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    1. #1
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      Installing Tru Turn

      So I purchased the ridetech Tru Turn system and am trying to install myself. We will see how that goes. I recieved my parts from ridetech nicely wrapped. So I jacked the car up and got started. I was able to get the right side off last night, going to try and get the left Wednesday night. Plan is to get it put back together this weekend.

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      Take lots of ggod pictures Mike, I think alot of people will be interested in your instal. Looks like a really nice system.

      David

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    4. #4
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      looks good mike, can't wait to check out the new set up. Shop is always open for you.

      say.. nice garage but wheres the Trophy room?
      MrQuick ΜΟΛ'ΩΝ ΛΑΒ'Ε


    5. #5
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      Just out of curiosity... What uppers, lowers and coilovers are you running?

    6. #6
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      Thanks guys...I plan on trying to take as many pictures and detail as I can remember to.

      Going to try and get a few more things done tonight too. I have limited time to work on this.

      Darren, I am running DSE uppers and lowers, with QA1 single adjustable coil overs, and DSE sway bar.
      Mike

    7. #7
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      might be a stupid ? but is there anything that the tru turn wont work with? certain spindles or anything?

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      Quote Originally Posted by creekwood08 View Post
      might be a stupid ? but is there anything that the tru turn wont work with? certain spindles or anything?
      Oh, i'm sure there is. Might not work w/ DSE arms, sway bar and QA1's..... Looks like Mike is about to found out! I can't foresee any issues tho, the DSE uppers are designed to work w/ a tall spindle, so the ball joint angle should be ok.

      Mike, one thing to check during installation is turning radius. With the TruTurn the steering stop contacts the front side of the ball joint plate. If the DSE arm is shaped much differently than our arm some modifications may need to be made to either increase or decrease turning radius.

    9. #9
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      Didn't Work for me

      Well it didn't work for me. I am running a 383 SBC with hooker super comp headers. The relocated inner tie rods hit my header on the passenger side. I would have to reroute the header tubes in order to use this system. Not sure if other headers will work or not.

      ridetech has been great help in trying to figure out a solution.
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      Well... that sucks

    11. #11
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      Yep...saw those pics last week when Darren showed them to me. We discussed trying to replace the oem style inner tie rod end with a heim end. That would move the tie rod shaft forward a bit, but I don't know how much or what that might do to the bumpsteer numbers. That is why I havent pulled the trigger on that yet.
      There is always going to be some combination of components that will end up being incompatible. The variables of frame mounts, engine mounts, and header design can stack up to cause interference. We'll try to identify these cases and document then as they occur. If we can't accommodate some of these situations, at least we can make people aware so they can plan accordingly.
      Bret Voelkel
      Director of Innovation Fox Powered Vehicles Group
      Founder/ Former Owner
      RideTech/Air Ride Technologies, Inc.

      How do you spell Impossible?

    12. #12
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      Bret, any thought to selling the outer steering arms individually?

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      Quote Originally Posted by j-rho View Post
      Bret, any thought to selling the outer steering arms individually?
      Obviously we could, but I don't know that they would do any good without the rest of the system. In fact, without the rest of the system the bumpsteer issues might actually be worse. The only purpose would be wheel clearance. I hesitate to offer components that serve no prupose unless integrated into a complete system...
      Bret Voelkel
      Director of Innovation Fox Powered Vehicles Group
      Founder/ Former Owner
      RideTech/Air Ride Technologies, Inc.

      How do you spell Impossible?

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      Quote Originally Posted by bret View Post
      Obviously we could, but I don't know that they would do any good without the rest of the system. In fact, without the rest of the system the bumpsteer issues might actually be worse. The only purpose would be wheel clearance. I hesitate to offer components that serve no prupose unless integrated into a complete system...
      You know, it's just what I need to fix my problem, if you'd be willing to sell me one, I could test it out.
      Dan
      1968 Camaro v2
      LS6 :: Viper T56 :: C5 Brakes :: Hotchkis Suspension


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      Quote Originally Posted by j-rho View Post
      Bret, any thought to selling the outer steering arms individually?
      They look like A-body steering arms to me.

      http://www.speedwaymotors.com/1964-7...rms,25073.html

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      Quote Originally Posted by KQM052 View Post
      They look like A-body steering arms to me.

      http://www.speedwaymotors.com/1964-7...rms,25073.html
      Yes they appear to be but these cannot be used on a stock F body steering system without the other components. Just wanted to put that out there.

      Any news Mikey? Cut off wheel is warmed up.
      MrQuick ΜΟΛ'ΩΝ ΛΑΒ'Ε


    17. #17
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      Darren is looking into using a heim joint as the inside tie rod, which if we can bolt it to the draglink bracket, will buy me some room. Maybe dimple the headers a little, and grind the bolt head down a little, I think that will get me the room I need. Still checking, not giving up on it yet.
      Mike

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      Quote Originally Posted by mdprovee View Post
      Darren is looking into using a heim joint as the inside tie rod, which if we can bolt it to the draglink bracket, will buy me some room. Maybe dimple the headers a little, and grind the bolt head down a little, I think that will get me the room I need. Still checking, not giving up on it yet.
      Hi Mike, car is up on the rack and it looks like that is the best option, popped into my head as soon as I saw it. I will make a new shaft, add a heim and compare bump numbers before and after. I'll let Bret know as soon as I get them in. Ordered the parts last night so it maybe a week before I get it going?

      Im with Frankie, them headers suck. LOL
      MrQuick ΜΟΛ'ΩΝ ΛΑΒ'Ε


    19. #19
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      How much is the ackerman (SP?) going to change by moving the inner tie-rod forward? I would think not much just a thought.


      *EDIT* So I just ran some numbers in PT suspension analyzer and it look like moving the inner tie rod 1/2" forward does not change the Ackerman too much all in all.

      Chris

    20. #20
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      Well I have installed the kit....everything went together good. I am having my headers modified to clear the inner tie rod. You definately will need inner fender modifications to clear a 10" wheel like ridetech has said. Another thing I forgot about is springs. When you have a dropped spindle, consider your springs. I had to get spacers for the springs on my coil overs to get a acceptable ride height. Once it is all put back together I will report back.
      Mike

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