trying to pump pressure in throught the bleeder screw, if the bleed is to far open it just pushes fluid around the threads, not open far enough and it pushes the hose off of the bleeder. If there was an adapter that made solid connections at all of those points I think it would work great.

An extra set of legs, a hose, and a jar has always works for me.....and only costs a buck and some beer.

[tlillard23]

how often are you going to bleed brakes? Beer is cheaper. or get some speed bleeders.

[uraceulose]

The motive vacuum one works GREAT. You just have to make sure the lid is completely and tightly sealed all the way around the top of the master reservoir.
Other than that you just pump the canister up to 15ish psi and go crack the rr bleeder til you get a half pint/pint of fluid and them just work your way one wheel at a time closer to the master ending at the LF wheel.

[TheJDMan]

I have both a Motive pressure bleeder and a Phoenix vacuum bleeder and I had to use both methods to completely bleed my brakes

[Vegas69]

Vacuum bleeders via an air compressor are the way to go. You can move a massive amount of fluid in no time at all.

[Pete68]

I have the Motive too and have used it on my Porsche and Camaro, and moms Accord. And a few friends cars too. I can highly recommend. You may need an adapter depending on the type of master cylinder you are running.

[MCB Matt]

Motive is a great tool for the $$$ i have used it and had no issues. Pressure bleeding is usually a nice simple and clean way to do it!

Matt

[ace_xp2]

I've used this method, found it to work quite well:
http://www.bmw-m.net/TechProc/bleeder.htm
I've even discovered that, at least my sprayer, has overpressure protection, so you don't have to worry about over pumping it.

[snappytravis]

I don't know if this will work for you or not but you could try it.I replaced mc and brake booster on my 67chevelle a few years ago and played hell trying to bleed the brakes had helper pump brakes, would not build pressure and pedal was way low. I tried the vacumn bleeder pulling fluid through the bleeder. I finally called mp brakes and the rep told me to gravity bleed them. So I started at the rt rear filled mc to the top and loosened bleeder then left it for about 5 or 10 min and watched fluid level until it was down about a1/4 inch then went to the rr,rf and of. I then got in and brakes were excellent. This worked great don't need a helper either.

[Quickboat]

Vacuum pump bleeding has always worked well for me. From the cheap hand pump vacuum bleeders, to the more expensive air pressure over a venturi models. All methods that dont replace the fluid require watching the fluid level.