Mini Tubs/rims tires and rear lengths.

[XLexusTech]

Hello: I have a 67 camaro that I am in the process of Mini tubbing.
I am tubbing for a few reasons but one of them is not to get 315's or 335 on it. Partially because I don't like those big lipped rims in the rear. I thought of doing the tubs and simply using a 295 or smaller tire. But the thought came to me how about a big tire without the big lipped rim..

So has anyone done a Mini tub car with lengthened axle tubes?
Just wondering how that would look.
I am after having symmetrical looking rim lips front to rear.

[Damn True]

This is perhaps the best thread I have seen on the topic. https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=46900

I share your sentiment about the deep offset wheels. As bitchin as Bad Penny is, I don't wish to have that much offset. Therefore, I elected to purchase a full width (60" I believe) axle housing with my Lateral Dynamics 3-Link. This, in concert with the DSE tubs I am currently installing, will allow me to have a large part of the "meat" of the rim/tire inboard of the wheel flange.

It should net a look that is not dissimilar to that of CarlC's car, but a good bit wider as he is running 275's on all four corners and I intend to go a bit wider in the back with a 315.

[ProdigyCustoms]

You can do a 8" backspace on a 12" rim and have the "stock look" of the outer wheel proofile without narrowning the rear. We are doing a car like that as we speak.

[Rybar]

Have you seen Andy's '67? It's mini tubbed with I think a standard length rear end. This is the look you are looking for correct:

https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=44489

https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=41710

[1969CamaroRS]

This is perhaps the best thread I have seen on the topic. https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=46900

Why thank you Glad I was able to contribute something back.

Therefore, I elected to purchase a full width (60" I believe) axle housing with my Lateral Dynamics 3-Link. This, in concert with the DSE tubs I am currently installing, will allow me to have a large part of the "meat" of the rim/tire inboard of the wheel flange.

You sound like you plan on doing exactly what I did. Standard width axle with mini-tubs. Looks like standard width tires in the rear from the side:


But when you get the rear or extreme front the width of the tires really pops out at you:


Really digging the look, very nice subtle effect.

[XLexusTech]

thanks guys. Rybar that is the look I am after in 17" wheels.
I will be getting my rear form Frank anyway so hes on the hook :-)
Hopefully someone will buy my 12 Bolt OE 373

[ProdigyCustoms]

That OE 3.73 is worth some money if it is a coded 3.73. Have you checked the numbers?

[Roger M]

Another good example is Charley's latest car, "Jackass". I believe it has 19x12 ZR1 wheels which have no lip at all.

[Damn True]

Have you seen Andy's '67? It's mini tubbed with I think a standard length rear end. This is the look you are looking for correct:

https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=44489

https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=41710

Wow, I don't recall seeing that car before. Really beautiful.

[Damn True]

Why thank you Glad I was able to contribute something back.



You sound like you plan on doing exactly what I did. Standard width axle with mini-tubs. Looks like standard width tires in the rear from the side:


But when you get the rear or extreme front the width of the tires really pops out at you:


Really digging the look, very nice subtle effect.

Another great looking car. I muuuuuuch prefer this look to the deep-dish thing. Fikse Profil's?

FWIW your thread is linked on Lateral-G.net, Corner-Carvers.com and Camaros.net in my build threads. You really did a great job on it which is why I haven't documented the tubs in my thread. Nothing to improve on.

[1969CamaroRS]

Fikse Profil's?

Actually Rushforth Strutters with their Titanium powder coated brushed centers.

FWIW your thread is linked on Lateral-G.net, Corner-Carvers.com and Camaros.net in my build threads. You really did a great job on it which is why I haven't documented the tubs in my thread. Nothing to improve on.

Wow thanks!

[Damn True]

Hmm, good looking wheel. Pricey?

[XLexusTech]

That OE 3.73 is worth some money if it is a coded 3.73. Have you checked the numbers?

I have and they are dead on for a 69 z28. I had it for sale last year but no takers, I just opened it up for sale again over at camaros.net

Ring gear =2 GM 3862525 11 41 11 68

Housing BU=3.73
12=Dec
03=3rd day
G=Gear Plant
1= first shift

[ProdigyCustoms]

A original BU coded rear needs to go on E bay. My friends that sell original parts are all raving about how much money original restoration parts are bringing. I would think you could get more then the new rear will cost.

[ProdigyCustoms]

Another good example is Charley's latest car, "Jackass". I believe it has 19x12 ZR1 wheels which have no lip at all.

Those wheels have a huge mounting pad on them to clear the big brakes, I have not measured a set but I bet they have 2 1/4" of caliper clearance where most "high clearance" wheels have about 1 3/4" caliper clearance. All this caliper clearance is built into the mounting pad, which pushes the center out towards the outside of the rim shell. I would guess, (only guessing) to get those ZR1 wheels to fit, even with the high pad, I bet they came in somewhere near 62" (2" wider then stock) to fit with no adapters.

If that is the look you want we can do all the math on that also and figure it out. I could call Mark or Charlie and see what they did to confirm.

[1969CamaroRS]

Hmm, good looking wheel. Pricey?

The rears were certainly a bit pricey but I don't there is such a thing as a cheap 17x12 wheel.

[XLexusTech]

A original BU coded rear needs to go on E bay. My friends that sell original parts are all raving about how much money original restoration parts are bringing. I would think you could get more then the new rear will cost.

I had it sold on ebay last year winning bit was 2K but they buyer dragged me along for awhile then flaked on me.

[Damn True]

The rears were certainly a bit pricey but I don't there is such a thing as a cheap 17x12 wheel.

Would you mind shooting me a PM with the hard numbers? I'm pretty well set on the minilite replica wheel but those look really good.

[Damn True]

I had it sold on ebay last year winning bit was 2K but they buyer dragged me along for awhile then flaked on me.

I've all but given up on the use of Ebay for that reason alone. Combine the problems that PayPal can cause with credit card accounts and it's just a show stopper for me. I've given away most of the old parts on my Camaro because it just wasn't worth it to deal with the hassle of selling.

[1969CamaroRS]

Would you mind shooting me a PM with the hard numbers? I'm pretty well set on the minilite replica wheel but those look really good.

Done.