Art Morrison rear clips

**tharber** · 06-28-2005

Hello to all,

I usually do more reading and learning from you guys than asking but I'm at a cross roads with my 69 Camaro.

I have talked with Don at A.M. about their new Max G chassis. I think it will be a great product but for my intended use, I think it will be drastic over kill.

My situation is this, I have a new one piece floor, trunk and rockers all tacked in place in the car. I have zero confidence in the rear frame rails staying straight and holding up due to rust. I will mini tub this car so part of the frame rails will go away any way. I'm looking for opinions on installing one of A.M. rear clips, be it a ladder bar set up, 4 bar or triangulated 4 bar. I would like to maintain as much of the factory floor look as possible....no pro street, tubbed out look.

I was ready to order DSE's rear kit but after looking at the A.M. stuff, I think this would solve most of my concerns.

My intended use will be strictly street use, there are no road race courses around central Florida, so handling will be important but not to the extent as most of you look for. My front end set up will consist of tubular arms and possibly a coil over conversion with all the usuall other upgrades.

Thanks for any input.

Tim

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**kamaroman68** · 06-28-2005

I too am looking to go this route although I plan on putting the entire Max G chassis under my 68 camaro. I would also like opinions from the experts on this board as to what to expect from this chassis over stock unibody. I will be ordering it with A.M.'s front suspension rather than the C5 front suspension. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Chris

**CraigMorrison** · 06-28-2005

Tim- I might be a little biased, but our trianglulated 4-bar works great for the application you want. Art's 55 has this suspension under it. He has pounded the car for 4000 miles and it works great!

Our IFS works very well. Again, its the suspension that we have on our GTSport chassis that is under the Tri5's. I just started building a 53 Stude for my wife and it will have our IFS up front and tri 4-bar in the rear.

Hope this helps. If either of you are ever up in the Pacific NW stop by the shop and go for a test ride in the 55 to see how this suspension feels.

**daryn67** · 06-28-2005

We may be starting a Max G chassis for a 1968 Camaro very soon. Waiting to work out the details with the customer now.

Daryn

**CraigMorrison** · 06-28-2005

We are just finishing up a 68 Max G IFS / tri 4-bar chassis right now! I'll take some pics for you. If you need anything else, please call & fire away!

**daryn67** · 06-28-2005

Craig

Look forward to the pics. i sent you an email with a couple questions. We will be in touch soon.

Daryn

**69speed** · 06-28-2005

I installed an AM 4-bar setup with QA1 coilovers in my 69 camaro. I am very happy with the results. I've put about 1000 miles on the car already (driving to and from the Pigeon Forge event) I still need to dial things in before autocrossing, I will go a little stiffer on my rear springs, but I am impressed with the results so far.

**CraigMorrison** · 06-28-2005

Hey! Thank you :icon996:

**tharber** · 06-28-2005

69...how did the setup tie into the stock trunk and floor pans? Were you able to create the mini tub effect?

Thanks for the reply's!

**TBART70** · 06-29-2005

I have installed the 4 bar in my 70 camaro so far so good, it will be a very long time before I drive it but the fit and engineering looks good, also built custom mini tubs using stock outers.

**CraigMorrison** · 06-29-2005

Originally Posted by daryn67

Craig

Look forward to the pics. i sent you an email with a couple questions. We will be in touch soon.

Daryn

Daryn- I took pics of the chassis today, but I left the camera at work

I'll post some pics as soon as I can!

**daryn67** · 06-30-2005

Thanks Craig, we are still trying to get past the Ford 9", but as far as i can tell, its going to happen.

Daryn

**kamaroman68** · 06-30-2005

Craig,

Looking to purchase a max g chassis for a 68 camaro from you on August 1st. I would appreciate any pictures you could post also. I spoke with I believe Don and he informed me that the chassis does not come with motor mounts attached to the frame. Is there an option to have them installed at your factory, set up for a Big block chevy? It will be ordered with your front suspension so as far as I know the engine does not need to be set back as with the c5 suspension. Thanks for the help. Chris

**tharber** · 06-30-2005

Craig....any pics of this clip installed?

Tim

**tharber** · 07-01-2005

WOW! Big Dave at A.M. faxed me a little drawing of the clip, if I read his notes correctly this will accomodate a 345/25/20 tire!

Tim

**jski67** · 07-01-2005

Hi Tim,

I was in a similar situation as you...the whole back end of the car was rusted out (originally from Ohio, like myself).

I replaced the frame rails with rails from S&W racecars. They fit the factory floor contour. The ones I ordered would work with leaf springs, but I ended up installing a triangulated 4 bar with qa1 coilovers. It's solid as a rock and I minitubbed it...in fact, I have room to spare.

The point of my post is that there are many options if you are willing to replace the frame rails. I would not consider what I did as expensive. And I certainly don't what to take anything away from the Art Morrison products... with their reputation I'm sure it is a quality solution. But once you open yourself up to essentially back halving your car...which is really what your talking about...there are a ton of options.

I'm in Tallahassee if you ever get up this way. Feel freeto contact me if you want to see some pics or have questions.

Jason
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**kamaroman68** · 07-03-2005

Craig any pics of the full max g chassis for the 68 camaro yet?

**CraigMorrison** · 07-03-2005

Here you go! 1st Gen frame.........

http://public.fotki.com/CraigMorriso...n_max_g_frame/

If you have any questions, let me know!

**kamaroman68** · 07-03-2005

Craig,

Is it possible to have engine mounts for a big block chevy and transmission mount for a turbo 400 installed from the factory or is this a definite do it at home type thing? The frame I order will have your suspension rather than the C5if this helps dimension wise. I will be placing an order for one of these frames in the beginning of August. Thanks Chris

**kamaroman68** · 07-05-2005

Craig,

Is it possible to have engine mounts for a big block chevy and transmission mount for a turbo 400 installed from the factory or is this a definite do it at home type thing? The frame I order will have your suspension rather than the C5if this helps dimension wise. I will be placing an order for one of these frames in the beginning of August. Thanks Chris

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